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Adobe Creative Cloud Photography plan 20 GB (Photoshop + Lightroom) | 12-month Subscription with auto-renewal, PC/Mac. $98.88 at Amazon

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  • Editing– Desktop focused editing with Lightroom Classic
  • Organization - Includes file-based catalog management
  • Existing subscribers must first complete current membership term before linking new subscription term
  • Storage - With 20 GB of storage, enough to get you started to aess, edit and securely back up your full resolution photos from anywhere, anywhere on any device with Adobe Photoshop Lightroom
  • Additional Map, Book, Print, and Web modules for publishing workflows and sharing with Adobe Spark and Portfolio
  • Photoshop – transform your photos to anything you can imagine

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Don't ever succumb to the scumbag subscription that is Adobe
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Don't ever succumb to the scumbag subscription that is Adobe
Is there an alternative software / service that can be used instead of Adobe professionally?
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Is there an alternative software / service that can be used instead of Adobe professionally?
Davinci Resolve and Affinity Suite
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Don't ever succumb to the scumbag subscription that is Adobe
Unfortunately many professionals are stuck with Adobe. Hate adobe as you may, I think the deal is a good one, saving about $20 off subscriptions. You can redeem the digital reward credits from No Rush shipping to sweeten the deal a bit.
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With affinity and resolve no need to tie your self to adobe subscription also darktable is a good but still slow alternative to lr
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Don't ever succumb to the scumbag subscription that is Adobe
I'm generally anti-sub but really we've pretty much all embraced the model. For example, who still purchases standalone Microsoft products? (other than maybe students)

Compared to the standalone costs for these particular products, $100-120/yr is actually not bad as it equates to about 8+ years of use vs a one-time cost that would typically require upgrade costs every 2-3 years minimum.

I don't actually have one of these subs, but have been thinking about it just for Lightroom as an amateur photographer. Figure if I'm going to bother learning some new software, might as well be within a fairly ubiquitous ecosystem.

My only real hesitation is trying to sort out whether these cloud-based subs mean that all my photos that are indexed will also exist on someone else's servers.
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I'm generally anti-sub but really we've pretty much all embraced the model. For example, who still purchases standalone Microsoft products? (other than maybe students)

Compared to the standalone costs for these particular products, $100-120/yr is actually not bad as it equates to about 8+ years of use vs a one-time cost that would typically require upgrade costs every 2-3 years minimum.

I don't actually have one of these subs, but have been thinking about it just for Lightroom as an amateur photographer. Figure if I'm going to bother learning some new software, might as well be within a fairly ubiquitous ecosystem.

My only real hesitation is trying to sort out whether these cloud-based subs mean that all my photos that are indexed will also exist on someone else's servers.
I'm sorry what? $100-$120/yr for eight years is better than a one-time payment? That's no competition. And by "upgrade costs every 2-3 years minimum", if you're talking about the hardware, then that's a hard no as well. A GTX 980 (a GPU released in 2014) will still crush Premier Pro in 2019, so for Lightroom, even a basic entry-level GPU should see one through for that long AT LEAST.

Coming to you, you are right about that its become standard now, so there's nothing else to it. Adobe offer's a Photography bundle For $10/mon, includes Photoshop and Lightroom. That might be the deal for you.

If you're not making money (i.e. you're shooting for yourself/not commercially), a free (and open-source) Photoshop alternative you could try is GIMP. It's a bit rough around the edges compared to PS, but is definitely superior to LR. I use it myself and for the tasks that LR usually does, GIMP's learning curve is not THAT steep. It's also extremely light, and doesn't need killer hardware to do 90% of the things PS needs a massive GPU to do, so you could dabble a little bit in that as well
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I'm sorry what? $100-$120/yr for eight years is better than a one-time payment? That's no competition. And by "upgrade costs every 2-3 years minimum", if you're talking about the hardware, then that's a hard no as well. A GTX 980 (a GPU released in 2014) will still crush Premier Pro in 2019, so for Lightroom, even a basic entry-level GPU should see one through for that long AT LEAST.

Coming to you, you are right about that its become standard now, so there's nothing else to it. Adobe offer's a Photography bundle For $10/mon, includes Photoshop and Lightroom. That might be the deal for you.

If you're not making money (i.e. you're shooting for yourself/not commercially), a free (and open-source) Photoshop alternative you could try is GIMP. It's a bit rough around the edges compared to PS, but is definitely superior to LR. I use it myself and for the tasks that LR usually does, GIMP's learning curve is not THAT steep. It's also extremely light, and doesn't need killer hardware to do 90% of the things PS needs a massive GPU to do, so you could dabble a little bit in that as well
What the comment above yours is referring to as the "one time cost" is that the cost of Photoshop alone used to be $600 for the license with an upgrade cost of $200. Factor in constant upgrades and multiple products like Lightroom, the old cost for a product made it too costly for the amateur to dabble and adopt it. This caused most amateurs to pirate their software.

What most people were worried about when Adobe switched to the subscription model was that Adobe would increase the costs for the subscriptions.

If you don't see the value of Adobe, don't adopt it as there are many alternative. For professionals, time is money so their workflow and familiarity will increase their efficiency to the point that the cost of these subscriptions would be worth it.
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Thanks OP.

Probably goes without saying for this audience, but you can buy more than one of these yearly subs and load them all into your account at once, extending your sub for as many years as your budget allows. Eventually Adobe will have another rate increase (last one went from $100/yr to the current $120/yr as I recall) and if you've stocked up on these "discounted" subs now, it'll save you some bucks at that time also.
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I own a studio and have paid hundreds thousands dollars for products like these since the start of my company, to eventually realize that when you buy software from these big companies like adobe or autodesk only a very small percent of you money goes to the actual software development because of the scale of these companies admin and sales departments and marketing budgets, for last few years I have been doing my best to purchase software from smaller companies like affinity and I have been really happy with their progress
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I own a studio and have paid hundreds thousands dollars for products like these since the start of my company, to eventually realize that when you buy software from these big companies like adobe or autodesk only a very small percent of you money goes to the actual software development because of the scale of these companies admin and sales departments and marketing budgets, for last few years I have been doing my best to purchase software from smaller companies like affinity and I have been really happy with their progress
Affinity is just fantastic, been using it for a year, wouldn't fathom giving it up for a subscription. Affinity Photo/Designer/Publisher nearly as powerful as the Adobe equivalents and I think I got all 3 licenses for close to $100 during their sale.

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Davinci Resolve and Affinity Suite
Does that provide a Lightroom replacement?
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Does that provide a Lightroom replacement?
On its way I believe. I tried to Google that myself a couple days ago, didn't get very far, but yeah LRs functionality should be here already or soon to be.
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On its way I believe. I tried to Google that myself a couple days ago, didn't get very far, but yeah LRs functionality should be here already or soon to be.
Hopefully. 2 years ago the company said they were working on Lightroom-type software with speculation it would be ready in 2018.

Lightroom is my main holdup. I have some of Serif's software but without a good Lightroom alternative, it's not worth switching away from the $10 / month photo plan. It works out to close to free with credit card credits (particular BofA card that offers $25 per quarter) so for an effective cost of $20 a year there's not a lot of incentive for me to switch away from Photoshop and Lightroom.
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