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expired Posted by HappyPixel • Apr 9, 2025
Apr 9, 2025 10:45 AM
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expired Posted by HappyPixel • Apr 9, 2025
Apr 9, 2025 10:45 AM
Costco Members: 4-Pk 5-Qt Kirkland Signature Full Synthetic Motor Oil (various)
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The stuff sold at a price point (bargain basement) will meet API SP and dexos1 will have a treat rate of about 8.5% wt in the engine oil. Treat rate is the focus for products sold under a bid as the additive is sold by the ton, the less you use the cheaper the product. The more premium stuff will meet ACEA, MB 229, VW 501, etc. and have a treat rate of closer to 13%.
Now the clincher for me is that cheap additive package will pair with a cheap viscosity modifier (VM), the stuff that makes it a 0W-xx, usually some olefin copolymer (OCP). These are what I refer to as dirty polymers because they tend to leave more deposits as they break down (piston walls, skirts, rings, turbo bearings).
Those premium packages because they need to pass more stringent Euro specs will use a styrenic type polymer usually a star polymer which is a cleaner and more shear stable VM. This helps us keep the pistons cleaner = less scuffing, blow by, better power, better fuel economy, and these days more importantly a cleaner turbo as those are very hard on oil.
In the end the cheap stuff will not kill your engine, but much like living on ramen noodles and McDonalds it isn't going to make that engine stay at like new performance. I used to formulate this stuff before I retired so happy to answer questions.
Lower viscosity in the US is for CAFE reasons, not motor longevity.
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Correct, $29 was the sale price in Ohio
The stuff sold at a price point (bargain basement) will meet API SP and dexos1 will have a treat rate of about 8.5% wt in the engine oil. Treat rate is the focus for products sold under a bid as the additive is sold by the ton, the less you use the cheaper the product. The more premium stuff will meet ACEA, MB 229, VW 501, etc. and have a treat rate of closer to 13%.
Now the clincher for me is that cheap additive package will pair with a cheap viscosity modifier (VM), the stuff that makes it a 0W-xx, usually some olefin copolymer (OCP). These are what I refer to as dirty polymers because they tend to leave more deposits as they break down (piston walls, skirts, rings, turbo bearings).
Those premium packages because they need to pass more stringent Euro specs will use a styrenic type polymer usually a star polymer which is a cleaner and more shear stable VM. This helps us keep the pistons cleaner = less scuffing, blow by, better power, better fuel economy, and these days more importantly a cleaner turbo as those are very hard on oil.
In the end the cheap stuff will not kill your engine, but much like living on ramen noodles and McDonalds it isn't going to make that engine stay at like new performance. I used to formulate this stuff before I retired so happy to answer questions.
What oil do u recommend?
Basic engine oil = API SP/ GM dexos1
Better engine oil = Above + ACEA, VW, BMW or MB specifications attached.
If it meets Euro spec then those are likely to use high quality components as the low quality product can't pass those engine tests.
That said if you have a lease car or something you will trade in, well in that case, anything that meets the vis grades/specs recommended by the OEM as you won't care about losing a few hp or mpg.
If you are like me and keep things forever and are getting a little too old to keep wrenching every weekend... then choose one that meets those higher specs.
I also run 5w-30 in my Honda that calls for 20 weight.
The fuel dilution of DI motors thins oil out. 5w-30 helps with that a good deal.
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Does this product fall under basic engine oil or better engine oil category??
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