Lorex WiFi 1080P security camera w/PIR, lights, 2-way talk, alarm 2-pack $202.99, 4-pack $342.99, 6-pack $482.99

Awesome deal thanks for sharing! This might be just what I need to fill in the gaps before I invest in a real system.

Mat - their WiFi cameras are rated to -4°F, will they actually stop working around that temp?

Are there solar panels that work well with these?

Can it record to external storage device or just the microsd card?

Interesting.. if only PoE

Interesting.. if only PoE

Hi le0pard,

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If you're looking for a great POE option, the new 2018 Ring Stickup Wired cameras are POE and have far superior software (all of Ring's proprietary technology)--I had a Lorex POE system and the noisy NVR/DVR and recently upgraded to the mentioned Ring Stickup POE system--much better functionality with the latter but also now no noisy DVR/NVR (just fanless POE switch to power the cameras)--also real-time notifications are going to be better w Ring as well as reviewing recorded footage vs dealing with a clumsy NVR/DVR....

Quote from mat2000 : Thanks N123, $180 list for the new model ... nicer looking camera, good to see Ring step up their game. "Ideal for homes without a PoE router, the PoE Adapter provides power over ethernet for your Stick Up Cam Wired." - states Ring on their POE Adapter page: https://shop.ring.com/products/po...0149563481 [ring.com] What the heck is a POE router!?!?! I don't think I have ever seen one. ( ahhh.. Ubiquiti Networks makes some of those - but often their POE is passive on many products so not a good fit for what I need, would have been better imho if they said POE switch - a more common product ) N123, perhaps with your experience you can help out with a few questions ( I've looked but not much luck yet on answers ) 1) Has Ring fixed the issue regarding lacking embedded time stamps on this new model? 2) Is Ring still a closed system? i.e. no local recording capability? i.e. no rtsp feed? 3) Are these new models POE capable models able to do continuous recording? If so, what is the bandwidth requirements? 4) If these are dependent on the cloud service being available and up, what happens when during an ISP / cloud outage? My Notes: Noisy NVRs - you can go the PC route and a fanless POE switch, it will be cheaper on the long run compared to monthly cloud service. So there's a few options to address that. The new Ring model: Field of View 150° horizontal, 85° vertical - that's a very wide FOV = short ID distance w/1080P - The older model had a 140° FOV and an ID distance of 7.86 feet, thus this one will be < 7.86 feet update: the few sample image captures from the new Ring shows more of a fisheye view - thus images on the edges of the FOV can be problematic for ID purposes due to distortion. WIth an on-prem system I can get some really nice cameras at $180 each - including 8MP ones, or 2MP starlights.

mat2000Thanks N123,

$180 list for the new model ... nicer looking camera, good to see Ring step up their game.

"Ideal for homes without a PoE router, the PoE Adapter provides power over ethernet for your Stick Up Cam Wired." - states Ring on their POE Adapter page: https://shop.ring.com/products/po...0149563481 [ring.com]

What the heck is a POE router!?!?! I don't think I have ever seen one. ( ahhh.. Ubiquiti Networks makes some of those - but often their POE is passive on many products so not a good fit for what I need, would have been better imho if they said POE switch - a more common product )

N123, perhaps with your experience you can help out with a few questions ( I've looked but not much luck yet on answers )

1) Has Ring fixed the issue regarding lacking embedded time stamps on this new model?
2) Is Ring still a closed system? i.e. no local recording capability? i.e. no rtsp feed?
3) Are these new models POE capable models able to do continuous recording? If so, what is the bandwidth requirements?
4) If these are dependent on the cloud service being available and up, what happens when during an ISP / cloud outage?


My Notes:

• Noisy NVRs - you can go the PC route and a fanless POE switch, it will be cheaper on the long run compared to monthly cloud service. So there's a few options to address that.
• The new Ring model: Field of View 150° horizontal, 85° vertical - that's a very wide FOV = short ID distance w/1080P - The older model had a 140° FOV and an ID distance of 7.86 feet, thus this one will be < 7.86 feet update: the few sample image captures from the new Ring shows more of a fisheye view - thus images on the edges of the FOV can be problematic for ID purposes due to distortion.
• WIth an on-prem system I can get some really nice cameras at $180 each - including 8MP ones, or 2MP starlights.

Hello Mat2000,

I will do my best to answer your questions:
• you do not need a POE router nor do you need to pay to use ring's designated POE adapter— you can use any POE switch: I am using the cheap TPlink POE switch (https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-TL...tplink+poe) and it works just fine. Minimal power consumption compared to a PC/NVR/DVR and its fanless so there is no noise.
• The very wide FOV is awesome with the Ring cameras— I have switched from a five camera Lorex system to only needing three of the Ring cameras although YMMV depending on where your cameras are placed/your particular situation. The quality of the image is as good as any of the other IP cameras I have used in the past.
• The main advantage of this system is **proactive** notification of a trespasser/criminal with Ring's proprietary software/customizable motion to text zones/etc. versus most CCTV systems which do nothing proactive to prevent crime and only provide you with footage after the fact. Rings new software features allowing multicam view on your phone but also allow much more easy review of the footage with a scrolling timeline and selectable dates: again much better than what Lorex offered on my system

in regard to your particular questions:
• I do not believe that ring actually embeds timestamps in the footage itself but this info is easily viewable from the app
• as far as I know, it is still a closed system with no capability for local recording.
• Currently the cameras only record when motion is detected but there is word that ring will soon be offering 24 hour high/continuous recording to compete with Nest.
• I believe that if your Internet goes out the cameras no longer work-- however, since the cameras are POE and not Wi-Fi, the signal never drops. My ethernet connection to the Internet almost never fails—the main issue for most people is unreliable Wi-Fi.

I highly recommend these: so much better than what I was getting with Lorex… Hope this is helpful.

Hello Mat2000,

I will do my best to answer your questions:..

I highly recommend these: so much better than what I was getting with Lorex… Hope this is helpful.