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10% off Oneida dust collection systems and accessories @ Woodcraft 11/15-11/17

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Woodcraft is running a pretty rare 10% discount on Oneida dust collection systems and accessories from now through the 17th (excludes special orders). Most of the time, Woodcraft discounts/coupons don't apply to Oneida

https://www.woodcraft.com/search?q=oneida+air
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Created 11-15-2019 at 09:08 AM by firedawg2154
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11-15-2019 at 07:31 PM.
11-15-2019 at 07:31 PM.
Almost pulled the trigger yesterday. Glad I waited!
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iLikeMild
11-16-2019 at 07:55 AM.
11-16-2019 at 07:55 AM.
Time to get the Dust Deputy!

CB site (TCB) offering 4%.

Edit: shipping is $13.

Edit 2: The site offers Free Shipping occasionally. That would be cheaper than the 10% off for this item. I can wait... so I wait.

49.99 - 10% = 44.99 + 12.99 shipping = $57.98
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MCalzone
11-16-2019 at 08:53 AM.
11-16-2019 at 08:53 AM.
Quote from iLikeMild :
Time to get the Dust Deputy!

CB site (TCB) offering 4%.

Edit: shipping is $13.

Edit 2: The site offers Free Shipping occasionally. That would be cheaper than the 10% off for this item. I can wait... so I wait.

49.99 - 10% = 44.99 + 12.99 shipping = $57.98

Right. Oneida is so overpriced for what essentially all plastic components, I have a hard pulling the trigger. I've been needing the 5" SDD just hard to spend $230 on that (vs what you get for that in tools).
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00dahc
11-16-2019 at 08:58 AM.
11-16-2019 at 08:58 AM.
Quote from TexasFil :
Right. Oneida is so overpriced for what essentially all plastic components, I have a hard pulling the trigger. I've been needing the 5" SDD just hard to spend $230 on that (vs what you get for that in tools).

Right. The iPhone is such a small device made of just plastic and metal with a little battery in it. Can't be more than $30 in materials in it, right? So how much should an iPhone cost?
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tofu.
11-16-2019 at 08:58 AM.
11-16-2019 at 08:58 AM.
The Chinese sell a well made knockoff of the $150 molded cyclone for like $30. I'm all for USA but can't bring myself to shell out an extra 400%
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11-16-2019 at 09:08 AM.
11-16-2019 at 09:08 AM.
Quote from 00dahc :
Right. The iPhone is such a small device made of just plastic and metal with a little battery in it. Can't be more than $30 in materials in it, right? So how much should an iPhone cost?

Can't tell if you're being sarcastic. The SDD is literally just plastic. No other materials. I'm an engineer and have sourced products before so I know the markup. The issue here is no direct competitors.
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11-16-2019 at 09:10 AM.
11-16-2019 at 09:10 AM.
Quote from tofu. :
The Chinese sell a well made knockoff of the $150 molded cyclone for like $30. I'm all for USA but can't bring myself to shell out an extra 400%

Have any name to search or links for reference so I can do some comparing/contrasting between the Oneida and other brands?
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00dahc
11-16-2019 at 09:24 AM.
11-16-2019 at 09:24 AM.
Quote from TexasFil :
Can't tell if you're being sarcastic. The SDD is literally just plastic. No other materials. I'm an engineer and have sourced products before so I know the markup. The issue here is no direct competitors.

As an "engineer", do you work for free? Or would you charge a fee for taking a little bit of plastic and turning into a useful product to market/sell? Hopefully the basic point is starting to sink in.
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tofu.
11-16-2019 at 09:25 AM.
11-16-2019 at 09:25 AM.
Quote from iLikeMild :
Have any name to search or links for reference so I can do some comparing/contrasting between the Oneida and other brands?

It's sold under several names. Not sure who the actual mfg is.

Look on AliExpress for "dust cyclone". Get the newest generation
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11-16-2019 at 09:42 AM.
11-16-2019 at 09:42 AM.
Quote from 00dahc :
As an "engineer", do you work for free? Or would you charge a fee for taking a little bit of plastic and turning into a useful product to market/sell? Hopefully the basic point is starting to sink in.

The SDD has been around for years, more than enough to pay for R&D, especially since that design has been scaled to other SKUs in the same product line. The cost of mold tooling is actually the largest expense and it's been covered by now or else it wouldn't have been launched in the first place.

If you want to make a comparison to the iPhone, sub $100 Androids are on the market. Or perhaps comparing the iPhone 8 vs 11 costs is a worthwhile debate. Then we can argue merits of build quality and chip performance.

My point was that, as a consumer, $240 is a lot for plastic when I can get a router or other woodworking tool with more components and built-in intelligence for the same spend (engineers got compensated for their time for those too). Or, as other people here are mentioning, get similar or "close enough" performance on AliExepess for 20%. So we should be debating quality or the merits of buying made in the US (if Oneida is), or even features.

I appreciate you educating me on the costs involved in product development. Clearly on SlickDeals we are only allowed to post "in for 3" instead of debating the merits of a product.
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11-16-2019 at 09:46 AM.
11-16-2019 at 09:46 AM.
Quote from TexasFil :
The SDD has been around for years, more than enough to pay for R&D, especially since that design has been scaled to other SKUs in the same product line. The cost of mold tooling is actually the largest expense and it's been covered by now or else it wouldn't have been launched in the first place.

If you want to make a comparison to the iPhone, sub $100 Androids are on the market. Or perhaps comparing the iPhone 8 vs 11 costs is a worthwhile debate. Then we can argue merits of build quality and chip performance.

My point was that, as a consumer, $240 is a lot for plastic when I can get a router or other woodworking tool with more components and built-in intelligence for the same spend (engineers got compensated for their time for those too). Or, as other people here are mentioning, get similar or "close enough" performance on AliExepess for 20%. So we should be debating quality or the merits of buying made in the US (if Oneida is), or even features.

I appreciate you educating me on the costs involved in product development. Clearly on SlickDeals we are only allowed to post "in for 3" instead of debating the merits of a product.

Sounds like you should start taking pieces of plastic and selling them as dust separators! You're going to be rich. Even better, you can decide what your plastic chunks are worth. Your advice devalues the job of an American engineer, good thing you're fine with working for free. Good luck!
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ben_r_
11-18-2019 at 08:56 AM.
11-18-2019 at 08:56 AM.
Quote from tofu. :
It's sold under several names. Not sure who the actual mfg is.

Look on AliExpress for "dust cyclone". Get the newest generation
Wow, thats crazy! I found one on there for $12. lol


That said, Im a big Oneida fan. Got their black Dust Deputy on a black steel 5 gallon bucket and a V-3000 with 6 drops all using their metal ducting and flex hose. I did build my own dust bin level sensor and filter efficiency gauge as they were just overpricing very cheap components. I also bought a few years ago before their recent price jumps and stacked a couple discounts on all the parts. So yea these days, Im not sure I would have spent their asking prices. They went up a lot!
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