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Q-see QCN8093B / Dahua OEM IPC-HFW1831E 4K / 8MP IP PoE bullet camera $108.00

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4K IP Ultra HD Bullet Camera with Intelligent Video Analysis and Color Night Vision (QCN8093B)
list: $179.99
use code: TIDYUP40 for 40% off ( -$71.99 on $179.99 = $108.00 )

Camera Type: Bullet
Megapixels: 4K (8MP)
Night Vision: Colored, Up to 160ft
Lens Size: 2.8mm Fixed Lens
Viewing Angle: 131°
IR Cut Filter: Yes
IR LED: Two High-Powered LEDs
Digital Zoom: 16x
Recording Resolution:
4K (3840 x 2160) 30FPS
5MP (2560 x 1920) 30FPS
3MP (2048 x 1536) 30FPS
1080p (1920 x 1080) 30FPS
Compatibility: Mac/PC/Android/iOS/QC NVRs
Connector Type: RJ45 (10/100 Base-T)
Weather-Resistance: Yes, IP67
Operating Temperatures: -22° to 140° F
Power Supply: PoE or DC 12V 1A

Ref:
https://q-see.com/products/4k-ip-...s-qcn8093b

This Q-see camera appears to be the rebranded Dahua OEM IPC-HFW1831E camera

This is the similar to the OEM model which Montavue was selling in their kits that had the 30 fps 8MP / "4K" cameras, and is similar ( but better due to IVS features ) as the Lorex 30 fps 8MP / "4K' bullets.

Note, there appears to be no microphone in the camera. So that maybe one difference.

Review at ipcamtalk of the Dahua OEM model
https://ipcamtalk.com/threads/8mp...iew.31828/

Spec sheet:
https://qplus.dozuki.com/Document...93B_SS.pdf


https://q-see.com/products/4k-ip-...s-qcn8093b
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Last Edited by skardem February 28, 2019 at 06:47 PM
8 Cameras with NVR $720 soon to be a front page deal. thanks KrupaharanG and mat2000
https://q-see.com/products/8-chan...3432373365

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mat2000
02-28-2019 at 12:24 PM.
02-28-2019 at 12:24 PM.
Specifications

Camera Type. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Bullet Camera
Camera Technology. . . . . . . . . . . IP
Image Sensor Size. . . . . . . . . . . . . 1/2"
Image Sensor Type. . . . . . . . . . . . Progressive CMOS
Megapixels. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8MP
Effective Pixels. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3840 x 2160
Lens Size. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2.8mm Fixed Lens
Field of View. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . H: 131º, V: 111ºIR
Cut Filter. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Yes
Max. User Access. . . . . . . . . . . . . 20 Users

Video CompressionH.265+, H.265, H.264+, H.264
8MP (3840 x 2160) Up to 30FPS

IVA Functions Abandon, Intrusion, Missing Object, Tripwire INTELLIGENT VIDEO ANALYSIS IVA ( this is what Dahua calls IVS functions in their OEM products )
Two-Way Talk Audio: No
Microphone: No
Speaker: No


Update:

Compare with
Lorex: 4K Ultra HD Resolution 8MP Outdoor IP Camera with Real-Time 30FPS Recording Rate, Color Night Vision and Listen-In Audio
LNB9232S $399.99 ( what! I don't know what Lorex people are smoking, but $400 for a Lorex camera is crazy .. )
https://www.lorextechnology.com/4...B9232S-1-p

also compare with Montavue ( they basically carry Dahua OEM products w/the IVS features retained )
Montavue: 4K 8MP IP Bullet Camera – H.265, 30fps, 200ft IR Night Vision & Color Night Optics – Montavue MTB8110
$199.95
https://montavue.com/shop/4k-8mp-...e-mtb8110/
( iirc these also have microphones in the camera )

( note: they do appear to be slightly different due to no microphone in the Q-see cameras, otherwise from what I can tell they are very close models )

update 2:
Look for the Dahua OEM junction box PFA121 to go with these cameras. Q-see may also have accessories ( update I found none on their website ). That will help protect the connections from the environment.

Note the lorex boxes for "4 screw" base cameras are Dahua OEM PFA121, so they will also work see part numbers ACJNCD4BKB, S1JF2G, ACJNCD4B
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gbjohnson4821
02-28-2019 at 12:35 PM.
02-28-2019 at 12:35 PM.
Quote from mat2000 :
Specifications

Camera Type. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Bullet Camera
Camera Technology. . . . . . . . . . . IP
Image Sensor Size. . . . . . . . . . . . . 1/2"
Image Sensor Type. . . . . . . . . . . . Progressive CMOS
Megapixels. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8MP
Effective Pixels. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3840 x 2160
Lens Size. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2.8mm Fixed Lens
Field of View. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . H: 131º, V: 111ºIR
Cut Filter. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Yes
Max. User Access. . . . . . . . . . . . . 20 Users

Video CompressionH.265+, H.265, H.264+, H.264
8MP (3840 x 2160) Up to 30FPS

IVA Functions Abandon, Intrusion, Missing Object, TripwireINTELLIGENT VIDEO

ALYSIS IVA
Two-Way Talk Audio Microphone Speaker No No No
Would these cameras work with a Lorex NR908X-N NVR?
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HemiMuscle
02-28-2019 at 12:38 PM.
02-28-2019 at 12:38 PM.
can this be flashed by dahua firmware? I am willing to try it.
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dallas1234
02-28-2019 at 12:54 PM.
02-28-2019 at 12:54 PM.
Quote from mat2000 :
Specifications

Camera Type. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Bullet Camera
Camera Technology. . . . . . . . . . . IP
Image Sensor Size. . . . . . . . . . . . . 1/2"
Image Sensor Type. . . . . . . . . . . . Progressive CMOS
Megapixels. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8MP
Effective Pixels. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3840 x 2160
Lens Size. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2.8mm Fixed Lens
Field of View. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . H: 131º, V: 111ºIR
Cut Filter. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Yes
Max. User Access. . . . . . . . . . . . . 20 Users

Video CompressionH.265+, H.265, H.264+, H.264
8MP (3840 x 2160) Up to 30FPS

IVA Functions Abandon, Intrusion, Missing Object, TripwireINTELLIGENT VIDEO ANALYSIS IVA
Two-Way Talk Audio Microphone Speaker No No No

This vs a HDW5231R ?
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02-28-2019 at 01:15 PM.
02-28-2019 at 01:15 PM.
Quote from gbjohnson4821 :
Would these cameras work with a Lorex NR908X-N NVR?
Hi gbjohnson

Yes, it should work well with the Lorex NVR with the only thing that the Lorex NVR can not access the IVS / IVA features on the camera

You will need to adjust and sync the user / password, IP address, and port numbers.

Quote from HemiMuscle :
can this be flashed by dahua firmware? I am willing to try it.
Hi Hemi,

Should already have mostly the Dahua OEM firmware, as iirc Q-see only makes slight modifications - user / password, default IP, port number, and maybe some branding

Quote from dallas1234 :
This vs a HDW5231R ?
Hi Dallas,

Depends on what you need.

This camera ( the bullet ) has a rather wide angle - so maybe an ID distance of about 20 feet, and as an 8MP does a great job with enough light. With the large 1/2" sensor it does very well also in low light - but not as well as the HDW5231R

The HDW5231R is varifocal - allowing you to watch over areas further away, and does a better job in low light.

Ideally, Have one on each side of the garage watching over your parked cars. Use the varifocal to catch good images of those on the sidewalk coming towards the garage, use this bullet to cover those when they are at the cars.
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dallas1234
02-28-2019 at 01:21 PM.
02-28-2019 at 01:21 PM.
Thanks for the advice

I also seen the QCN8090B reconditioned comes out to $72 with the coupon
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02-28-2019 at 01:33 PM.
02-28-2019 at 01:33 PM.
Quote from dallas1234 :
Thanks for the advice

I also seen the QCN8090B reconditioned comes out to $72 with the coupon
Happy to help Dallas

note - the RECONDITIONED 4K IP ULTRA HD BULLET CAMERA (QCN8090B-R) is similar to the 8MP / "4K" IP PoE cameras that can do 15 fps.

I believe it is similar to the Dahua OEM IPC-HFW483xx model

A good camera - good compute within the camera ( supports 3 streams and more IVS features iirc ), however with a smaller sensor - thus not quite as good in low light as the model in the OP.
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Bomberman
02-28-2019 at 02:03 PM.
02-28-2019 at 02:03 PM.
Yo this thing looks freaky.
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02-28-2019 at 02:32 PM.
02-28-2019 at 02:32 PM.
Quote from Bomberman :
Yo this thing looks freaky.
Perhaps something like this would help out
https://www.amazon.com/Hide-Your-...B01FO1GHNS
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KrupaharanG
02-28-2019 at 02:33 PM.
02-28-2019 at 02:33 PM.
@Mat2000, Please suggest if the 8 Channel NVR with 4 Camera for $540 is a good deal? I am looking for four to six camera option.

8 Channel 4K IP HD Network Video Recorder with 2TB Hard Drive and (4) 4K Ultra HD IP Bullet Cameras with Color Night Vision (QCK81-4HF-2)
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KrupaharanG
02-28-2019 at 02:36 PM.
02-28-2019 at 02:36 PM.
Or the 8 camera option for $720

8 Channel 4K IP HD Network Video Recorder with 2TB Hard Drive and (8) 4K Ultra HD IP Bullet Cameras with Color Night Vision (QCK81-8HF-2)
TIDYUP40 (-$479.99)1$1,199.99
$720.00
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kherbinoskie
02-28-2019 at 02:50 PM.
02-28-2019 at 02:50 PM.
Almost perfect. I wish it was a dome version.
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kherbinoskie
02-28-2019 at 02:54 PM.
02-28-2019 at 02:54 PM.
Are these good? 2pack for $138

https://q-see.com/collections/h-2...ar4kb1-1-2
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