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JBL Home Speakers: Center Channel (HDI-4500) $700, Bookshelf (HDI-1600)

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Buyers should be aware that the JBL specs on this series of products are marketing driven at +/-6dB which is a much larger tolerance than other manufacturers that report "Flat" specs as +/3dB.
These are arguably closer to being the next gen of the old studio 5xx series that were very popular here at sale prices. Much nicer to look at, better center channel, addressing most of the weak points in that lineup but with a huge price increase made even more painful by how much the 5xx kits were discounted.

These prices on the towers make them worth considering, but they're still awfully expensive vs. the deals we got on the 5xx series offerings. And once you start talking about ~$2500 for front lcr… there's a ton of great options.

Don't get me wrong… these are GREAT prices on these, but they don't stand out vs. the competition, the sale prices just make them competitive vs. overpriced imho. Still a great find and a very nice deal.
I ordered these (HDI-3800s). Despite saying they hadn't shipped yet, I received them today. Coming from the JBL 580 Studio speakers, I was hoping they'd be an improvement. Even with a great deal, they were 3x the price I paid for the studios, so they had better be an improvement. They certainly are. These are next level. I'm powering them with my exact same setup, a Marantz SR5012 receiver and that's it. I really liked the 580s, but these are so much better in a way I can't describe, they just fill my room better. I find myself listening to stupid jazz (and I hate jazz) but these just sound so good with them. My next step is to get a dedicated amp to get these powered in the 200w-300w range which my Marantz can't currently do. Spending 2K on speakers is a decent amount of $$$ for me, but so far it's been totally worth it.

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Feb 25, 2024
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Jerky_san
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Quote from DjScibbity :
Im running the HDI-3800s with a PSA TV1813 in a fairly large room. Been happy with them. Others in this price (when on sale) would include the new Martin Logan offerings, Polk R700 (though theyre uglier and vinyl wrapped), maybe some lower end Dali's, Wharfdale (lintons are supposed to be good, but not my styling and also not great for movies).
It kinda depends on your wants/needs (do you prefer music, movies, both, what is room size, etc. Its a magical time to buy speakers...theres a LOT of good stuff out there and competition brings down pricing. Check out Arendal THX series as well...I almost bought those.
Interesting thank you for your reply. These things look really beautiful especially the walnut. I really am thinking of getting them but I'll look at these other brands as well before I do. This audio stuff is a whole new world and it's insane how much data there is to sift through.
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Quote from JeffJ9000 :
Overinflated initial price and then steep drop does not a slick deal make. How this compares to similarly priced speakers is what counts.
Paradigm, Triangle and Elac all make bookshelf speakers in this range. Depending on your room, music vs home theater usage and voicing preferences, those offer great value, especially if you buy used. Even the rp600m Klipsch originals are now at $280/pair! Excellent value.
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Quote from dj_jonnyv :
Well, crap, Mrs. Ok'd them but black colorway only. Would need 3800s, 4500 & 1600s and half that is oos in black. Would've been stepping up from 5 series. Great deal on these.
I had the Studio 580s and replaced them with the HDI-3600s. Big improvement. Airier, more definition, tighter bass.
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Have a one-item one-time use coupon. If you buying 3600 or higher and willing to exchange with Amazon GC, please DM.
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Fallout4
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Quote from Jerky_san :
Could you cite some good comparable speakers so I could keep an eye out. I'm looking at upgrading my crap Klipsch in my 5.1.2. I have a PSA 18" sub now and looking at doing the speakers next
For the sub I would recommend the HSU ULS-15 MK2 Subwoofer. I have it and it's great. The people who read numbers only will tell you that it doesn't go as low as some others and may poo-poo it. In a decent size room it will be flat to 20Hz and the base output in general is tight and can shake the room. It's a sealed enclosure and small compared to a ported sub.
Read the reviews...
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Quote from wills916 :
How do these 3600's compare to the A180s I got on another sd? 😆
You would be amazed at how much better things can sound. Remember, if you do buy them that there is a break-in period.
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Quote from ROOSKIE :
Several of these have been measured in full by Erin's and ASR's Klippel NFS.
No need to wonder.
Superb speakers, though overpriced at full $ like most hifi. For these prices all is good.
If you had to choose between JBL HDI-1600 and Revel M16 what would it be?

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Quote from Jerky_san :
Interesting thank you for your reply. These things look really beautiful especially the walnut. I really am thinking of getting them but I'll look at these other brands as well before I do. This audio stuff is a whole new world and it's insane how much data there is to sift through.
If you are very new, make sure to account for an amp. These speaker are not self powered.
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Biggest obstacle after owning 590s (similar to size of the 3800's) is they are hard to move and sell. Seems as if there are not too many of us out there into large nice speakers anymore IMO. Loved my 590s.
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Quote from zevonangel :
What does that mean for someone who is somewhat new to home audio?
Nothing, he posts the same thing in every jbl thread as if it is a huge red flag.

There's independent measurement data out there for almost everything now if that's your thing, and jbl as a whole provides more transparent measurement data than most. A little bit of research is easy for most jbl or harman products.

Having said that there's a ton of competition in this price range. There's probably twenty different options in this price range that are all going to be solid, all with little give and take differences.
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been considering the bookshelf as i want to downsize from the Studio 580 towers. I have a JBL sub now. thoughts?
Last edited by Handofam February 25, 2024 at 02:12 AM.
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Quote from JohnC30 :
If you had to choose between JBL HDI-1600 and Revel M16 what would it be?
If they are priced the same, maybe a slight edge to the Revels. They're close Id say though. If the JBLs are cheaper, I'd go with them.

Also depends on what you are driving them with and what you plan to use them for. If you listen loud and to both movies & music or drive them with an AVR, the JBLs would probably be the better choice. if you are using separate amplification and purely listen to music and at lower volumes, the Revels may offer a slight advantage.
Last edited by DjScibbity February 25, 2024 at 05:36 AM.
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ROOSKIE
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Quote from JohnC30 :
If you had to choose between JBL HDI-1600 and Revel M16 what would it be?
Based on my expereinces, uasage habits and personal taste I would take the HDI-1600. I've not heard them but I have heard the Revel M16 alot.
I prefer my JBL 4309 to the Revel M16. (The M16 is very good, it has a bit darker toanlity and is not as 'resolving' in the midrage or bass vs the 4309. The 4309 can also pay quite loudly if needed).In theory the HDI-1600 is possibly better in some ways, @least they measure better.

The HDI-1600 should be viable against the M106 and M126be.
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Quote from JeffJ9000 :
Paradigm, Triangle and Elac all make bookshelf speakers in this range. Depending on your room, music vs home theater usage and voicing preferences, those offer great value, especially if you buy used. Even the rp600m Klipsch originals are now at $280/pair! Excellent value.
All of these companies also sell very 'over inflated products'. This is the norm. Much of hifi is now 'luxury items' like watches and handbags and $200 steaks.

Plus, ss price goes up the sales reach goes down to a select few buyers and thus the price actually needs to be even higher to compensate for low volumes.

These HDI speakers are being sold at a very competative price here given what they are intended to be.

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Quote from phred_t :
Fair amount of distortion on the bookshelves at 1.9khz, an important frequency area. Shame.
Howdy harmonic distortion is tricky because it need to be very high to be audible and even then it is masked easily by the content. I do not consider what this speaker presents as any issue at all.
HD or harmonic distortion doesn't really tell much about a speaker. You don't want it to be really high or orders above 2 or 3.
Remeber, harmonic distortion is in harmony with the original note, that makes it hard to hear in real content. Non-harmonic types of distortion is very hard to measure but much much more audible.
Erin does try to get the gist of this with his 'multitone distortion' but even that is not quite enough.

1st look at how low the 3rd order and higher distortion is. Insainly low. These are the harmonics I want to keep down.
That is 2nd order harmic distortion, (which many actually find very pleasing or 'euphonic' but that is for another convo, many also like some 3rd as it tends to add a slight 'edge' that some prefer)
Here it is at 2,000hrz, in a narrow band.
It is 2% at 96db at 1meter.
That means at 96db/1meter when a 2000hrz note plays it will also add some coloration in the form of extra 4000hrz energy that added energy is -34db below the nominal output level and mixed in with whatever is happening at 4000hrz.
You will never, ever hear it. Ever.
(well actually with pure isolated test tones you would hear it. If I played 2000hrz at 80db you would also get added 4000hrz at 46db. 46db will sound about 28% as loud as 80db in the midrange. It will sound like a quiet second source in harmony with the 1st. Just like people singing in harmony except in this case one is very quiet and only at a norrow frequency region. Anyway with content, hearing = nope.)

Ideally it would not be there. But there are many trade offs involved in design.
My guess is it is from the waveguide. (It could also be some slight leftover breakup from the woofer.) One down side of waveguides is they seem to add some 2nd order harmonics from time to time. Almost all large waveguides do this. Also compression driver designs often have elevated levels of HD2. Much much higher that what is here.
This is a good level of execution here.
Last edited by ROOSKIE February 25, 2024 at 09:31 AM.
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