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You need to trigger Amazon's retail fraud algorithm to get banned. If you aren't committing fraud, you'll be fine.

Think of it this way. Amazon wants to maximize profits. It makes no business sense to ban people from using your service. It's not just "if you return too many items, you get banned." Amazon has top engineers working out algorithms to fight retail fraud.

For example, you return a baseball glove because "it wasn't as advertised". They automatically cross-check that with the other returns for that item and compare it with the percentage that said it "wasn't as advertised". If you keep returning products over and over that don't often get returned, you build a pattern that the analysts use to predict fraud.

Mostly though, the people who get banned are buying high ticket items and using Amazon as a rental service. I know of one photographer who was buying expensive lenses for gigs ($700-$2000 each) and returning them after the event. His pattern was spotted and then, yes "he was banned for returning too much stuff".

Another example were people buying counterfeit items on Aliexpress and Wish, then buying the genuine item on Amazon, swapping them and returning the fake one to Amazon for a full refund. Then they'd sell the real one on eBay. Again, these commonly counterfeited items are inspected at the return center (more thoroughly than say, the baseball glove). If you return a counterfeit item, they will log it internally. They might ban you right then or they may wait. You might think you tricked them and they didn't know, but chances are they know. Amazon logged the fact that you scammed them, but elected not to take action. (Because again, it's not in Amazon's interest to ban customers) But If you do enough shady stuff, you'll eventually trip the threshold and lose your account.

It doesn't make sense to continue a business relationship with customers that lose them money, but it is NOT in Amazon's interest to stop people from using their service. And if you aren't committing return fraud, you have no reason to be concerned at all.

However if you are buying items knowing full well that you're going to use them and then send them back, that's fraud. If you do it often or on a bunch of high ticket items, you'll get caught and banned.

For example, the guy with the lenses is someone I actually know. After he got banned, they enacted some kind of rule that blacklisted his address and his IP to spot new accounts. He's persona non grata from Amazon and you have no idea how much that sucks.

So he tried to get his account back by bitching and moaning on social media about being "unfairly terminated for making too many returns" and said that he returned "only 11 of his 600+ amazon orders". And yes that's true, but he conveniently left out that those 11 returned orders were high priced lenses. So don't believe everything you read on Twitter either.
I don't believe you. People giving their side tend to leave out the relevant parts of the story. They do not simply remove customers, especially high purchasing customers unless something very shady was going on. I am 100% positive you were scamming Amazon in some way.
I hear a lot of talk about Amazon blacklisting on here but have never heard anyone actually say they got blacklisted.

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07-16-2018 at 01:33 AM.
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good deal . I like how this comes with 24 hours of free storage
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07-16-2018 at 04:03 AM.
07-16-2018 at 04:03 AM.
This seems like an outstanding deal. I was waiting on the Ring indoor camera that are scheduled for this year but this price on the Cloud Cam may be too great to pass.
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07-16-2018 at 04:12 AM.
07-16-2018 at 04:12 AM.
Be very very wary. Cloud cam is tied to your amazon acct.
If they blacklist you, kiss your camera goodbye.

Also, hardware is VERY good on this device, but the software that controls it is piss-poor
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07-16-2018 at 04:29 AM.
07-16-2018 at 04:29 AM.
Quote from mrmochi :
Be very very wary. Cloud cam is tied to your amazon acct.
If they blacklist you, kiss your camera goodbye.

Also, hardware is VERY good on this device, but the software that controls it is piss-poor
Recent reviews are blistering negative...
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07-16-2018 at 05:01 AM.
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Quote from mrmochi :
Be very very wary. Cloud cam is tied to your amazon acct.
If they blacklist you, kiss your camera goodbye.

Also, hardware is VERY good on this device, but the software that controls it is piss-poor

What are the grounds for getting blacklisted?
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07-16-2018 at 05:12 AM.
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What are the grounds for getting blacklisted?
Being a net loss rather then a net gain to Amazon (i.e. returning more goods then you are keeping). And for returning "too many" things in general. Pretty shady, but it makes sense.
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07-16-2018 at 05:15 AM.
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Quote from D.8256 :
Being a net loss rather then a net gain to Amazon (i.e. returning more goods then you are keeping). And for returning "too many" things in general. Pretty shady, but it makes sense.
I hear a lot of talk about Amazon blacklisting on here but have never heard anyone actually say they got blacklisted.
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07-16-2018 at 05:34 AM.
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Is there a limit?
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07-16-2018 at 05:42 AM.
07-16-2018 at 05:42 AM.
I bought one of these last week (at full price, but needed it then) to watch the dog while we are away. I think at the price, it is a no brainer. Depending on your needs, there may be better cameras out there. But, for 24 hr of cloud storage (when motion is detected) and basic 2-way audio and a built-in speaker, it's a pretty good camera.
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