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frontpage Posted by SehoneyDP • Mar 29, 2024
frontpage Posted by SehoneyDP • Mar 29, 2024

12,000 BTU Midea Duo 3-in-1 Inverter Portable Air Conditioner w/ MShield

(Costco Members) + Free Shipping

$450

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Costco Wholesale has for Members: Midea Duo 12,000 BTU DOE 3-in-1 Inverter Portable Air Conditioner w/ MShield Air Ionizer Technology (MAP14AS1TWT-C) for $449.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Deal Hunter SehoneyDP for posting this deal.

Features:
  • 12,000 BTU DOE: 3-in-1 Comfort Cools, Ventilates, and Dehumidifies
  • Inverter Technology Delivers up to 40% Energy Savings Compared to US Federal Standard
  • Matter Certified Unit with App & Voice Control: Control From Anywhere with the Smart Home App
  • 2X Stronger, 2X Faster vs Single Hose Portable ACs, with 25ft Long Distance Airflow
  • MShield Air Ionizer Technology: Reduces Odors, Smoke, and Gases in the Air

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Costco Wholesale has for Members: Midea Duo 12,000 BTU DOE 3-in-1 Inverter Portable Air Conditioner w/ MShield Air Ionizer Technology (MAP14AS1TWT-C) for $449.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Deal Hunter SehoneyDP for posting this deal.

Features:
  • 12,000 BTU DOE: 3-in-1 Comfort Cools, Ventilates, and Dehumidifies
  • Inverter Technology Delivers up to 40% Energy Savings Compared to US Federal Standard
  • Matter Certified Unit with App & Voice Control: Control From Anywhere with the Smart Home App
  • 2X Stronger, 2X Faster vs Single Hose Portable ACs, with 25ft Long Distance Airflow
  • MShield Air Ionizer Technology: Reduces Odors, Smoke, and Gases in the Air

Editor's Notes

  • About this deal:
    • Please see the original post for additional details & give the WIKI and additional forum comments a read for helpful discussion.
  • About this store:
    • Details of Costco's return policy here.

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This heat pump version of this unit does have limits on heating, but works fine for most, as long as not too cold outside.

HOWEVER - it has a known flaw. When it gets cold outside, like 40 degrees or cooler, the heat will not turn on. The fix is you have to relocate the intake temp sensor,to inside your house - then it'll work fine. This is detailed on a few Reddit posts, and is an easy modification to make.

Overall, love these untis, but they will go on sale for $300 for the heat-pump ones if patient - have a few Toshiba ones (rebranded Midea's) myself and they are great!
The Danby version of this dual hose is on sale today. Item 1691101 Model DPA100B9IWDB-6. It's $299.99 now, sale ends today. Danby warranty 2 yrs vs Midea 1 yr.
I posted this deal last time and got it. I haven't used it so can't tell you how it is compared to the midea. I have the midea with heat and it's great so far.

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i3ighead
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Quote from WooHoo2You :
It's not a "flaw"...it is how heat pumps work. They pump heat (in your example) from outside to inside. Very cold means = no mucho heat to pump.

Some modern inverter compressors WITH inverter fans do a much better job verses your normal 100% on or completely off compressor or budget inverter unit with just an inverter compressor but they still hit a wall where they cannot 'recover' enough heat. Darn flawed physics Wink

You are also risking damaging the unit doing that or at least turning it into a block of ice. There is a reason the unit was set to lock out at a certain temp (also controls defrost as well). But that limit might be too conservative for certain applications. If your climate is on the borderline it might be fine. Just don't pitch a fit when the unit dies after 1-2 winters.
I thought they gimped it on purpose so they could advertise a better looking SEER rating on the box?
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SeriousHorn337
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Quote from i3ighead :
I thought they gimped it on purpose so they could advertise a better looking SEER rating on the box?
You are correct. The post you quoted is wrong. It defrosts, it's a seer issue. It'll heat down to 10-15 no issue.
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Quote from i3ighead :
I thought they gimped it on purpose so they could advertise a better looking SEER rating on the box?
That is possible as well. But it wouldn't just be for the "rating" but the overall efficiency that SEER is (in theory) supposed to represent.

By tricking the unit to run endlessly at times it will have no hopes in actually recovering enough heat to ever satisfy the thermostat, you are also dragging down the average efficiency of the unit. That could (and probably will) cause lower efficiency AKA HIGHER POWER USE (even at warmer temps) because the unit is getting false readings on ambient temperatures and could cause extra wear and possible damage to the unit when it is running below rated temps. The entire point of an inverter unit is the compressor is scaled EXACTLY with current conditions...conditions that are now incorrect because of your trinkering.

An analogy would be relocating your car's intake air temp sensor.
Quote from SeriousHorn337 :
You are correct. The post you quoted is wrong. It defrosts, it's a seer issue. It'll heat down to 10-15 no issue.
You are right, sensors used for, low temp lock outs, defrost sensors, etc are all "sEeR iSsUeS." Don't worry that all heat pumps have those sensors even in countries that do not have minimum efficiency standards nor are they required to protect the unt. Nah, don't worry about.

This is what a bad / missing / relocated sensor looks like. (other problems can also manifest themselves similarly though)
https://www.galmicheandsons.com/h...ozen-2.jpg

"SEER issue"....LOL. Yeah, liquid refrigerant entering the compressor is just a "SEER issue."

BTW, I work in HVAC...what do you do? Other than give bad DIY advice gleaned from Reddit. shake head
Last edited by WooHoo2You April 1, 2024 at 07:01 AM.
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ezbeazy
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Quote from i3ighead :
Like other user said. Have to open and relocate the thermometer. Not too difficult. Just have to do some testing. Was able to keep room warm (74F) at around 15F last winter with no issues.

Reddit easiest for instructions?
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MyBallsItch
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Quote from Samysen :
I'm waiting to see a dedicated mobile AC that works directly of the solar panel. Yes, I know and we don't have the efficiency to run it yet but I trust in newer pannel and saving systems, then low energy compressor of other cooling systems!
Ecoflow wave 2, but it's expensive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NBfhABwn18

"we don't have the efficiency to run it yet"
False, many people run mini splits on solar, a little thing like that 5kw is even easier. Cooling is easy on solar since much of the time when you need cooling you have good sun, heating is harder because that's often in a time of year with little to no sun.

There are also mini splits designed to connect directly to solar to offset their power use,
https://signaturesolar.com/eg4-hy...tallation/

Sometimes it's just cheaper to use a normal mini split and connect that to a solar battery setup and seperate solar inverter.
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Got this delivered and was able to test it out for a few days. Initial impressions is that it cools really well and super fast! Brought down my room at 83 Fahrenheit to 72 degrees in under 20 minutes. It's quieter than my Black & Decker 8000 BTU single hose unit I have previously, but it's still somewhat loud. On the loudest at max I got around 63db right up close to the AC and about 58db 4 feet away. I think the lowest advertised of 42.5db is only with the fan running on low and the AC off. Once the room cools down it does shut off the AC on its own and just circulates the air with the fan and ramps back up if the room heats up. The air ionizer seems to help? My cat used the litter box and didn't cover her poop so it stunk the room. I turned on the air ionizer and it did smell significantly less within 5 minutes. I don't know if that's just the scent having been dispersed though.
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acharn
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Had this for about six months and the blower died. Thankfully it was Costco so I returned it.

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Quote from MrPoopyButthole3 :
I bought this unit last year and it stopped working after a few months. Luckily it was from Costco so the return was easy, but still.
I bought mine last year to supplement my central air that was on its last legs and couldn't keep up with the insane hot summer we had in South Florida. Luck of the draw, my unit lasted ten days before the motor blew. It was out of stock at Costco. Midea said they did not have any replacements in the US and asked me to return it to Costco. It left me with a sour taste in my mouth that the unit was treated like other disposable electronics.
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Quote from midnightraver :
I bought mine last year to supplement my central air that was on its last legs and couldn't keep up with the insane hot summer we had in South Florida. Luck of the draw, my unit lasted ten days before the motor blew. It was out of stock at Costco. Midea said they did not have any replacements in the US and asked me to return it to Costco. It left me with a sour taste in my mouth that the unit was treated like other disposable electronics.
Quote from acharn :
Had this for about six months and the blower died. Thankfully it was Costco so I returned it.
did you guys get an error code EH 03 for the motor failure?
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acharn
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Quote from crazyking :
did you guys get an error code EH 03 for the motor failure?
Yes, that's what I got. It would come on for a minute then shut off with that code.
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starky87
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warranty is 1 year...
Last edited by starky87 April 9, 2024 at 08:20 PM.
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lowballer
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Quote from mr.dude :
Midea also has a windows mounted version of this heat pump, able to do both cooling and heating. Does anyone have both and can make a comparison? It's also 12000btu, I believe the windows mount version might be quieter at least?
I have both. The window units are indeed quieter. I've run both of them for two years and each has their benefits. Both work pretty well until ambient temps are around 37 degrees. The internal thermostat always reports slightly higher ambient temp than actual. For cooling they are great and very efficient. Overall I like like both units.
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onceuponadeal1
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I got EH 03 as well during the weekend, I purchased last year from Costco, it was good until it breaks down.
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Quote from DinnoM :
The Danby version of this dual hose is on sale today. Item 1691101 Model DPA100B9IWDB-6. It's $299.99 now, sale ends today. Danby warranty 2 yrs vs Midea 1 yr.
I posted this deal last time and got it. I haven't used it so can't tell you how it is compared to the midea. I have the midea with heat and it's great so far.
I see it as $449.99. :-(
https://www.costco.com/danby-10%2...93466.html

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NotMyCupOfTea
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Quote from killjoy1970 :
When they remember how to make the hoses separate, I'll consider it. Unnecessarily thermally inefficient "blended" hoses design actually prevents the common optional upgrade of easily insulating the hot exhaust pipe. (by simply sleeving 6" flexible insulted ducting over it)
So they upgraded efficiency with the inverter technology, and downgraded efficiency with the counterproductive "two pipes in one" technology.
I have an inverter type with 2 separate hoses. I do like the added quietness compared to non-inverter units. It spends a lot of time NOT running full blast, which is a real break my ears appreciate.

...BTW, I'm not recommending this pricey Hisense unit but here's at least an example of a "fully separated" dual hose inverter-equipped unit. https://www.lowes.com/pd/Hisense-...5005522217

Hmm I actually have the 8,000 btu of this and was thinking of getting the midea

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