Southwire Romex Simpull Solid Indoor 50' 10/2 and 50' 12/2 W/G NMB Cable Bundle (2 Items) $50.74
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Yes we both wrote that at one point.
My comment on the banned outlets is specifically for dryers which used to use 10-30 outlets. That required bonding neutral to ground which isn't code compliant...
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My point exactly. There are 3-slot code-compliant 250v receptacles that use 2+1 cables. This was the whole argument that there is "no use" for 10/2.
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The old 10-30 type of outlet doesn't have a ground, only a neutral, and are thus not code compliant. Neutral can not be safely used as a ground because it's a current carrying wire when the load uses...
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Well, yes, but the question was, what uses 30a on 110v? The 10/2 in this listing is a use case for that outlet, which most tow-behind trailers utilize.
50a RV is moot on 220v; none of these cables...
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I don't know. This article talks only about dryers and includes some real nonsense like this:
"3-Slot: As stated previously before the mid 90’s dryer outlets tended to have 3 slots (one ground and...
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It was in the 1996 NEC revision. Don't know the exact section off the top of my head but internet sleuthing will reveal it.
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Can you point to a NEC referrence?
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Those outlets are not allowed for new construction because they're not up to code. The outlets are sold as repair parts for old houses that are grandfathered to the older code.
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An EV, whether BEV or PHEV, can charge at any current up to its maximum internal charger supports, and down as low as 6A. The EVSE and car handshake to what each supports and charges at the...
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But a 50A (dryer) outlet (to be used for BEV charging) needs the neutral to be up to code, no? Without the neutral, you can only put in an outlet that will receive the less-powerful 16A level 2...
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Would have loved to pay 2x for 2x the length.
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Depends on the usage. EVSE (EV "chargers") do not use the neutral, so 10/3 is a waste of copper and money. Those can be wired directly to 10/2.
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There are several code-compliant 3-pole 3-wire 250V NEMA receptacles. I don't see how 2+1 cables can be banned.
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Came here a little too late. Needed Romex for a new electric box install
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Well each state doesn't have its own code, its a national electrical code. But each state can choose what they do and don't adopt. NEC is just a bare minimum install, locals can decide if they...
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I've used Romex to build indorr/attic TV antennas. Follow the DB4 design that mcapp created. Home built antennas are basically just wire and a balum, carefully placed and arranged....
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sure, and they've always been that way. You said things are changing. Not sure what's changing. a 50 amp RV outlet is 220. always was always will be.
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Deal is dead
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The very fact that each state has its own code speaks itself. Electricity and physics are the same but folks choose to approve different ways of doing it - so there are many safe ways to get it done....
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My best advice is hire a local electrician that is licensed and insured. Don't hire a handyman or do electrical yourself because there is many hazards in a poor install from electrical shock or a...
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