Wanted to chime in on this. I had this model for 6+ years before she finally gave out, multiple leaks and brew group was jamming a lot. Sold on ebay in that condition for $150+shipping so they hold their value. If you want superauto this is a good choice for good consistent results each time IMO. I now have a semi auto and while its a slightly more work the results are superior.
This is a good price for new, but Amazon warehouse has a couple cheaper. One at $387.54 that's missing the DVD instructions, and may have a scuff or something.
I got mine on AWD for $413 in January and the condition was: "Condition: Used - Very Good - Small cosmetic imperfection on top, front or sides of item. Item will come in original packaging."
It was perfect, never been operated. Never had water or coffee in it at all. I never noticed any marks or anything either.
This is a good price for new, but Amazon warehouse has a couple cheaper. One at $387.54 that's missing the DVD instructions, and may have a scuff or something.
I got mine on AWD for $413 in January and the condition was: "Condition: Used - Very Good - Small cosmetic imperfection on top, front or sides of item. Item will come in original packaging."
It was perfect, never been operated. Never had water or coffee in it at all. I never noticed any marks or anything either.
For those who are thinking of doing this route, a word of warning: AWD does not carefully inspect their products like they claim they do. Just received my super automatic yesterday with the same condition description. I opened it up and there was no brew group. Looks like somebody's brew group went out and decided to swap theirs out for a new one then returned it. Amazon will refund you, of course. Just a waste of your time if it happens to you.
Tempting deal. My ESAM 5500 is moaning and groaning and I've had to do a few minor repairs over the years to the plastic bits and pieces, but it's still going after over 6k brews. Not sure if this model is a step up or down from mine but I'm assuming down based on model number so I'll hold out a bit longer.
Wanted to chime in on this. I had this model for 6+ years before she finally gave out, multiple leaks and brew group was jamming a lot. Sold on ebay in that condition for $150+shipping so they hold their value. If you want superauto this is a good choice for good consistent results each time IMO. I now have a semi auto and while its a slightly more work the results are superior.
Thanks for the info! What model is your preferred semi auto?
Wanted to chime in on this. I had this model for 6+ years before she finally gave out, multiple leaks and brew group was jamming a lot. Sold on ebay in that condition for $150+shipping so they hold their value. If you want superauto this is a good choice for good consistent results each time IMO. I now have a semi auto and while its a slightly more work the results are superior.
I have had mine chugging along for the same time. Got a slow leak during brewing that I haven't found, but I just put the whole thing an a tray, so no water on the counter and the leak water evaporates before the next day.
Also had brew group problems that had me ready to pack it in till I discovered that you are supposed to replace and lube the O rings.
Wanted to recommend this machine. I've had 5 different Saeco superautomatic models across my entire family and this is the best one out of all of them and the one that we all use now.
I have had mine chugging along for the same time. Got a slow leak during brewing that I haven't found, but I just put the whole thing an a tray, so no water on the counter and the leak water evaporates before the next day.
Also had brew group problems that had me ready to pack it in till I discovered that you are supposed to replace and lube the O rings.
new O rings and food safe lube, and good as new.
Mine leaked from the side or under the unit, sometimes leaked espresso from the front door, and would sometimes leak from the steam wand even when it was clearly closed off. I was using food lube for the last few years but never replaced the O rings. I did periodically disassemble and clean it real well though. At the end the brew group got stuck and sounded like something cracked inside and gave blinking error lights. I took the whole machine apart to get the brew unit out and did a hard reset on the unit but the same thing happened again. I thought about getting a new brew unit to hope it would fix it but these things are meant to die at some point (hot water, pressure, moisture from steam wand with electronics, etc) so I just sold it in that condition for about $150. All that said I did strongly consider getting another one before I settled on a Breville Semi Auto and I've been happy.
Wanted to chime in on this. I had this model for 6+ years before she finally gave out, multiple leaks and brew group was jamming a lot. Sold on ebay in that condition for $150+shipping so they hold their value. If you want superauto this is a good choice for good consistent results each time IMO. I now have a semi auto and while its a slightly more work the results are superior.
Mine leaked from the side or under the unit, sometimes leaked espresso from the front door, and would sometimes leak from the steam wand even when it was clearly closed off. I was using food lube for the last few years but never replaced the O rings. I did periodically disassemble and clean it real well though. At the end the brew group got stuck and sounded like something cracked inside and gave blinking error lights. I took the whole machine apart to get the brew unit out and did a hard reset on the unit but the same thing happened again. I thought about getting a new brew unit to hope it would fix it but these things are meant to die at some point (hot water, pressure, moisture from steam wand with electronics, etc) so I just sold it in that condition for about $150. All that said I did strongly consider getting another one before I settled on a Breville Semi Auto and I've been happy.
I was going to give up on my, the cost of new brew unit was too much and repairs would be half of getting a new unit, but $20 for parts was worth a shot and now I'll get a few more years out of hit. Here's hoping I can find this kinda price on a new one when the time comes.
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I got mine on AWD for $413 in January and the condition was: "Condition: Used - Very Good - Small cosmetic imperfection on top, front or sides of item. Item will come in original packaging."
It was perfect, never been operated. Never had water or coffee in it at all. I never noticed any marks or anything either.
I got mine on AWD for $413 in January and the condition was: "Condition: Used - Very Good - Small cosmetic imperfection on top, front or sides of item. Item will come in original packaging."
It was perfect, never been operated. Never had water or coffee in it at all. I never noticed any marks or anything either.
Also had brew group problems that had me ready to pack it in till I discovered that you are supposed to replace and lube the O rings.
new O rings and food safe lube, and good as new.
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Also had brew group problems that had me ready to pack it in till I discovered that you are supposed to replace and lube the O rings.
new O rings and food safe lube, and good as new.