expiredcgrady | Staff posted Aug 29, 2019 06:31 AM
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expiredcgrady | Staff posted Aug 29, 2019 06:31 AM
Denon AVR-X3600H 9.2-Channel 4K A/V Receiver
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I love Yamaha, but the 2085 lacks HDMI 2.1 (it only implements eARC), its room correction is strictly worse, it has one fewer HDMI input, it isn't expandable to 11.2 via a separate amp, and is 1" taller and 5" deeper.
The Yamaha may be the better choice for some people, but it in no way "kills this", and you're missing out on HDMI 2.1 support and other features.
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But not sure you ever needed to upgrade in the first place. AFAIK, the only device that would have 4k Video and lossless audio, would be a 4k blu-ray player. Except they make 4k blu-ray players (LG UBK90) that have a separate HDMI out for audio/video. Meaning you can bypass your AVR for the video (so you keep 4k/HDR) and bypass your TV for the audio (so you get full lossless audio without having to downgrade to lossy audio over regular ARC). Other devices (like the 4k Apple TV) don't support lossless audio, and running 4k apps on your TV obviously never need to send a 4k video receiver through your TV.
eARC will definitely buy you some time, but the problem I have with thinking it will completely future-proof your receiver is that audio formats have changed/evolved (granted at a slower pace than video). Atmos/DTS:X is the most current example. Sure there will be more.
But not sure you ever needed to upgrade in the first place. AFAIK, the only device that would have 4k Video and lossless audio, would be a 4k blu-ray player.
Or any of the newer game consoles
And probably others I'm not thinking of at the moment
I'd only ever be interested in ever upgrading my current 7.2 setup to a 11.2 setup for adding 4 height channels. Are you guys saying that this could work without an additional amplifier? Have 500-series JBL speakers, I'm not trying to go crazy loud with them, but just want total immersive sound. Certainly not an expert here, just trying to figure out what's possible vs what's recommended.
listing says "The powerful DSP is capable of 11. 2 channel processing, allowing you to extend the system with an additional power amplifier."
I'd only ever be interested in ever upgrading my current 7.2 setup to a 11.2 setup for adding 4 height channels. Are you guys saying that this could work without an additional amplifier? Have 500-series JBL speakers, I'm not trying to go crazy loud with them, but just want total immersive sound. Certainly not an expert here, just trying to figure out what's possible vs what's recommended.
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I'm gonna miss the great deals. No more $249 Denon X2-00, $499 X3-00, or $749 X3-00 deals makes me
It just amazes me that Denon never bothers to updates it in what are supposed to be premium products. One of these years they'll improve it. They've had the same exact one for 5+ years.
The reason I keep coming back to Denon is Audyssey MultEQ; does any competitor have a product as good with speaker calibration?
Yes there are a few other competitors that are actually better.
They do come at a higher price and the learning curve on them are higher(much higher IMO).
Whether is worth the money and extra work is completely subjective.
IMO for the average person that just wants to run RC, XT32 works well.
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The reason I keep coming back to Denon is Audyssey MultEQ; does any competitor have a product as good with speaker calibration?
https://www.dirac.com/buy-product...r-partners
I used to love denon amps, but their current products (I just sold my X6500H which I got from amazon for $1,000) are crap. the sound quality was lacking compared to many other products I have used recently from Onkyo or Yamaha.
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