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As far as Optics Planet being reputable, they are top notch. I've ordered several optics from them over the years (including high dollar spotting scope) and have never had an issue. Always good packaging, great prices, free shipping (sometimes with free 2-day upgrade), and good customer service. They are an authorized dealer of many brands as well.
FWIW these are one of the two older models, which are essentially a fixed stock when not in slidefire mode- they're fine, and they work fine... but the newer model is adjustable, sturdier, and just a lot nicer in general... (also more expensive of course).
I've got one new one, and one OG one.. both work, but if I could only keep one it'd definitely be the newer model.
So fair warning to anybody thinking about buying one.
The ATF is about to classify these as "machine guns" under the NFA. There is currently an open comment section on ATF.gov discussing a proposed change and accepting public comments.
Essentially Congress won't touch it with a ten foot pole, and instead are trying to pressure the ATF to administratively decide that they're machine guns. Cowards.
I agree. My post deserves WAY more love than it's gotten.
As far as Optics Planet is concerned, I have only ordered one thing from them, and it arrived well packaged and quickly. Soft case for a 12 gauge Mossberg 500.
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I agree. My post deserves WAY more love than it's gotten.
As far as Optics Planet is concerned, I have only ordered one thing from them, and it arrived well packaged and quickly. Soft case for a 12 gauge Mossberg 500.
Out of respect for the Vegas victims, we should get bump stocks. You know what they say, it takes a good guy with a bump stock to take down a bad guy with one. In for 10.
So fair warning to anybody thinking about buying one.
The ATF is about to classify these as "machine guns" under the NFA. There is currently an open comment section on ATF.gov discussing a proposed change and accepting public comments.
Essentially Congress won't touch it with a ten foot pole, and instead are trying to pressure the ATF to administratively decide that they're machine guns. Cowards.
buy with caution. they could be illegal by March.
Probably not though... because by the actual written definition of them they don't fit- so that'd be a significant over-reach- doubly so given what this administration has done with administrative rules on everything else.
NFA defines a machine gun as:
Any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger
A slidefire stock doesn't do that.
It still only fires once per function of the trigger. (you could maybe make a better case to classify binary triggers that way...maybe... but not slidefire stocks)
Not to mention they'd need to either grandfather existing ones (like opening the NFA registry to allow you to register them- which legally can't be done unless congress does something- see the Hughes Amendment) or they'd need to buy them all back to avoid it being an illegal taking (which they ALSO can't do without congress acting to authorize the money for that).
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Probably not though... because by the actual written definition of them they don't fit- so that'd be a significant over-reach- doubly so given what this administration has done with administrative rules on everything else.
NFA defines a machine gun as:
Any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger
A slidefire stock doesn't do that.
It still only fires once per function of the trigger. (you could maybe make a better case to classify binary triggers that way...maybe... but not slidefire stocks)
Not to mention they'd need to either grandfather existing ones (like opening the NFA registry to allow you to register them- which legally can't be done unless congress does something- see the Hughes Amendment) or they'd need to buy them all back to avoid it being an illegal taking (which they ALSO can't do without congress acting to authorize the money for that).
I'm with you but it's like any other opinion letter they write-nobody wants to be the guinea pig that tests the theory in court. Just like the stupidness that was the pistol brace decision for a few years.
Are these as comfortable as factory stock when using in normal single-fire mode?
Depends on the factory stock I guess? As I said earlier, they're... fine... the more expensive, adjustable, model is noticeably nicer though (and should be since they cost a bit over 2x as much)
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I'm an avid gun owner and enthusiast... but come on, no one needs a bump stock.
Nobody "needs" a Porsche either- but they're sure fun.
Nobody "needs" wine, but some of it tastes quite good.
Heck, nobody "needs" a steak- but it tastes a lot better than a soyburger.
The list of stuff nobody "needs" but people sure want, is awfully long.
Good thing we live someplace you're not only permitted to own things someone else decides you "need" huh?
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As far as Optics Planet being reputable, they are top notch. I've ordered several optics from them over the years (including high dollar spotting scope) and have never had an issue. Always good packaging, great prices, free shipping (sometimes with free 2-day upgrade), and good customer service. They are an authorized dealer of many brands as well.
I've got one new one, and one OG one.. both work, but if I could only keep one it'd definitely be the newer model.
The ATF is about to classify these as "machine guns" under the NFA. There is currently an open comment section on ATF.gov discussing a proposed change and accepting public comments.
Essentially Congress won't touch it with a ten foot pole, and instead are trying to pressure the ATF to administratively decide that they're machine guns. Cowards.
buy with caution. they could be illegal by March.
As far as Optics Planet is concerned, I have only ordered one thing from them, and it arrived well packaged and quickly. Soft case for a 12 gauge Mossberg 500.
As far as Optics Planet is concerned, I have only ordered one thing from them, and it arrived well packaged and quickly. Soft case for a 12 gauge Mossberg 500.
The ATF is about to classify these as "machine guns" under the NFA. There is currently an open comment section on ATF.gov discussing a proposed change and accepting public comments.
Essentially Congress won't touch it with a ten foot pole, and instead are trying to pressure the ATF to administratively decide that they're machine guns. Cowards.
buy with caution. they could be illegal by March.
Probably not though... because by the actual written definition of them they don't fit- so that'd be a significant over-reach- doubly so given what this administration has done with administrative rules on everything else.
NFA defines a machine gun as:
Any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger
A slidefire stock doesn't do that.
It still only fires once per function of the trigger. (you could maybe make a better case to classify binary triggers that way...maybe... but not slidefire stocks)
Not to mention they'd need to either grandfather existing ones (like opening the NFA registry to allow you to register them- which legally can't be done unless congress does something- see the Hughes Amendment) or they'd need to buy them all back to avoid it being an illegal taking (which they ALSO can't do without congress acting to authorize the money for that).
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NFA defines a machine gun as:
Any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger
A slidefire stock doesn't do that.
It still only fires once per function of the trigger. (you could maybe make a better case to classify binary triggers that way...maybe... but not slidefire stocks)
Not to mention they'd need to either grandfather existing ones (like opening the NFA registry to allow you to register them- which legally can't be done unless congress does something- see the Hughes Amendment) or they'd need to buy them all back to avoid it being an illegal taking (which they ALSO can't do without congress acting to authorize the money for that).
Nobody "needs" a Porsche either- but they're sure fun.
Nobody "needs" wine, but some of it tastes quite good.
Heck, nobody "needs" a steak- but it tastes a lot better than a soyburger.
The list of stuff nobody "needs" but people sure want, is awfully long.
Good thing we live someplace you're not only permitted to own things someone else decides you "need" huh?
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