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Acronis True Image 2020 - 1 PC/MAC $12.99 FS AC @ Newegg (seems to be Standard perpetual version)

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This seems to be the Standard perpetual version, not the Advanced yearly sub, as the listing says "One-time purchase" which is what Acronis puts under the Standard heading. While the MSRP on the page is $49.99, which is what the Advanced lists for on the Acronis site (Standard lists for $59.99), the Model # listed is TIH3B2ENS, which B&H Photo lists as the Perpetual, so I'm leaning that way.

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Anyone have a second opinion on this? I hate (deceptive) subscription software. Thanks!
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If this is perpetical version 1 time this is a great deal. And I just jumped from ATI 2012 to 2019. 2 Months ago....
This seems to be 1 year subscription.. From New Egg reviews. Hard pass if that is the case.
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Is this historically flaming piece of cow dung software any better in 2020? Past versions have been horrible and I speak from experience.

EDIT: Nope. 40% 1 star reviews. PASS!!

https://www.amazon.com/product-re...geNumber=1
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Is this historically flaming piece of cow dung software any better in 2020? Past versions have been horrible and I speak from experience.

EDIT: Nope. 40% 1 star reviews. PASS!!

https://www.amazon.com/product-re...geNumber=1
Read his review. Prob. user error he created the boot flash but may not has booted from it to backup, DUH, since the errors look like they came from Windows. Which you should not be running to back up or clone the drive since windows files will be lock down. Another tell tale is after 12 hr which even with usb2 speed (should have connect using SATA) should have taken half that long for that drive- since he replaced same capacity mean it has spaces left. Essentially a Tb backup if that.

Cloning a drive is a simple affair. Its why most of them without graphical interface is only 1 or 2 meg long. Decades ago I was able to write assembly program to read a system file then encrypted and put it in another blocks of the disk hidden from win95 OS within the hour just to prove to the classmates that win95 was not as secure as MS said.

But with only 14 reviews the samples pool is not to be trusted anyway.
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Purely FWIW...

I have avoided Acronis because of its overly complicated installation -- too much impact on Windows & too much that could go wrong. Looking at the features of their 2020 version there's a couple of things that I thought might be useful, so I monitored the installation of their trial in a win7 32-bit VM. Well, they managed to make the installation worse. As tuan2 noted, disk/partition image &/or cloning software has no need to be all that complicated. I don't think if Acronis 2020 was coded properly it would need to store a nearly 1 GB .msi file in Windows\ Installer. Beyond that it adds thousands of new registry entries and installs Bonjour, which I'd rather avoid.

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There are lots of disk/partition image backup apps out there, & every one I've tested works -- again it's not that hard to write these apps using Windows VSS. Where most have problems is with the bootable USB sticks they create -- Microsoft acknowledges problems booting WinPE nowadays. Macrium is considered the best in that regard. The other big problem is people using external USB drives to store backup archives -- whether from lack of active cooling or cheap/poor quality electronics they often fail during sustained max speed file transfer, e.g. restoring a backup. If you expect to rely on something in case of disaster, test it to make sure it works!
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Anyone have a second opinion on this? I hate (deceptive) subscription software. Thanks!
From the Newegg reviews: "Not mad about the purchase, but the NewEgg description didn't say it was a yearly sub."
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From the Newegg reviews: "Not mad about the purchase, but the NewEgg description didn't say it was a yearly sub."
They list it as "One time purchase", which is how Acronis lists the Standard on their site, and there is no way to explain a *yearly subscription* as a "one time purchase".

So if the copies I ordered end up being Advanced, I'll just tell them I'm going to file a claim with my CC and that I won't buy from them again. Then they can either ship me Standard or eat the charges.
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Model: TIH3B2ENS seems to be one time purchase.
Model: TIH3B2ENS-ESD seems to be the 1 year sub script?
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Purely FWIW...

I have avoided Acronis because of its overly complicated installation -- too much impact on Windows & too much that could go wrong. Looking at the features of their 2020 version there's a couple of things that I thought might be useful, so I monitored the installation of their trial in a win7 32-bit VM. Well, they managed to make the installation worse. As tuan2 noted, disk/partition image &/or cloning software has no need to be all that complicated. I don't think if Acronis 2020 was coded properly it would need to store a nearly 1 GB .msi file in Windows\ Installer. Beyond that it adds thousands of new registry entries and installs Bonjour, which I'd rather avoid.

Also just FWIW...
There are lots of disk/partition image backup apps out there, & every one I've tested works -- again it's not that hard to write these apps using Windows VSS. Where most have problems is with the bootable USB sticks they create -- Microsoft acknowledges problems booting WinPE nowadays. Macrium is considered the best in that regard. The other big problem is people using external USB drives to store backup archives -- whether from lack of active cooling or cheap/poor quality electronics they often fail during sustained max speed file transfer, e.g. restoring a backup. If you expect to rely on something in case of disaster, test it to make sure it works!
Any software suggestions to use for disk imaging to swap out my hd to ssd sata drive? Macrium? Link? Thanks.
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Purely FWIW...

I have avoided Acronis because of its overly complicated installation -- too much impact on Windows & too much that could go wrong. Looking at the features of their 2020 version there's a couple of things that I thought might be useful, so I monitored the installation of their trial in a win7 32-bit VM. Well, they managed to make the installation worse. As tuan2 noted, disk/partition image &/or cloning software has no need to be all that complicated. I don't think if Acronis 2020 was coded properly it would need to store a nearly 1 GB .msi file in Windows\ Installer. Beyond that it adds thousands of new registry entries and installs Bonjour, which I'd rather avoid.

Also just FWIW...
There are lots of disk/partition image backup apps out there, & every one I've tested works -- again it's not that hard to write these apps using Windows VSS. Where most have problems is with the bootable USB sticks they create -- Microsoft acknowledges problems booting WinPE nowadays. Macrium is considered the best in that regard. The other big problem is people using external USB drives to store backup archives -- whether from lack of active cooling or cheap/poor quality electronics they often fail during sustained max speed file transfer, e.g. restoring a backup. If you expect to rely on something in case of disaster, test it to make sure it works!
Sounds like a user limitation there. Been using Acronis for over a decade without an issue. I don't think we should blame a tool if you haven't mastered how to use it.
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Any software suggestions to use for disk imaging to swap out my hd to ssd sata drive? Macrium? Link? Thanks.
For just a simple clone from HD to SSD, any of them will work fine, and Macrium Reflect is very popular because it works well.

The only reason I went for Acronis this time was because I need Universal Restore to move between disparate systems, and all the "free" software requires their paid versions to do so, at $40 or so. Otherwise, I'd have used Macrium.

EDIT: I forgot to mention, some of the better SSDs come with cloning software.
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For just a simple clone from HD to SSD, any of them will work fine, and Macrium Reflect is very popular because it works well.

The only reason I went for Acronis this time was because I need Universal Restore to move between disparate systems, and all the "free" software requires their paid versions to do so, at $40 or so. Otherwise, I'd have used Macrium.

EDIT: I forgot to mention, some of the better SSDs come with cloning software.
Thanks. I just got the acronis. Hopefully this will be less of a hassle to use than the free version. Thanks.
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For just a simple clone from HD to SSD, any of them will work fine, and Macrium Reflect is very popular because it works well.

The only reason I went for Acronis this time was because I need Universal Restore to move between disparate systems, and all the "free" software requires their paid versions to do so, at $40 or so. Otherwise, I'd have used Macrium.

EDIT: I forgot to mention, some of the better SSDs come with cloning software.
Is there something that can move my disk of my broken computer with its operating system and software to another computer? The hardware and drivers would be different. Would the new pc be able to pick it up and install the new drivers for it? Thanks.
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Any software suggestions to use for disk imaging to swap out my hd to ssd sata drive? Macrium? Link? Thanks.
macrium[.]com/reflectfree *Unless the SSD is NVMe*

Info has to be added to the Windows BCD boot files for the boot loader to see an NVMe drive. The Macrium paid version or Paragon Hard Disk Mgr. Advanced can create a bootable USB stick that includes migration & boot repair tools that will work, & Samsung provides a tool if you buy one of their NVMe drives. Paragon's cheaper, but the gotcha is that it likes to modify the boot files when you restore a backup or perform a clone. When I migrated from a conventional HDD to an NVME I used Macrium Reflect Free to move the files, & the Paragon bootable USB stick to get it working.
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