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Returned a PlayStation 5 controller and noticed it was stuck in waiting for return. I reach out to Amazon CA and they told me they require me to upload a gov ID to process the return. I go back in my return history and notice a few others stuck. What the hell Amazon? Asking for Gov ID when the return is already in your possession and blackmail withholding our money unless we give up our gov ID? That's a hell no. Automatic chargeback buddy.

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12-05-2023 at 09:39 PM.
12-05-2023 at 09:39 PM.
Because we noticed abnormal activity on your account, we need to verify your identity before we can consider your request for a refund or replacement. We may also request additional information before granting your request.

How will you verify my identity?
In order for us to verify your identity, upload a valid government-issued identity document on the secure customer portal. Note that the following link will expire after 6 days:
https://account-status.amazon.com...validation

All personal information that you provide will be handled in accordance with our Privacy Notice. To review our Privacy Notice, go to "Amazon and Your Personal Information":
https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/cu...YX26H3ZXJT

What happens when I submit my ID document?
We will review your order and your account and verify your identity through one our third-party service providers. Once you have submitted your information through the secure customer portal, it will take us 3 business days to determine an outcome. At that point, you can contact us to learn the outcome of the investigation.

What happens if I do not submit my ID document?
You may continue shopping on Amazon, but you will no longer be eligible for a refund on the order …. Also, you will not be able to investigate this order issue further.

Who can I contact if I need help with this issue?
You can contact us through your Amazon profile. To do so, go to "Amazon Customer Service":
https://www.amazon.com/contact-us

Account Specialist
https://www.amazon.com
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12-05-2023 at 10:07 PM.
12-05-2023 at 10:07 PM.
Quote from SKV4m :
Because we noticed abnormal activity on your account, we need to verify your identity before we can consider your request for a refund or replacement. We may also request additional information before granting your request.

How will you verify my identity?
In order for us to verify your identity, upload a valid government-issued identity document on the secure customer portal. Note that the following link will expire after 6 days:
https://account-status.amazon.com...validation [amazon.com]

All personal information that you provide will be handled in accordance with our Privacy Notice. To review our Privacy Notice, go to "Amazon and Your Personal Information":
https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/cu...YX26H3ZXJT [amazon.com]

What happens when I submit my ID document?
We will review your order and your account and verify your identity through one our third-party service providers. Once you have submitted your information through the secure customer portal, it will take us 3 business days to determine an outcome. At that point, you can contact us to learn the outcome of the investigation.

What happens if I do not submit my ID document?
You may continue shopping on Amazon, but you will no longer be eligible for a refund on the order …. Also, you will not be able to investigate this order issue further.

Who can I contact if I need help with this issue?
You can contact us through your Amazon profile. To do so, go to "Amazon Customer Service":
https://www.amazon.com/contact-us

Account Specialist
https://www.amazon.com
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Agree it's a shitty thing to do. You have the product, why ask now?
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12-06-2023 at 06:03 AM.
12-06-2023 at 06:03 AM.
My first question is, "What abnormal activities have you flagged my account for?"
This way you can know the underlying issue that got you in trouble. I know some things that have serial numbers (such as PS5) which are recorded on their end and if they do not match on a returned item, that's a no go.

I would be pissed. Let us know if they ban you for doing chargebacks. That is the way Amazon might retaliate. They are the 500 lb gorilla, and they do as they please. If banned, they can ban your IP. They are pretty good at keeping you out. It's not as simple as a new name, address, credit card, or email address. Ship-to addresses/contacts have been reported as being banned, ie family members.

You may not care at this point. I would applaud you for your principles.
Be aware a ban also means that if you have any Amazon gift card or promotional balance they will void it and not refund it. Not transferrable either.

I will follow this thread, and hope to see you post more information/updates.
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12-06-2023 at 12:38 PM.
12-06-2023 at 12:38 PM.
Here are a few reddit threads regarding this. So far no resolution. Some have submitted their IDs to be refunded after 3-5 days. Others are cancelling their accounts and eating the cost. Some recommend filing a complaint with the BBB (success varies). Saw a class action lawsuit - https://www.geekwire.com/2023/ama...-products/
BBB: https://www.bbb.org/file-a-complaint
Federal Trade Commission (FTC): https://www.ftc.gov/

Amazon Photo ID Biometric Information – Class Action Investigation [chimicles.com]
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Chimicles Schwartz Kriner & Donaldson-Smith is investigating a potential class action lawsuit related to reports that Amazon is requiring photo ID before receiving a refund for returned merchandise. An increasing number of Amazon shoppers have been receiving emails after initiating a return for merchandise requiring consumers to upload photos of valid photo identification to share with Amazon directly, such as a passport, state ID, or driver's license, in order to get a refund. If consumers choose not to upload their photo ID, they reportedly forfeit their right to receive a refund.

If you received an email from Amazon requesting a copy of your photo ID, or uploaded a copy of your photo ID to share with Amazon, please fill-out the form provided below.
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12-07-2023 at 07:15 AM.
12-07-2023 at 07:15 AM.
Many of those examples did have unusual activity, so there was some reason AMZ's system flagged them. Doesn't make it proper to require ID for all of the cases. We know the reason is they are concerned with return fraud. I agree that in some cases they are going too far.

You'll need to decide whether it is that important to get your refund through their method, or a chargeback risking a ban. Many are reporting on Reddit that filing with BBB is useless.

This may indeed develop into a class action, as lawyers are trying to get more data per your link. I have no idea the amount (if any) it would garner for damages with no proof of related identity theft issues. That might get you another 2-year subscription to an identity monitoring service.

You'll have to decide if the battle (ie chargeback) is worth the risk of letting go of Amazon in your life. Once banned, hard to get back in.

I'm the kind of guy who fights over principles. I sometimes will spend much more time and effort than the goal of being made whole.

But for this situation, I would likely be a sheep. I have too much invested in the Amazon Ecosystem.
Please keep us updated.

I wonder that if a class action case is won, there would be any advantage for anyone involved to file with an attorney's office. Amazon or the attorney filing the suit should be required to notify members who were required to submit ID for returns. I often get postcards for class actions this way.
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12-08-2023 at 07:47 PM.
12-08-2023 at 07:47 PM.
That's because you return too many items or may be you might retuned a empty box.
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12-10-2023 at 11:07 AM.
12-10-2023 at 11:07 AM.
Quote from warmail :
That's because you return too many items or may be you might retuned a empty box.

No it isn't. Just happened to me and I have had 2 returns out of 100 orders.
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12-30-2023 at 01:30 AM.
12-30-2023 at 01:30 AM.
I resolved this. Still purchasing and returning.

Immediate charge back. Do not give them your id. Don't waste your time with CS. Amazon will close the dispute in your favor after you email them saying that the return was received but never refunded. https://imgur.com/a/Dy3EeHN

Before filing a dispute check your cc statements to verify your refund was credited. I had a few returns that were stuck in processing state but were indeed refunded.
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12-30-2023 at 06:27 AM.
12-30-2023 at 06:27 AM.
Quote from SKV4m :
I resolved this. Still purchasing and returning.

Immediate charge back. Do not give them your id. Don't waste your time with CS. Amazon will close the dispute in your favor after you email them saying that the return was received but never refunded. https://imgur.com/a/Dy3EeHN

Before filing a dispute check your cc statements to verify your refund was credited. I had a few returns that were stuck in processing state but were indeed refunded.
For clarification, It looks like you were notified with an email. I would not want to have to find this out on my own without being notified.

I have always trusted them for refunds because I have gotten emails from them saying refunds are being granted as soon as the item is scanned in at the place I drop them off.

They have a tab for "Orders and Returns", but they do not separate them at all. I do not care for that policy.

"You can stay on top of your returns by tracking them in Your Orders."
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12-30-2023 at 08:45 AM.
12-30-2023 at 08:45 AM.
Quote from c2nah777 :
For clarification, It looks like you were notified with an email. I would not want to have to find this out on my own without being notified.

I have always trusted them for refunds because I have gotten emails from them saying refunds are being granted as soon as the item is scanned in at the place I drop them off.

They have a tab for "Orders and Returns", but they do not separate them at all. I do not care for that policy.

"You can stay on top of your returns by tracking them in Your Orders."

I was only asked for ID after contacting CS. Never before initiating the return.
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12-30-2023 at 10:08 AM.
12-30-2023 at 10:08 AM.
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I was only asked for ID after contacting CS. Never before initiating the return.
Sorry, that is confusing. They could not ask for ID before you even initiated a return because there was nothing to discuss until you did that. You probably meant no contact from them after you dropped the item off?

I think you are saying the following steps is how it happened:
You initiated a return.
Printed the label and/or dropped off the item.
You never received any email about the refund being given. So you were concerned.
You contacted CS.
They advised you of the requirement for ID.

If that's the case I don't see how they could legally put a hold on your refund without any communication of it being on hold. That is terrible!
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12-30-2023 at 03:40 PM.
12-30-2023 at 03:40 PM.
Quote from c2nah777 :
Sorry, that is confusing. They could not ask for ID before you even initiated a return because there was nothing to discuss until you did that. You probably meant no contact from them after you dropped the item off?

I think you are saying the following steps is how it happened:
You initiated a return.
Printed the label and/or dropped off the item.
You never received any email about the refund being given. So you were concerned.
You contacted CS.
They advised you of the requirement for ID.

If that's the case I don't see how they could legally put a hold on your refund without any communication of it being on hold. That is terrible!

Hey sorry for the confusion articulation is not my strong suit.

You're totally correct. The item was returned and it wasn't until I contacted Amazon that I was told that an ID was required to process the return even though it was marked as received and processing.
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12-30-2023 at 03:46 PM.
12-30-2023 at 03:46 PM.
Quote from SKV4m :
Hey sorry for the confusion articulation is not my strong suit.

You're totally correct. The item was returned and it wasn't until I contacted Amazon that I was told that an ID was required to process the return even though it was marked as received and processing.
This is a blatant abuse of members' trust. There should be a class action about this. I bet it happens, and soon. We have no easy way of even finding out if it has happened without researching complete purchase feeds. The least they need to do is add a separate "Returns" section for simple followup. Still not enough, but a start.
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