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They need to put the 9800X3D or 9950X3D in these RTX 5090 builds.
It's terrible that they're tying these GPUs to this dead-end Intel CPU socket. The new Intel CPUs will require a new motherboard and these ones aren't good enough.
It's terrible that they're tying these GPUs to this dead-end Intel CPU socket. The new Intel CPUs will require a new motherboard and these ones aren't good enough.
I don't get where this silly argument about 'dead end sockets' came from. This has been the case for Intel since the advent of building your own gaming PC. Its how they churn the market so you need to buy entirely new hardware. Its also part of how Intel stays at the forefront of production level PCs because RAM, and motherboard specs tend to improve along with the regular new generations. Its incredibly niche that a consumer would be upgrading solely their CPU given that most upgrades are double the cost with an average of maybe 10% increases in performance on average. Your CPU determines so much of how RAM performs, if a new spec comes out in the production methods, you wouldn't performance increase want that bound to the constraints of a previous generation's architecture.
I don't get where this silly argument about 'dead end sockets' came from. This has been the case for Intel since the advent of building your own gaming PC. Its how they churn the market so you need to buy entirely new hardware. Its also part of how Intel stays at the forefront of production level PCs because RAM, and motherboard specs tend to improve along with the regular new generations. Its incredibly niche that a consumer would be upgrading solely their CPU given that most upgrades are double the cost with an average of maybe 10% increases in performance on average. Your CPU determines so much of how RAM performs, if a new spec comes out in the production methods, you wouldn't performance increase want that bound to the constraints of a previous generation's architecture.
Its absolutely not "silly" - this is the first one-generation socket I'm aware of Intel making in the last 15+ years.
12-13-14 - one socket
10-11 - one socket
8-9 - one socket
6-7 - one socket
etc.
(6-7-8-9 are technically all LGA 1151 but I believe 8 and 9 needed new motherboards)
This CPU literally covers ONE generation only. That's bad even by Intel standards which historically had a tick-tock two-year cycle minimum all the way back to 2007.
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I don't get where this silly argument about 'dead end sockets' came from. This has been the case for Intel since the advent of building your own gaming PC. Its how they churn the market so you need to buy entirely new hardware. Its also part of how Intel stays at the forefront of production level PCs because RAM, and motherboard specs tend to improve along with the regular new generations. Its incredibly niche that a consumer would be upgrading solely their CPU given that most upgrades are double the cost with an average of maybe 10% increases in performance on average. Your CPU determines so much of how RAM performs, if a new spec comes out in the production methods, you wouldn't performance increase want that bound to the constraints of a previous generation's architecture.
The only silly part here is assuming that it is niche for people to upgrade solely their CPU. Ever heard of socket AM4 and how many people drop in new CPUs on the same socket for almost a decade now?
I see prices all over the place for similar-looking machines. After looking at the specs, and visiting their website (which looks a lot like Newegg) here's a sincere question: Why is this worth almost $3,900? To me, the hardware seems closer to $2,800. I must be missing something. What?
I see prices all over the place for similar-looking machines. After looking at the specs, and visiting their website (which looks a lot like Newegg) here's a sincere question: Why is this worth almost $3,900? To me, the hardware seems closer to $2,800. I must be missing something. What?
Build one out and when you get to the 5090, come back and give us an update
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I don't get where this silly argument about 'dead end sockets' came from. This has been the case for Intel since the advent of building your own gaming PC. Its how they churn the market so you need to buy entirely new hardware. Its also part of how Intel stays at the forefront of production level PCs because RAM, and motherboard specs tend to improve along with the regular new generations. Its incredibly niche that a consumer would be upgrading solely their CPU given that most upgrades are double the cost with an average of maybe 10% increases in performance on average. Your CPU determines so much of how RAM performs, if a new spec comes out in the production methods, you wouldn't performance increase want that bound to the constraints of a previous generation's architecture.
I agree. Id like to ask original comment what use case they foresee where the intel cpu in this system is bottleneck vs amd gen & if its not within 10%. Also if they believe the next gen AMD will use current socket & not necessitate the same mobo swap.
Im happy to be proven wrong here, but I dont see it.
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12-13-14 - one socket
10-11 - one socket
8-9 - one socket
6-7 - one socket
etc.
(6-7-8-9 are technically all LGA 1151 but I believe 8 and 9 needed new motherboards)
This CPU literally covers ONE generation only. That's bad even by Intel standards which historically had a tick-tock two-year cycle minimum all the way back to 2007.
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Specs say GPU brand varies. RAM is usually whatever they have in hand that is on the QVL list for the mobo. I've mostly seen g skill in these.
The only silly part here is assuming that it is niche for people to upgrade solely their CPU. Ever heard of socket AM4 and how many people drop in new CPUs on the same socket for almost a decade now?
Build one out and when you get to the 5090, come back and give us an update
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I agree. Id like to ask original comment what use case they foresee where the intel cpu in this system is bottleneck vs amd gen & if its not within 10%. Also if they believe the next gen AMD will use current socket & not necessitate the same mobo swap.
Im happy to be proven wrong here, but I dont see it.
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