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forum thread Posted by ikliomve • Dec 5, 2024

*DEAD* Mesh Wi-Fi - (Bundle of 4) Package eero Max 7 BE20800 Tri-Band Mesh Wi-Fi 7 System (3-pack) and Max 7 BE20800 Tri-Band Mesh Wi-Fi 7 Router - Best Buy - $1299.99

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Bundle of four. You get the router and three satellites. Still too much for me but this is the best price I've seen for all these components. $1,000 off

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Bundle of four. You get the router and three satellites. Still too much for me but this is the best price I've seen for all these components. $1,000 off

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/comb...338c619e7f

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Dec 5, 2024
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Nishiko
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It's expensive but if you want the best you gotta pay for it.

For me I'm plenty happy with my Eero Pro 6E's. I love the simplicity and hands off no hassle, and rock solid stability of Eero. It does its own firmware updates and everything, not my problem. I just enjoy the internet.
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Slump Buster
Dec 5, 2024
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If you see this and you're not sure if you need wifi7, you don't. You would have to have a really specific use case for this, especially so early in the adoption cycle. Home users would never see a difference between this and wifi6.
Dec 5, 2024
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sleekdeer
Dec 5, 2024
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Quote from Nishiko :
It's expensive but if you want the best you gotta pay for it.

For me I'm plenty happy with my Eero Pro 6E's. I love the simplicity and hands off no hassle, and rock solid stability of Eero. It does its own firmware updates and everything, not my problem. I just enjoy the internet.
Genuinely curious. What is your use case for this tech for someone willingly paying a grand? Are you using it at home? For netflix? Just trying to understand the rational.
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rbraden
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There are 5 of us in the house. We can all wirelessly stream 4k video and do all sorts of other things at the same time with wifi gear that was like $300 on sale several years ago. For 99% of people this kind of hardware is a solution in search of a problem.
Dec 5, 2024
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Nishiko
Dec 5, 2024
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Quote from sleekdeer :
Genuinely curious. What is your use case for this tech for someone willingly paying a grand? Are you using it at home? For netflix? Just trying to understand the rational.
The previous gen Eero Pro 6E's can be had for much less on sale, and are typically cheaper if you buy a multi-pack too, which I did.

I only live in a small condominium so I took one of them and my relatives paid for the other two they live in a considerably bigger home.

I'm network savvy and am the tech person for my family, and I'm getting older and just sick of it even for myself.

I've had various generations of Eero for the last at least 5+ years, and I won't use any other solution unless I'm forced to or unless they screw it up by some major unforced errors.

It's just secure and super easy, and like I said, one less thing for me to deal with in life, which I welcome with open arms. It's nice to have something that takes care of itself and always just works.

And mainly by that I mean super easy setup and management + primarily: fairly frequent automatic firmeare updates... and not just for two or three years like other router manufacturers (if you're lucky), but for 5+ years at minimum typically.

As for *this* actual Wi-Fi 7 package, I'd say it's overkill unless you have a really large house, with super fast internet, or just a regular large house and this amount of money is fairly trivial to you and you just want the absolute best and future-proofed to the largest extent you currently can by being on the latest Wi-Fi standard and having the latest equipment from Eero. I do not fall in that category one iota, so it's not for me, but Eero has much more affordable options depending on what your needs are.
Dec 6, 2024
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aparoche
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Quote from Nishiko :
It's expensive but if you want the best you gotta pay for it.

For me I'm plenty happy with my Eero Pro 6E's. I love the simplicity and hands off no hassle, and rock solid stability of Eero. It does its own firmware updates and everything, not my problem. I just enjoy the internet.
Eh, last night I just replaced my Eero Pro 6E's with the TP-Link Deco BE11000 3-pack mesh system from CostCo for $400. The TP-Link setup has better range, speeds, and more functionality than isn't tied to a paid subscription, like pretty much every non-basic feature on the Eero.

Keep in mind, this coming from a huge supporter of Eero ever since the Eero Pro 2nd Gen WiFi 5's. The Eero 6E's can barely get speeds close to a gig down unless you have wired backhaul. The TP-Link has better range, gets through walls better, and can reach higher speeds, even with wireless backhaul.

Eero is great for two reasons — ease of installation and amazing stability. They never go down and you never have to reboot them. Also, with the 6E and previous Eero models, you could buy electrical outlet trays that would hide all of the wiring and allow you to mount your Eero's out of the way on electrical outlets. This was a nice convenience to "hide" multiple Eero's throughout your house. However, they ruined this ability with the new form factor of the Eero 7's.

However, all of these mesh systems are getting super easy to install these days. I actually set up my TP-Link Deco's with their phone app faster than my Eero's.
Last edited by aparoche December 6, 2024 at 07:46 AM.
Dec 6, 2024
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Nishiko
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Quote from aparoche :
Eh, last night I just replaced my Eero Pro 6E's with the TP-Link Deco BE11000 3-pack mesh system from CostCo for $400. The TP-Link setup has better range, speeds, and more functionality than isn't tied to a paid subscription, like pretty much every non-basic feature on the Eero.

Keep in mind, this coming from a huge supporter of Eero ever since the Eero Pro 2nd Gen WiFi 5's. The Eero 6E's can barely get speeds close to a gig down unless you have wired backhaul. The TP-Link has better range, gets through walls better, and can reach higher speeds, even with wireless backhaul.

Eero is great for two reasons — ease of installation and amazing stability. They never go down and you never have to reboot them. Also, with the 6E and previous Eero models, you could buy electrical outlet trays that would hide all of the wiring and allow you to mount your Eero's out of the way on electrical outlets. This was a nice convenience to "hide" multiple Eero's throughout your house. However, they ruined this ability with the new form factor of the Eero 7's.

However, all of these mesh systems are getting super easy to install these days. I actually set up my TP-Link Deco's with their phone app faster than my Eero's.
To each their own, but I'm sticking hard to Eero unless they fumble the ball.

And I would not say pretty much all the useful features are behind a subscription paywall. I don't subscribe, and they work plenty fine. You don't have to subscribe for all the primary basic features to work. And if you want those extra features then the subscription is well worth it... and enough people subscribing is one of the primary reasons why we get such long firmware support for the Eeros, it helps to pencil out.
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deltasig44
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Not getting that price. Is deal dead?
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dodtracker
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Quote from deltasig44 :
Not getting that price. Is deal dead?
Not showing the package price for me either.
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Quote from Nishiko :
To each their own, but I'm sticking hard to Eero unless they fumble the ball.

And I would not say pretty much all the useful features are behind a subscription paywall. I don't subscribe, and they work plenty fine. You don't have to subscribe for all the primary basic features to work. And if you want those extra features then the subscription is well worth it... and enough people subscribing is one of the primary reasons why we get such long firmware support for the Eeros, it helps to pencil out.
I disagree. I should not have to pay a subscription to configure a VPN client on my router. This has been a basic and free feature for ages on routers. You can't even get basic parental control on Eero without paying up. The most you can do on an Eero is address reservations and port forwarding, which once again, is a basic feature on routers since they were first invented. You can't even look at your history of network traffic logging on Eero without paying up. That is the biggest joke of all…

https://community.eero.com/t/35h0...in-28-days

Eero (Amazon) is looking for a cash grab and it's annoying. Meanwhile, I just set up my VPN Client on my TP-Link Deco's in about 5 minutes without paying an extra dime. Eero only works for people who configure them and never do anything with them other than browse the Internet — basic users and old people.
Last edited by aparoche December 6, 2024 at 01:05 PM.
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Nishiko
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Quote from aparoche :
I disagree. I should not have to pay a subscription to configure a VPN client on my router. This has been a basic and free feature for ages on routers. You can't even get basic parental control on Eero without paying up. The most you can do on an Eero is address reservations and port forwarding, which once again, is a basic feature on routers since they were first invented. You can't even look at your history of network traffic logging on Eero without paying up. That is the biggest joke of all…

https://community.eero.com/t/35h0...in-28-days

Eero (Amazon) is looking for a cash grab and it's annoying. Meanwhile, I just set up my VPN Client on my TP-Link Deco's in about 5 minutes without paying an extra dime. Eero only works for people who configure them and never do anything with them other than browse the Internet — basic users and old people.
Mostly fair points.

But I'll take the absolute best in class stability and support of Eero & proper & LONG firmware support & "completely not my problem" no hassle for my internet and if I want those extra features, I'll happily pay up for them on the subscription.
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configer
Dec 6, 2024
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Home 10G ethernet alternative?
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Quote from Nishiko :
Mostly fair points.

But I'll take the absolute best in class stability and support of Eero & proper & LONG firmware support & "completely not my problem" no hassle for my internet and if I want those extra features, I'll happily pay up for them on the subscription.
$100 bucks a year to use some basic router features, on top of already expensive mesh devices? That's a bit crazy. That's 25 percent of the cost of the 3-pack of TP-Link Deco's that I just bought from CostCo.

Paying an additional $100 bucks a year for basic router features is a bit funny considering the Eero Pro 6E model is technically already obsolete with WiFi 7 mesh setups out now.
Last edited by aparoche December 6, 2024 at 02:15 PM.
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Home 10G ethernet alternative?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CN45QCBX
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Quote from aparoche :
$100 bucks a year to use some basic router features, on top of already expensive mesh devices? That's a bit crazy. That's 25 percent of the cost of the 3-pack of TP-Link Deco's that I just bought from CostCo.

Paying an additional $100 bucks a year for basic router features is a bit funny considering the Eero Pro 6E model is technically already obsolete with WiFi 7 mesh setups out now.
Eero comes with some unique features too, that most routers do not have. And the overall experience is just better than most every other router out there, sometimes by a long shot.

Some people value their time more, so if having something like this can give you back even an hour of your time (or less hassle/interruptions/aggravation/manual work, it would be worth it.

For me I don't need to subscribe and most people wouldn't either. The futures you are talking about are pretty much a nice to have, nothing in that is absolutely necessary, and if you wanted to be cheap about it and still have an Eero, there are other ways to skin those cats.

For me, the most important thing about the Eero is stability, being out of my hair / not my problem, and **security**.

No other consumer router gets as many firmware updates nor for as long, and those are important for security patches as needed. This isn't the year 1995 anymore. Frequent security patches are essential.

When a company has no further revenue potential after selling a device, it should come as no surprise they have little incentive to support it well or for a really long time.

Also, again, some people don't value their time and/or aggravation in life in these calculations as much as they probably should.
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