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frontpage Posted by Suryasis • Nov 24, 2024
frontpage Posted by Suryasis • Nov 24, 2024

AtomMan G7 Ti Barebone Desktop: i9-14900HX, RTX 4070

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Minisforum has select AtomMan G7 Ti Barebone Desktops for the prices listed after applying code BF120 at checkout. Shipping is free.

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Available:Spec (G7 Ti):
  • Core i9-14900HX (8P+16E)/32T 1.6 GHz (5.8 GHz Turbo, 36MB L3 Cache) for G7 Ti
  • RTX 4070 8GB GDDR6 Graphics, 140W TGP
  • 2x 4400 RPM Fan + 5 Set Heat pipes
  • 2x DDR5 Slot (Up to 5600 MT/s, 96GB)
  • 2x M.2 2280 PCIe Gen 4.0 Slot
  • 1x M.2 2230 Slot For Wi-Fi (Populated)
  • Intel BE200 Wi-Fi 7 + Bluetooth 5.4
  • Ports:
    • 2x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-A 10 Gbps
    • 2x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A 5 Gbps
    • 1x USB4 Type-C 40 Gbps, Alt DP 1.4
    • 1x HDMI 2.1 (8K@60Hz, 4K@120Hz)
    • 1x SD Card Reader
    • 1x Audio Combo Jack
    • 1x 2.5 Gbps RJ-45
    • 1x DC 19V Power Port
    • 1x Power profile Switch Button
    • 1x Power Button
    • DC 19V 280W Power Adapter

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Minisforum has select AtomMan G7 Ti Barebone Desktops for the prices listed after applying code BF120 at checkout. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member Suryasis for finding this deal.

Available:Spec (G7 Ti):
  • Core i9-14900HX (8P+16E)/32T 1.6 GHz (5.8 GHz Turbo, 36MB L3 Cache) for G7 Ti
  • RTX 4070 8GB GDDR6 Graphics, 140W TGP
  • 2x 4400 RPM Fan + 5 Set Heat pipes
  • 2x DDR5 Slot (Up to 5600 MT/s, 96GB)
  • 2x M.2 2280 PCIe Gen 4.0 Slot
  • 1x M.2 2230 Slot For Wi-Fi (Populated)
  • Intel BE200 Wi-Fi 7 + Bluetooth 5.4
  • Ports:
    • 2x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-A 10 Gbps
    • 2x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A 5 Gbps
    • 1x USB4 Type-C 40 Gbps, Alt DP 1.4
    • 1x HDMI 2.1 (8K@60Hz, 4K@120Hz)
    • 1x SD Card Reader
    • 1x Audio Combo Jack
    • 1x 2.5 Gbps RJ-45
    • 1x DC 19V Power Port
    • 1x Power profile Switch Button
    • 1x Power Button
    • DC 19V 280W Power Adapter

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I have checked lots of reviews on this and wanted to share two main advantages of this over other equivalent Mini Gaming PCs like Asus NUC with Core Ultra 7/9 and and RTX 4070

The Cooling is way way better on this one. Despite having 24 Core i9-14900HX CPU, in CodeBench R24 all core load, it runs significantly cooler than Core Ultra 9-185H in Asus NUC. The temps never went over 90 degree C and the average was just around 80-82 degree C.
Unlike other RTX 4070 Laptop GPUs which can max reach up to 110W in 99% cases, this device can actually push it to 125W (Default TDP of RTX 4070 laptop) almost all the time and even near to 140 Watt in highly GPU dependent games, like in Cyberpunk.
Against this configuration, Mac Mini with M4 chip + 24GB Ram + 512GB SSD model has advantage in only efficiency. You need at least m4 Pro to even come close to the performance and that will cost you more with similar Ram and storage.
"pay the price of a similarly specd laptop for an off brand laptop without screen, speakers, ram, battery and ssd".

While I love minipcs, these prices are a joke.

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I have checked lots of reviews on this and wanted to share two main advantages of this over other equivalent Mini Gaming PCs like Asus NUC with Core Ultra 7/9 and and RTX 4070
  1. The Cooling is way way better on this one. Despite having 24 Core i9-14900HX CPU, in CodeBench R24 all core load, it runs significantly cooler than Core Ultra 9-185H in Asus NUC. The temps never went over 90 degree C and the average was just around 80-82 degree C.
  2. Unlike other RTX 4070 Laptop GPUs which can max reach up to 110W in 99% cases, this device can actually push it to 125W (Default TDP of RTX 4070 laptop) almost all the time and even near to 140 Watt in highly GPU dependent games, like in Cyberpunk.
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Wish I was in the market to buy a PC right now, this seems like a good one that doesn't need a lot of desk space and can do it all so to speak.
My current machine was a little cheaper and a little better specs, but way bigger size.
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If they could fit 12GB or 16GB of VRAM in this one, it would be perfect.
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Quote from doubletoaster :
If they could fit 12GB or 16GB of VRAM in this one, it would be perfect.
How can they do that? That's up to the GPU manufacturers. RTX 4070 mobile should have come with at least 10GB VRAM but sadly Nvidia released it with 8GB only.
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would consider if sold by amazon. heard too many bad stories with buying from the official site.
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This has the advantage in windows gaming. The new Mac mini has the advantage in virtually every other category.
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Quote from mrwoooo :
This has the advantage in windows gaming. The new Mac mini has the advantage in virtually every other category.
Against this configuration, Mac Mini with M4 chip + 24GB Ram + 512GB SSD model has advantage in only efficiency. You need at least m4 Pro to even come close to the performance and that will cost you more with similar Ram and storage.
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Quote from seanleeforever :
The point is that, for people who are not looking at gaming but looking at large language modeling, 8G is too small. And this make the Mac mini a perfect value proposition. Even the cheapest Mac Mini now comes with 16 g unified memory, equivalent to that of laptop 4090. Sure the m4 is nowhere nearly as fast as even the 4060 for inferencing, but it can at least load the model.

anyways, for non-LLM useage, I used to look at their previous version that comes with 3070, but now I think Beelink with ex dock is probably the better way to go.
I don't think AI LLM models work that way. Otherwise, you always need a GPU with huge amount of memory just for loading the model, despite the AI performance of the actual GPU Core. RTX 4070 will always perform better in any kind of AI workload over a normal M4 and probably against a M4 Pro chip as well. But if you have any reviews or comparison analysis for LLM models between these two, please do share.
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Quote from mrwoooo :
This has the advantage in windows gaming. The new Mac mini has the advantage in virtually every other category.

Wow that's a big ole lolacoaster.
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"pay the price of a similarly specd laptop for an off brand laptop without screen, speakers, ram, battery and ssd".

While I love minipcs, these prices are a joke.
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Quote from Suryasis :
I don't think AI LLM models work that way. Otherwise, you always need a GPU with huge amount of memory just for loading the model, despite the AI performance of the actual GPU Core. RTX 4070 will always perform better in any kind of AI workload over a normal M4 and probably against a M4 Pro chip as well. But if you have any reviews or comparison analysis for LLM models between these two, please do share.
it works exactly that way, which is why NVDA stock is so high.

there are few models out there, such as llama 3, they come with 1B, 3B, 7B, 11B, 90B.. etc. for a 3B model (text chat), you need about 24G vram for a context size of 128K.
you wont' be able to load that in a 4070, while the actual inference speed is much faster on the 4070... what good does it do if you cannot even load the parameters? you gonna fall back to system ram and your speed is going to be abysmal. if you deploy qwen 2.5 72B model, which takes about 45G varm to run, you got less than token per second on 4090 because the vram cannot hold it, whereas on M3 or M4 max you can still get reasonable 7/8 token per second. you need a 48G RTX Ada 6000 from nvda to got above 24G or vram, to load larger model sizes.
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Surprised this isn't getting more attention. Am I missing something? A full size desktop with same specs typically runs for this much if not more, even custom built ones. This seems like a really good deal given the sff and portability. Usually there's a hefty premium for the smaller sizes like this. The build quality seem really decent to boot.
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Quote from Goldn :
Surprised this isn't getting more attention. Am I missing something? A full size desktop with same specs typically runs for this much if not more, even custom built ones. This seems like a really good deal given the sff and portability. Usually there's a hefty premium for the smaller sizes like this. The build quality seem really decent to boot.

All mobile laptop components. This 4070 is more like a 3060 desktop.
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