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LaView Saturn 8CH 4K NVR with 4x 4K 8MP Turret PoE IP Cameras w/IVS w/o HDD LVS-KN6284H8 $495.20

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LaView Saturn Series 8CH 4K NVR with 4x 4K 8MP Audio Turret Outdoor PoE IP Camera, 120dB WDR, IP67, IVS, HDD not included
SKU LVS-KN6284H8

$619.00 - 20% off w/code july4 = $495.20

Dahua OEM

Camera specs:
  • 1/2.5" progressive scan STARVIS™ CMOS
  • Stunning "4K" 8.3MP (3840x2160) High Resolution recording and playback w/ 112° Wide angle ( note I use "4K" as these cameras typically are "4K" UHD and iirc do 15 fps - which should fine for most of us )
  • 8 Channel NVR support video and audio recording up to 8 4K IP cameras
  • 2 SATA design support up to 12TB hard drive (6TB each)
  • IVS (Intelligent Video Analysis) analyzes events like intrusion detection, tripwire violations, missing objects detection, face detection and trigger smart notification
  • High definition live view, playback and remote access on Apple, PC and mobile platforms
  • Protect your home or business, day or night, with superior color night vision. IR night vision up to 164 feet away
  • Suitable for indoor and outdoor use with IP67 weather proof rated. Operating temperature -40°F~140°F
  • 3D DNR and 120dB True WDR helps produce clear images
  • Built-in microSD card slot support up to 128GB
  • Built-in microphone for audio recording
  • PoE (802.3af, class0) or DC 12V
  • Support True PoE. ONVIF compliant
  • Mobile App: iDMSS Lite or gDMSS Lite
  • NOT Plug&Play with LaView™ or LaView™ ONE Series Camera or NVR. Manual configuration required. Some features may be limited. See detail.

https://www.laviewsecurity.com/pr...amera.html
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Note - other LaView Saturn products are also available

in particular this mini-bullet maybe of interest

LaView Saturn Series 5MP mini Bullet Ourdoor PoE IP Camera,3.6mm, h.265+, True 120dB WDR, IP67, IVS, 2-pack
SKU LVS-DHPB8652W-36-2P

$116.80 w/july4 discount code ( i.e. <$59 each camera )
https://www.laviewsecurity.com/sa...a-473.html


additional notes:

Definitely a Dahua OEM product, thus with some configuration work you should be able to get other Dahua OEM IP PoE cameras to work with this kit. ( IP, port, user / password config maybe needed )

Amcrest sells a similar looking turret, however iirc it does not have IVS functionality.
Dahua OEM international model cameras should work with this kit, and I would consider augmenting the kit with a couple of Dahua OEM 2MP starlight cameras for areas which need better low light cameras. ( or perhaps some of the newer 4MP starlight+ models )

Remember not to port forward. Turn off P2P and UPnP on your router. If you need remote access look at running a VPN server on your router.
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the last sale came to around $110 each, assuming roughly the same pricing, that puts the nvr at around $50. apologies for being lazy here, but did we ever figure out which dahua nvr this mapped to in the other thread?
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Note - other LaView Saturn products are also available

in particular this mini-bullet maybe of interest

LaView Saturn Series 5MP mini Bullet Ourdoor PoE IP Camera,3.6mm, h.265+, True 120dB WDR, IP67, IVS, 2-pack
SKU LVS-DHPB8652W-36-2P

$116.80 w/july4 discount code ( i.e. <$59 each camera )
https://www.laviewsecurity.com/sa...a-473.html


additional notes:

Definitely a Dahua OEM product, thus with some configuration work you should be able to get other Dahua OEM IP PoE cameras to work with this kit. ( IP, port, user / password config maybe needed )

Amcrest sells a similar looking turret, however iirc it does not have IVS functionality.
Dahua OEM international model cameras should work with this kit, and I would consider augmenting the kit with a couple of Dahua OEM 2MP starlight cameras for areas which need better low light cameras. ( or perhaps some of the newer 4MP starlight+ models )

Remember not to port forward. Turn off P2P and UPnP on your router. If you need remote access look at running a VPN server on your router.

Question... My electrician who will be installing the cameras insist on getting a junction box for each camera...will laview junction box be compatible to these saturn kits ? Confused

another question... if i want 9 cameras connected to NVR... anyway i can connect a wire from NVR port to 4 port POE switch and connect 2 more cameras ? or do i need 16 port NVR... since 10, 12 or 14 port NVR's dont exist....EEK!Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)
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Question... My electrician who will be installing the cameras insist on getting a junction box for each camera...will laview junction box be compatible to these saturn kits ? Confused

another question... if i want 9 cameras connected to NVR... anyway i can connect a wire from NVR port to 4 port POE switch and connect 2 more cameras ? or do i need 16 port NVR... since 10, 12 or 14 port NVR's dont exist....EEK!Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)
Hi dimkalvov,

1) Junction boxes:

( you may need to hit this url 2x to actually get beyond the splash page )
https://www.dahuasecurity.com/pro.../2031/4201

The following junction boxes work for 3 screw bases like those these turrets have:
PFA122
PFA130-E

There is also the PFA136/137/139 - however I do not like these as much as they do not create as good of a seal, and you need the right model for the right camera to get the proper fit.

I did not see these on the LaView accessories page..

Lorex does carry the PFA122 ( squarish box ) in 3 colors
https://www.lorextechnology.com/s...=junction*

They also have a discount code for 15% off.

You can also look at Amcrest and Montavue and see if they have an appropriate box.

( for the mini-bullet cameras w/the 3 screw bases: not certain if the PFA122 / PFA130-E will fit, you'll have to double check on that.. normally look for a similar Dahua OEM camera and look at the spec sheet to see what junction boxes work for that model )

2) Wanting more than 8 cameras - the max number this NVR can handle is 8 channels. You'll want to look for a 16 port / channel NVR or consider a POE switch + PC w/VMS software running on it.
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Hi dimkalvov,

1) Junction boxes:

( you may need to hit this url 2x to actually get beyond the splash page )
https://www.dahuasecurity.com/pro.../2031/4201

The following junction boxes work for 3 screw bases like those these turrets have:
PFA122
PFA130-E

There is also the PFA136/137/139 - however I do not like these as much as they do not create as good of a seal, and you need the right model for the right camera to get the proper fit.

I did not see these on the LaView accessories page..

Lorex does carry the PFA122 ( squarish box ) in 3 colors
https://www.lorextechnology.com/s...=junction*

They also have a discount code for 15% off.

You can also look at Amcrest and Montavue and see if they have an appropriate box.

( for the mini-bullet cameras w/the 3 screw bases: not certain if the PFA122 / PFA130-E will fit, you'll have to double check on that.. normally look for a similar Dahua OEM camera and look at the spec sheet to see what junction boxes work for that model )

2) Wanting more than 8 cameras - the max number this NVR can handle is 8 channels. You'll want to look for a 16 port / channel NVR or consider a POE switch + PC w/VMS software running on it.


@mat2000
Unfortunately there are not many 16CH NVR that seems to be on sale... on slickdeals at least....

What do you think of this QSee System in Costco...

https://www.costco.com/Q-See-16-C...69088.html

may be buy separately couple of dome cameras

https://qplus.dozuki.com/Document...eNdbm/.pdf


I feel like i rather have nvr with 16 ch vs poe hub + PC+Software... (less headache to configure i am assuming)

what do you say ?
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It works with the EoC Passive Converters right? Are they included? Does LaView sell them?

https://us.dahuasecurity.com/prod...converter/
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Odd, I recall replying .. hmmm..

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Unfortunately there are not many 16CH NVR that seems to be on sale... on slickdeals at least....

What do you think of this QSee System in Costco...

https://www.costco.com/Q-See-16-C...69088.html

may be buy separately couple of dome cameras

https://qplus.dozuki.com/Document...eNdbm/.pdf


I feel like i rather have nvr with 16 ch vs poe hub + PC+Software... (less headache to configure i am assuming)

what do you say ?
Hi dimkalvov

Those newer Q-see models are from an OEM which I have seen little posted on. I especially look for comparison reviews to get an idea and as I have seen little on those I am unable to note much at this time.

Good news it that with Costco's great return policy I would be comfortable taking any Costco sold kit home to do a bench test. Ideally you want a reference camera to compare them to.

I think the OEM maybe a company called uniview iirc Sam88 posted on this in a thread

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It works with the EoC Passive Converters right? Are they included? Does LaView sell them?

https://us.dahuasecurity.com/prod...converter/
Hi slickaroon,

I have not seen EoC converters sold at LaView. Personally I have little experience with them, I do see some on ipcamtalk mentioning them as an option.
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I thought LaView was all Hikvision
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Hi paaji,

I recall their line up being all Hikvision when I first started to look at security cameras.

Now La View carries 3 different OEMs from what I can tell. The Saturn products are Dahua OEM.
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Hi Mat,

I like Amcrest phone app, and currently own the 3MP Qcam system, looking to upgrade.

So, my question is which one is better? This deal or this system? https://www.amazon.com/Amcrest-8-...B07S18S981


I don't mind paying the extra $100 for if the Amcrest is a better system

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Hi Mat,

I like Amcrest phone app, and currently own the 3MP Qcam system, looking to upgrade.

So, my question is which one is better? This deal or this system? https://www.amazon.com/Amcrest-8-...B07S18S981


I don't mind paying the extra $100 for if the Amcrest is a better system

Here is a screenshot of what I'm currently recording, to give a better idea of the field of view:
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Hi RazielofNosgoth

I believe the Cameras in the LaView Saturn kit are a bit better as they support IVS. Otherwise, spec wise they seemed close to each other - iirc it was mentioned that they have different f-stops. ( see the prior thread on the discussions )

The NVR hardware maybe close to each other also, so you want to check the spec sheets on those.

If the Q-see 3MP cameras are Dahua OEM you can use them with either NVR, just need to change port / ip and sync the user / password between those cameras and the channel they will be using on the NVR.

If you want to upgrade to more cameras, the 5MP bullets at 2 for <$120 look like a very good deal, and I would certainly look to add 1-2 of the Dahua starlight or starlight+ cameras to cover the most critical area in low light conditions. ( normally at night a lot of car door checkers .. )

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the last sale came to around $110 each, assuming roughly the same pricing, that puts the nvr at around $50. apologies for being lazy here, but did we ever figure out which dahua nvr this mapped to in the other thread?
HI psumarsh,

I suspect the NVR is a Dahua OEM NVR4208-8P-4KS2x - though I have not looked at the specs too closely to see if that appears to be a good guess.

quick review on the spec sheets:

LaView NVR LV-DHN6208
lists Record Rate 200Mbps
also note: "Lite Network Video Recorder" - thus I strongly now suspect this is one of the lite Dahua OEM models ( i.e. NVR4xxx )
https://www.laviewsecurity.com/fi...HN6208.pdf

looks similar to the Dahua OEM NVR4208-8P-4KS2x
https://www.dahuasecurity.com/pro...etail/8291

would need to check more on the specs to see if this is a good guess as well as contrast it with other NVR models.
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Hi RazielofNosgoth

I believe the Cameras in the LaView Saturn kit are a bit better as they support IVS. Otherwise, spec wise they seemed close to each other
I thought this deal is for Lorex, not LaView. My brain wasn't functioning.


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If the Q-see 3MP cameras are Dahua OEM you can use them with either NVR,
They are QCAM, not Q-See, but I understand your point. I think the QCAM is/was part of Foscam/Amcrest and it performs very well.

I happen to have access to a LaView 4K NVR, and I connected one of the QCAM cameras, it did not work as plug and play. I have the option to change the port and IP but wasn't sure of the correct settings (user ignorance here)

I also have access to Lorex 4K NVR and connected the same QCAM camera and it worked without adjustments. It seems the Lorex NVR uses a similar interface to QCAM and probably Amcrest. I felt the Lorex NVR interface is more stable and easier to use than the LaView interface.

The Laview phone app asks me to scan a QR code from the NVR interface, that does not really exist. The app looks outdated and seemed buggy. I also had the chance to play around with Annke 4K that gave a great video quality, but uses the same buggy interface of LaView.



In summary, i feel QCAM/Amcrest and Lorex have a lot in common when it comes to feature and operating interface.
LaView and Annke are similar to each other "that I don't like" and different from Lorex/Amcrest.
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I was thinking of going with blue iris but now I'm thinking this package would be easier to get up and running.

Anything wrong with this set? 4 cameras is enough for me. Would I just need to add a 2mp starlight for optimal night time surveillance?
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