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What ever happened to Duracell (and Energizer as well, to lesser extent.)

9,605 2,579 June 28, 2017 at 10:24 PM
Okay. I've had problems with Duracell and Energizer batteries for years now. Thing is, I usually get them from 'Free after Rewards' or similar promotions so it's not like they cost much. Still, how cheaply made do they have to be to keep leaking ALL the time!

My most recent 20 pack of AAA Duracells is what prompted this post. It's an unopened pack with a 2023 use by date. With "10 Years in storage" guaranty, they were made around 2013. So I pulled them out of the cabinet where they were stored only to find... EIGHT of them have already started leaking. That's 8/20 from at most a four year old pack that's never been opened and stored indoors never over 80F since I brought them home. Still, 2/5 of the cells are already bad.

I've had plenty of Duracell batteries go bad in the last decade or so. Even some that still had an almost full charge and a couple individual batteries still in their packs. Never have I seen this many go bad from a still unopened pack!

I've already been taking batteries out of anything I don't use regularly. Now I have to consider taking all the batteries out except from devices I use every day. Just seems sad coming from a company that once made a quality product.

PS. Of the other 10+ packs of batteries I have stored, another Duracell AAA with 2022 date had a few leaking cells and the single Energizer AAA pack I have also has a few leaking cells. So with only a single sample it's hard to say for sure, but the Energizer batteries may be even worse than the Duracells which make up 95% of what I have. None of my Duracell AAs appeared to be leaking in package. I went ahead and opened the Duracell 2022 pack with three leaking to test the batteries and all 16 showed a positive charge in the green. So it's not a matter of the cells becoming discharged and failing.

EDIT: After writing this, I had to clear out 3 more leaking Duracell cells later the same night from an LED headlamp my father had put away with the batteries still in. It's gotten so common I've actually bought a special tool just for cleaning the corrosion left by leaking batteries. It's called a 'scratch brush' and it works a little like a mechanical pencil, but with a group of brass bristles instead of lead. Can get them with brass, steel, or fiberglass inserts. Apparently they're commonly used in the jewelry business, but work pretty well in tight spots to scrape away deposits and clean the contacts.

UPDATE: Six month later and a couple more cells are leaking, bringing the total up to 50%.
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06-29-2017 at 06:00 AM.
06-29-2017 at 06:00 AM.
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dayv
06-29-2017 at 07:25 AM.
06-29-2017 at 07:25 AM.
this has never happened to me. but i also buy rayovac because they are cheaper. i normally only see leaks in electronics that i haven't used in a decade.
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06-29-2017 at 07:49 AM.
06-29-2017 at 07:49 AM.
Quote from dayv :
this has never happened to me. but i also buy rayovac because they are cheaper. i normally only see leaks in electronics that i haven't used in a decade.
Same here. Even then, I can only think of a few things I've ever had leaking batteries in. I've used all sorts of different batteries.
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06-29-2017 at 07:54 AM.
06-29-2017 at 07:54 AM.
Quote from Frogstar :
Same here. Even then, I can only think of a few things I've ever had leaking batteries in. I've used all sorts of different batteries.








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06-29-2017 at 08:19 AM.
06-29-2017 at 08:19 AM.
My guess is that they weren't stored appropriately before you purchased them.
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shhaggy
06-29-2017 at 08:26 AM.
06-29-2017 at 08:26 AM.
Also, what's the humidity like where you are? Drier the better. I wouldn't blame QC since it's across many purchases of multiple brands. The common denominator appears to be you, lol.
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06-29-2017 at 08:28 AM.
06-29-2017 at 08:28 AM.
I recently saw leaking batteries destroy an expensive thermostat.
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06-29-2017 at 08:42 AM.
06-29-2017 at 08:42 AM.
Quote from Frogstar :
Same here. Even then, I can only think of a few things I've ever had leaking batteries in. I've used all sorts of different batteries.
like that TI-83 you haven't used since highschool and you were wondering if it still had tetris on it. thanks Obama.
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06-29-2017 at 08:46 AM.
06-29-2017 at 08:46 AM.
In my role of sound guy for venues and churches for the last ten years or so, I've used hundreds of batteries from every major brand, and I can't say I've experienced anything similar to what you are. Of course, the longest any decent venue keeps batteries on the shelf is months, not years.

At home, I switched to rechargeables seven or eight years ago and have never had a leak.
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06-29-2017 at 08:58 AM.
06-29-2017 at 08:58 AM.
If you're storing quantities of batteries for later use, best to keep them in a cool, dark, dry place, precisely to prevent what you're seeing. I'd guess you have relatively high humidity and/or overly warm conditions?
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06-29-2017 at 10:07 AM.
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I am in the desert and have noticed an increase in corroded batteries in things too, remotes, landscape lights ( and I don't have reg sprinklers to hit them.. we have "drizzlers" out here)..so yeah I think the quality is getting hit.

Then again many of these are from a bulk deal and have been in a drawer for a while (over a year,)
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06-29-2017 at 10:36 AM.
06-29-2017 at 10:36 AM.
We were buying batteries from Amazon for a while and had a lot of leaking batteries so we stopped buying from Amazon and get them from Costco now. Haven't had any leaks since then. My best guess is the batteries from Amazon were being tossed around a lot during shipping to us and with other really heavy stuff and no padding in the S&S box they were being damaged.
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06-30-2017 at 11:56 AM.
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Quote from VorlonFrog :
If you're storing quantities of batteries for later use, best to keep them in a cool, dark, dry place, precisely to prevent what you're seeing. I'd guess you have relatively high humidity and/or overly warm conditions?
Again, mentioned right in the main post. They're stored in a cabinet inside with air conditioning set below 80F (75F thermostat), in their sealed packages. no reason for them to be experiencing any undue heat or humidity, though we do see a bit of both outside here in Houston.

With so many negative responses I do have to wonder if the source for most of them (Office Depot) has something to do with it.
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06-30-2017 at 12:21 PM.
06-30-2017 at 12:21 PM.
Quote from Danzilla :
Again, mentioned right in the main post. They're stored in a cabinet inside with air conditioning set below 80F, in their sealed packages. no reason for them to be experiencing any undue heat or humidity, though we do see a bit of both outside here in Houston.
80F is a bit high. Long-term storage temp should be 50-65F. Below that, and you need to warm it up a bit before use. Above that and it may gas/leak (in storage).

Is the cabinet metal or wood? Any coins/metal near the batteries where it was stored? Magnets?

How it was transported and stored before you bought them is also a factor. Did you buy them from the store or online? Made in XYZ?

The 2nd problem you mentioned is caused by parasitic drain when a battery is left inside a device for 3+ months. It's pretty common and a different problem from storage corrosion.
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