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frontpage Posted by BabyBubba ⢠Mar 20, 2025
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Talk about inaccurate statements
Not that it changes how one should approach this, I'd bet they haven't changed much how they operate. Rather return fraud has increased and they haven't adapted to ensure the returns they're buying are actually functional
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You could always just buy Dewalt, Milwaukee, Skil, Metabo, Hart, Flex, Makita, Bosch, Kobalt, Bauer, Hercules, Black & Decker, Greenworks, Worx, Ridgid, or Craftsman if you really don't like the dumb battery stem. There are a few choices out there for flatter batteries.
The simple reality is the current design isn't current at all and it continues to hold Ryobi back. There are numerous potential solutionsā¦it's far from a novel problem in product history. They can start with a single separate lineup of redundant tools, something which they literally already do by making multiple variations & power levels and battery capacities of any given type of tool, and just add to that lineup over time so that Ryobi can finally offer a truly power dense compact tool that's competitive. Or they can forever be hamstrung and boxed into a corner of their own making. For the many ppl that continue to want to use their old batteries with the new lineup, those ppl clearly never prioritized compactness and a cheap mechanical adapter would more than suffice, an alternative possibility could be a exchange program and Home Depot's offering on site swaps or selling kits with empty housings that you can swap your old cells into.
It doesn't need to be an all or nothing issue that instantly revolts people. Ryobi for example sold adapters to let you use your old nickel metal hydride and nickel cadmium batteries with the modern lithium ryobi tools.
TLDR: there's multiple ways to offer something new, and none of them need to make millions off existing tools and batteries obsolete, let alone unusableā¦nor does it need to be a either/or issue especially not overnight. If executed properly there should be no real source of friction for customers
But they should really figure out if they're going to just let HART continue to sip up market share from HD
Anything above it is overkill unless you work trades or need these tools for a living.
Oh I know but we're way past that point imo and I just feel the need to advocate for change at Ryobi every once in a while š
HD is trying to have their cake and eat it too with Ryobi & brands like skil or hart are looking more attractive for that entry level tool every day.
Also Ryobi still had another critical flaw last I checked, They tend to make many of their tools with ABS plastic clamshells instead of GFS (glass fiber reinforced styrene) plastic clamshells that every other tool manufacturer uses except maybe some silly cheap online Chinese stuff. ABS is very prone to cracking and breaking/fractures etc especially around the battery area & where the handle connects to the tool.
It seems like they have started finally using GFS sometimes in recent years for stuff that absolutely demands it like some but not all of their chainsaws, which is good, but these tools aren't cheap enough to justify material choices like that imo
Ridgid seems a bit neglected lately unfortunately and HD can't seem to decide whether they want to push it aggressively or not at all, but they sure are happy to continue raising prices. I'm still waiting for a second generation stealth force impact driver but I guess it's never coming, dewalt just introduced a hydraulic impact driver so maybe my upgrade will necessitate switching brands
It doesn't need to be an all or nothing issue that instantly revolts people. Ryobi for example sold adapters to let you use your old nickel metal hydride and nickel cadmium batteries with the modern lithium ryobi tools.
TLDR: there's multiple ways to offer something new, and none of them need to make millions off existing tools and batteries obsolete, let alone unusableā¦nor does it need to be a either/or issue especially not overnight. If executed properly there should be no real source of friction for customers
But they should really figure out if they're going to just let HART continue to sip up market share from HD
You do realize Ryobi, Rigid, Milwaukee and Hart are all made by the same company? They don't need Ryobi to compete with Milwaukee. They serve different markets and price points
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I think you just failed to do any research before you judge my statement.
It doesn't need to be an all or nothing issue that instantly revolts people. Ryobi for example sold adapters to let you use your old nickel metal hydride and nickel cadmium batteries with the modern lithium ryobi tools.
TLDR: there's multiple ways to offer something new, and none of them need to make millions off existing tools and batteries obsolete, let alone unusableā¦nor does it need to be a either/or issue especially not overnight. If executed properly there should be no real source of friction for customers
But they should really figure out if they're going to just let HART continue to sip up market share from HD
There is a secondipidy account on eBay with the same logo as the website (and 685k items sold), but it appears they don't sell tools on eBay. Makes you wonder if it's so they don't have to abide by eBay's policies/return protections?
I guess it could be one liquidation company managing different accounts for a lot of big retailers.
thanks. Toolsdirect seems to be an interesting place for Depot tools; have you tried them yet? any verdict?
thanks
HD is trying to have their cake and eat it too with Ryobi & brands like skil or hart are looking more attractive for that entry level tool every day.
Also Ryobi still had another critical flaw last I checked, They tend to make many of their tools with ABS plastic clamshells instead of GFS (glass fiber reinforced styrene) plastic clamshells that every other tool manufacturer uses except maybe some silly cheap online Chinese stuff. ABS is very prone to cracking and breaking/fractures etc especially around the battery area & where the handle connects to the tool.
It seems like they have started finally using GFS sometimes in recent years for stuff that absolutely demands it like some but not all of their chainsaws, which is good, but these tools aren't cheap enough to justify material choices like that imo
Ridgid seems a bit neglected lately unfortunately and HD can't seem to decide whether they want to push it aggressively or not at all, but they sure are happy to continue raising prices. I'm still waiting for a second generation stealth force impact driver but I guess it's never coming, dewalt just introduced a hydraulic impact driver so maybe my upgrade will necessitate switching brands
or a third option: other pro brands. i like Makita, but the Depot has other brands just as good.
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TL[img]https://static.slickdealscdn.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]R I hate ryobi and try to avoid it, owning the gas chainsaw reinforced my opinion.
If I were a betting man, I'd wager that your Ryobi's 2-cycle engine isn't made by Ryobi, but by a well known engine maker like Poulan or Husqvarna. To optimize fuel consumption, adjust the high speed needle (the one furthest from the engine block) like this: Warm the engine up, then hold it at full throttle with the choke completely disengaged. Screw in the high speed mixture screw until it reaches maximum RPMs. Then slowly back it out until RPMs decrease just a little. That's the optimum ever so slightly rich setting for engine longevity, minimal fuel consumption, and very close to maximum power output regardless of slight octane differences in fuel batches.
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Also they don't have any discount promos going on right now.
Out of the 10 or so purchases I've made with tools direct, only one was bad. It was a $40-ish Ryobi circular saw which looked like brand new but the blade lock button didn't work.
I went to return it as defective and they asked if I'd want to keep for like $10. So I did and they sent me a refund for the rest.