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expired Posted by tDames | Staff • Nov 7, 2024
Nov 7, 2024 8:07 PM
Select Micro Center: Ryzen 7 9800X3D + ASUS B650-E TUF MB + 32GB G.Skill RAM
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but its within ~3% difference on that ram. you wont even miss it with that blazing fast cpu. especially since they are sold out often of the cpu.
if this is your only opportunity to get it, definitely get it for the cpu alone, and eat the 3%.
Also you can manually oc the ram to cl30 but it will take 30mins-1hour to figure out the sub timings and voltage.
Btw if you get this processor, it can be way more than 3% better in gaming than every single other processor on the market today. Some benchmarks go up to almost 30% under certain resolutions, with certain settings, in certain games.
LTTs review compared CP2077 for example on this and found even at 1080p when you max settings you're only seeing maybe a 2% improvement going 7800X3D to 9800X3D, less than 1% by 1440p/max (even the 5800X3D is less than 1% slower here than the 9800X3D), and by 4k scores are basically identical. And they tested several other games this way and saw even less difference at the ultra settings across resolutions.... and I don't imagine there's a LOT of folks who buy a top-tier gaming CPU then run 1080p low?
The 9800X3D does beat the 7800X3D in productivity testing by a decent bit-- but if that's your primary use case the 9700X beats both in most testing (let alone the higher core/speed 9xxx chips).... Still, if you're primarily a gamer but ALSO do a decent amount of cpu-heavy productivity stuff, the upgrade is probably worth it.... purely for gaming though, not so much.... It's possible the gaming benefits will be more apparent in gaming with say a future 5090 or something, but no way to quantify that now.
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Get this if you want the best.
If you want general upgrade then 5700x3d
I have a couple questions if you don't mind. I'm building a new gaming pc for someone as an Xmas gift. I know I'm going with the new 9800x3d cpu. I realize the RAM in the msi x670E bundle isn't ideal so I'm hesitant on buying but I don't want to wait too long either if it's a decent deal. I also read in this thread that for this cpu I should look at a 870e based MB. Is that true? What's the advantage of that mobo vs x670E?
I think I have 3 choices right now:
Would I be better off buying just the cpu at full msrp $479 and finding my own mobo/ram?
Or would the msi x670E bindle @ $729 be a much better choice as it stands?
Or should I do the x670E bundle and sell the ram/buy better ram?
Thanks
I'm still on a 5700x, and I'm probably just going to eventually sidegrade into a 5700x3d and ride out AM4 until AM6.
In any case, I wouldn't buy this bundle unless I had been specifically planning to do a new build around the 9800x3d, and simply didn't want to wait any longer. The 7800x3d bundles dropped to below $500 for quite a long time at MC last year, and there's no reason to think the 9800x3d bundles won't also drop over time.
For that matter, there might end up being some really attractive zen4 bundles, as they continue clearing out stock. Newegg had a pretty similar bundle a few days back with a 7600, and it even included a 1tb SSD, for like $330. I'd do that over this, and then just upgrade to the 9800x3d or something else in a year or so, when the price has fallen even lower.
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The X in front is for more PCI-E lanes 44 vs 36 (B). This equates to more USB ports and more lanes for PCI-E and SATA.
The only thing 800 offers over the 600 is USB 4.0 and WIFI 7. Note the E rules for 600 does not apply to 800. As both X870 and X870E both have PCI-E 5.0 The difference comes down to just more PCI-E Lanes. B850 and B840 are not out yet, but are going to be lower end boards.
In terms of performance, you will not get much difference out of the CPU especially if you are not overclocking. So a reliable brand for the right price will work just fine if you don't need the extra features I mentioned above. Note that no GPU use PCI-E 5.0 yet. That will change in future gens but you should consider when you will upgrade your GPU and maybe you'll get a new pc by that time again anyways.
That is just the general info, you can definitely get into more details of why 1 board is better compared to another, even when using the same chipset. If you need a recommendation, from my research, the ASROCK B650 Steel Legend was the most recommended because this board actually offers PCI-E 5.0 even though it is NOT an E board. It's hard to find and always sold out though, but Amazon ($180) has backorder if you want it.
I did dig in a little more. I found this article helpful for comparing the different AM5 chipsets: https://www.pugetsystem
After understanding the differences between chipsets, and a couple hours of googling and reading forums, I pulled the trigger on the MSI 670E Tomahawk bundle at MC (https://www.microcenter
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