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ASRock Challenger Arc B570 10GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 x8 ATX Video Card

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$220

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Newegg has ASRock Challenger Arc B570 10GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 x8 ATX Video Card (B570 CL 12GO) for $219.99. Shipping is $4.99.

Thanks to Community Member mystwu2 for finding this deal.

Specs:
  • 10GB 192-Bit GDDR6
  • Core Clock 2600 MHz
  • 1 x HDMI 2.1 3 x DisplayPort 2.1 with DSC
  • PCI Express 4.0 x8

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Newegg has ASRock Challenger Arc B570 10GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 x8 ATX Video Card (B570 CL 12GO) for $219.99. Shipping is $4.99.

Thanks to Community Member mystwu2 for finding this deal.

Specs:
  • 10GB 192-Bit GDDR6
  • Core Clock 2600 MHz
  • 1 x HDMI 2.1 3 x DisplayPort 2.1 with DSC
  • PCI Express 4.0 x8

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Written by powerfuldoppler | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • Please see original post for additional details & give the WIKI and additional forum comments a read for helpful discussion.
  • About this product:
    • 1-Year Warranty

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Kinda depends though. There's a CPU overhead issue with the Arc cards where older CPU's starting at the Ryzen 5 5600 and i5 12400H and weaker chips begin to see performance loss. The 5600 sees 15% worse performance than a 7600, and if you go further back to a 3600 or 2600 the performance loss is larger and larger -over 40% worse performance on a Ryzen 5 2600 versus a Ryzen 5 7600.

If your PC has something older than a Ryzen 5 5600 then the RX 7600, RX 6600XT, RX 6650XT, RX 6600 all become viable options because they don't see the same performance regression on older CPU's. Past that there are instances where the B570 and B580 and even the A770 16GB all have substantially worse performance in specific games compared to the competition. Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 for example heavily favors AMD graphics cards, and at 1080p max settings you'd be looking at 50% more FPS on an RX 7600 than an Arc B580.

Like I said: they're not perfect. They have issues with older CPU's and they haven't ironed out drivers in all games yet. Games don't crash all the time like they used to, but when you're ahead in one game by a fair margin but behind in another by a huge margin it's clear there are substantial improvements still to be made on the driver front.
Even if these aren't perfect I'm just glad there's a card that can play modern games at respectable framerates at this price. Pretty close to 4060 performance for $80 less -not bad.
I think the extra ~$25 is worth it if you can find the B580 in stock.

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Quote from James_in_VA :
I'm a newb piecing together a machine to run virtual pinball at 2K resolution/60 FPS or better. I already have the following which I bought steeply discounted during BF sales: CPU - AMD Ryzen 9 5900X; MOBO - ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Gaming AMD AM4 ATX; RAM - CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 3200MHz. I'd be truly grateful if someone could tell me if this would be a good fit. I'd like to get a GPU for $300 or less. Thanks in advance!
Should be fine for Pinball @ 60Hz. Might have trouble at 120.
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BrainDoc
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Quote from dealslick0 :
a little slower than a rtx 3070 but for $225 it's about $150 cheaper than the cheapest new rtx 3070. Not bad, hard to go wrong at that price.

b570 vs rtx 3070
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypnM0znbypg
You've had multiple replies but I also want to point out that the video is about the B580, not the B570 in this deal. The B570 is significantly slower than a 3070.
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angeldog
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Quote from TuskenHater :
Stay away from these, Newegg just trying to cash in hoping unsuspecting users will be confused and think this is the new B580 series.
I agree completely these intel cards are too little to late
It's 2025
we shouldn't be interested in mid range 1440p gaming
4k gaming is almost a decade old now
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Quote from donldmn :
I think the extra ~$25 is worth it if you can find the B580 in stock.
It's nowhere in stock. I agree with you though.
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ShrewdVest7049
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What's the big deal? These aren't faster than a RX6650XT and are the same price.
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Quote from Notadealio :
Kinda depends though. There's a CPU overhead issue with the Arc cards where older CPU's starting at the Ryzen 5 5600 and i5 12400H and weaker chips begin to see performance loss. The 5600 sees 15% worse performance than a 7600, and if you go further back to a 3600 or 2600 the performance loss is larger and larger -over 40% worse performance on a Ryzen 5 2600 versus a Ryzen 5 7600.

If your PC has something older than a Ryzen 5 5600 then the RX 7600, RX 6600XT, RX 6650XT, RX 6600 all become viable options because they don't see the same performance regression on older CPU's. Past that there are instances where the B570 and B580 and even the A770 16GB all have substantially worse performance in specific games compared to the competition. Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 for example heavily favors AMD graphics cards, and at 1080p max settings you'd be looking at 50% more FPS on an RX 7600 than an Arc B580.

Like I said: they're not perfect. They have issues with older CPU's and they haven't ironed out drivers in all games yet. Games don't crash all the time like they used to, but when you're ahead in one game by a fair margin but behind in another by a huge margin it's clear there are substantial improvements still to be made on the driver front.
It shouldn't surprise anyone that an Intel GPU will not be optimized to run as well on older AMD CPU's
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Quote from Dkizzy :
It shouldn't surprise anyone that an Intel GPU will not be optimized to run as well on older AMD CPU's
No, it's that reviewers use the highest the CPU and with a moderate CPU like you would pair this with, the performance takes a huge hit. AMD/NVIDIA cards don't take the same performance loss on slower CPUs.

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Quote from nicholasnicktech :
It's nowhere in stock. I agree with you though.
I managed to reserve one of 6 available arc B580 for pickup at Microcenter this morning. Be patient and keep watching. Eventually supply will catch up.
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Quote from ShrewdVest7049 :
No, it's that reviewers use the highest the CPU and with a moderate CPU like you would pair this with, the performance takes a huge hit. AMD/NVIDIA cards don't take the same performance loss on slower CPUs.
Would my AMD 5700X be considered a slow CPU that shows this performance loss? My B580 order from a month ago finally shipped.
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Quote from Dkizzy :
It shouldn't surprise anyone that an Intel GPU will not be optimized to run as well on older AMD CPU's
This is incredibly ignorant and shows how little you know about computing.

The performance regression happens on older Intel CPU's as well. Five minutes on YouTube or Google could have told you that.
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Quote from James_in_VA :
I'm a newb piecing together a machine to run virtual pinball at 2K resolution/60 FPS or better. I already have the following which I bought steeply discounted during BF sales: CPU - AMD Ryzen 9 5900X; MOBO - ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Gaming AMD AM4 ATX; RAM - CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 3200MHz. I'd be truly grateful if someone could tell me if this would be a good fit. I'd like to get a GPU for $300 or less. Thanks in advance!
This isn't as good of a deal as the B580 if it comes back at $250. Otherwise it's a fair deal at this price point right now and it should have a bit more longevity than an RX 7600. The Arc cards do have an issue with CPU overhead, but it's probably less of an issue with a 12-core monster. Just got to make sure that resizable BAR is enabled in your BIOS.
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Quote from litesdsd :
Would my AMD 5700X be considered a slow CPU that shows this performance loss? My B580 order from a month ago finally shipped.
It will be fine.
https://youtu.be/m9uK4D35FlM?si=BqMULB7607tj0ZOJ
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this or nvidia 1070?
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Quote from fewlio :
this or nvidia 1070?
You know, there's less daylight between these two cards than many would think. If you picked up one for $90 and you only wanna play eSports titles at 60FPS and 1080p, sticking with something like a 1070 isn't a horrible idea.

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Quote from Teaser38 :
You know, there's less daylight between these two cards than many would think. If you picked up one for $90 and you only wanna play eSports titles at 60FPS and 1080p, sticking with something like a 1070 isn't a horrible idea.
yeah I'm at 1080p desktop and my other is a steam deck and I love playing 3-25 year old games exclusively due to cherry picking the best user reviewed games and also price savings

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