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KT-KMC via Amazon has 2-Pack KMC 4 Outlet WiFi Mini Smart Plug w/ Energy Monitoring on sale for $20.79. Shipping is free w/ Prime or on $25+ orders. Thanks JMBauer74

Note, in stock on December 26, 2019.

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KMC 4 Outlet WiFi Smart Plug (2 Pack). Compatible with Alexa, Google Home, & IFTTT. $20.79 on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/KMC-Monito...=8-13&th=1 In stock Dec. 25
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The unit is approximately 1"Depth, 2 " Width, 4" Height. On my outlet, it starts at about 1 cm above the bottom of the outlet and stops at the top of the outlet. Photos attached.
I initially bought two of these, and when I went to get a third, Amazon had them OOS for about a month because of a manufacturing issue. When it was corrected, they were back in stock, and I ended up purchasing three more since then. So now I have five and they seem to work fine. I was actually ordering more today and I noticed the two-pack had a good deal, which is why I posted.

My first two literally paid for themselves within two months. Not only was it easier to kill the power, but I could also check how much electricity each tap was drawing.

Just a tip for anybody getting these. Here is a quick and easy way to set them up. No matter how many you bought, go near your Internet router. Load the app and plug in the unit. Hold down the power button until it's rapidly flashing, then "add device" on app, and choose "socket" manually. Pick Wi-Fi name and your password. Set all of your devices all on the same tap near your router, then move them around your home afterwards. The reason I'm saying this is they will establish the connection and load faster if you do them all near the router. Good luck.
Have five of these and went to order some more and noticed they had the two pack available for a good price, so grabbed four more. Really brought my electric bill down and have paid for themselves already. You can monitor the power being drawn on a tap and shut them off easily when you're not using them.

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cantalup
12-17-2019 at 05:20 PM.
12-17-2019 at 05:20 PM.
Quote from cgigate :
read my review with photo on amazon
https://www.amazon.com/product-re...filter-bar



The one KMC's "Made in China" actually was sold built.
Later on Vietnam made are so bad.
Either way is washout on my knowledege
I has made in chinese. Need to resoldering the connectors and pcb parts in AC lines.

Mine is cracking now. Due to heay my guessing

Price does not lie heheheh
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geniv
12-18-2019 at 10:56 PM.
12-18-2019 at 10:56 PM.
just got mine. orderd both.

both looked used and returned. I'm going to return it not risking my stuff on it.
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Relik
12-23-2019 at 06:29 PM.
12-23-2019 at 06:29 PM.
For anyone left who's interested, I received my replacement from KMC after contacting them earlier about my failed unit purchased in August 2019. This is a great sign as it hopefully shows they will stand behind their 1 year warranty.

This gives me the opportunity to post before and after pictures to show what is needed to beef this unit up so that it actually supports the 15 amp current rating that's advertised. This is a Vietnam made unit, but I was pleasantly surprised that the quality of this one is better than my failed Chinese unit. It came with the latest 1.0.5 firmware installed so it's harder to put alternative firmware on it.

Pictures 1 & 2 show the unit taken apart. Picture 3 & 4 show the circuit board trace that is carrying the current. Picture 5 shows it after adding additional solder.

My guess at current rating with the board as it is from the factory is the following : Switch 1, 5A Switch 2, 7A, Switch 3, 10A [Edit: Scratch that, looking again I can barely say 7A for Switch 3, the trace just gets too small]. Always put your highest load on Switch 3 since it's closest to the mains on the board. If a had a free one of these for testing I would do a load test and get confirmed values, although the time the load runs is also important.

If you add solder to make it similar to my Picture 5, then it should handle 15A total across the outlets although to be safe put your lowest load on Switch 1.

What's your opinion cantalup?
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cgigate
12-23-2019 at 07:33 PM.
12-23-2019 at 07:33 PM.
Quote from Relik :
For anyone left who's interested, I received my replacement from KMC after contacting them earlier about my failed unit purchased in August 2019. This is a great sign as it hopefully shows they will stand behind their 1 year warranty.

This gives me the opportunity to post before and after pictures to show what is needed to beef this unit up so that it actually supports the 15 amp current rating that's advertised. This is a Vietnam made unit, but I was pleasantly surprised that the quality of this one is better than my failed Chinese unit. It came with the latest 1.0.5 firmware installed so it's harder to put alternative firmware on it.

Pictures 1 & 2 show the unit taken apart. Picture 3 & 4 show the circuit board trace that is carrying the current. Picture 5 shows it after adding additional solder.

My guess at current rating with the board as it is from the factory is the following : Switch 1, 5A Switch 2, 7A, Switch 3, 10A [Edit: Scratch that, looking again I can barely say 7A for Switch 3, the trace just gets too small]. Always put your highest load on Switch 3 since it's closest to the mains on the board. If a had a free one of these for testing I would do a load test and get confirmed values, although the time the load runs is also important.

If you add solder to make it similar to my Picture 5, then it should handle 15A total across the outlets although to be safe put your lowest load on Switch 1.

What's your opinion cantalup?

The load depends on the relays. It labels as 15A/each on it
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Relik
12-24-2019 at 08:07 AM.
12-24-2019 at 08:07 AM.
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The load depends on the relays. It labels as 15A/each on it
No, it's not just the relays. If the load goes through the equivalent of a 20 gauge wire in one area, you now have to derate it because it will burn out there first. If you go back in this thread, I state how my first unit failed after running a 10 amp load on it before I opened it up. It was running it on Switch 1 which is the farthest along that crosshatch grid trace. The trace was scorched in one section, but I didn't take a picture of it before I repaired it. Even after repair the unit was dead in other ways (reboots or locks up randomly, power monitoring no longer works).

Crosshatch patterns like this are terrible for current flow. They are only supposed to be used for ground planes or impedance control. What happens in this type of pattern is that intersections burn out one at a time until there is nothing left. A wire does not do that because all strands of a wire are the the same length from the source to destination. No strand is shorter and thus lower resistance causing increased current on that pathway.

Read the Amazon reviews, numerous other people have had the same result.
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cgigate
12-24-2019 at 09:17 AM.
12-24-2019 at 09:17 AM.
Quote from Relik :
No, it's not just the relays. If the load goes through the equivalent of a 20 gauge wire in one area, you now have to derate it because it will burn out there first. If you go back in this thread, I state how my first unit failed after running a 10 amp load on it before I opened it up. It was running it on Switch 1 which is the farthest along that crosshatch grid trace. The trace was scorched in one section, but I didn't take a picture of it before I repaired it. Even after repair the unit was dead in other ways (reboots or locks up randomly, power monitoring no longer works).

Crosshatch patterns like this are terrible for current flow. They are only supposed to be used for ground planes or impedance control. What happens in this type of pattern is that intersections burn out one at a time until there is nothing left. A wire does not do that because all strands of a wire are the the same length from the source to destination. No strand is shorter and thus lower resistance causing increased current on that pathway.

Read the Amazon reviews, numerous other people have had the same result.
your are in fake theories .
I am using full load 15A for more than half hour a day every day
(connect with induction stove 1800W).
The only thing is matter is the 15A relay. Forgot your gauge theroy on the paper to be in the real world
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Relik
12-24-2019 at 09:48 AM.
12-24-2019 at 09:48 AM.
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your are in fake theories
If you don't know anything about electrical engineering, maybe you shouldn't comment. You can do whatever you want, I let my pictures speak for themselves. That is all.
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cgigate
12-24-2019 at 09:50 AM.
12-24-2019 at 09:50 AM.
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If you don't know anything about electrical engineering, maybe you shouldn't comment. You can do whatever you want, I let my pictures speak for themselves. That is all.

I am doing reality test.
I own Master Degree in E.E.
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Relik
12-24-2019 at 10:25 AM.
12-24-2019 at 10:25 AM.
Are you sure you are responding in the right thread, because you previously said on page 9:
Quote from cgigate :
Good deal, if it does not burns down your house.
the terrible assembly work
and on page 10 you responded to a challenge about your fire remark that you have pictures of it on Amazon:
Quote from cgigate :
read my review with photo on amazon
https://www.amazon.com/product-re...filter-bar [amazon.com]

The one KMC's "Made in China" actually was sold built.
Later on Vietnam made are so bad.
All of these new units are Made in Vietnam, including mine, which you stated are "so bad".

First it's going to burn down your house, now you say you use it daily with 1800W. If you made a mistake, now is the time to say so. Archives in case you decide to delete your comments from 1 week ago. Page 9: http://archive.is/diS13 Page 10: http://archive.is/YoTNZ

I posted my opinion which is that these units are unfit for 15A from the factory but can be repaired to be safe. Readers can decide for themselves what to make of other's opinions.

You can see I actually had thumbed up your response about the poorly made Vietnam models and now you are fighting with me over their quality
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The only thing is matter is the 15A relay. Forgot your gauge theroy on the paper to be in the real world
I own Master Degree in E.E.
X - Doubt
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pdwiki
12-30-2019 at 11:32 PM.
12-30-2019 at 11:32 PM.
This deal is available again. Just ordered another 2 pack for the same price.
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Relik
01-06-2020 at 01:38 PM.
01-06-2020 at 01:38 PM.
2 pack available again (February delivery). Get it quick because it usually doesn't last.

EDIT: Bought 2 pack, only received 1. They are sending another but that's it for me. Frown
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