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DuroMax 13000-Watt Gasoline/Propane Portable Generator ($971 w/ 10% Discount) OR $1079

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This regularly sells for around $1400.
This seems to stack with the 10% military/veteran discount (worked for me by ordering online).

Duromax XP13000EH Generator
Dual Fuel Gasoline / Propane

Confirmed to work with Generlink 40A Meter Mounted Transfer Switch!!!

GASOLINE
PEAK WATTS 13,000
RUNNING WATTS 10,500
PEAK AMPS @ 120V 108.00
RUNNING AMPS @120V 87.50
PEAK AMPS @ 240V 54
RUNNING AMPS @ 240V 43.75

PROPANE
PEAK WATTS 12,350
RUNNING WATTS 9,975
PEAK AMPS @ 120V 103.00
RUNNING AMPS @ 120V 83.13
PEAK AMPS @ 240V 51.50
RUNNING AMPS @ 240V 41.56

AMPERAGE 43.75A / 87.5A
VOLTAGE 120V / 240VAC & 12VDC
FREQUENCY 60Hz
HORSEPOWER 20HP
ENGINE SIZE 500cc
ENGINE TYPE 4-CYCLE AIR-COOLED SPARK-IGNITION
ENGINE SPEED 3600RPM
FUEL TYPE GASOLINE / PROPANE
FUEL TANK CAPACITY (GASOLINE) 8.3 GALLONS
SUGGESTED TANK SIZE (PROPANE) 40 LBS
RUNTIME (GASOLINE) AT 1/2 LOAD 8.5 HOURS
RUNTIME (PROPANE) AT 1/2 LOAD 6.5 HOURS
START TYPE ELECTRIC / RECOIL
VOLUME LEVEL 74dB
EPA CERTIFIED YES
CARB CERTIFIED YES
CSA CERTIFIED NO
PRODUCT DIMENSIONS 40" L x 29.5" W x 27.5" H
PRODUCT WEIGHT 260LBS
UPC 811640015725

For those of you interested in running this off of Natural Gas I have been in touch with Century Fuel Products and they informed me this tri-fuel kit should work with the engine/carb for the XP13000EH:
https://centuryfuelproducts.com/s...ersion-kit
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https://www.lowes.com/pd/DuroMax-...1000842388

This regularly sells for around $1400.
This seems to stack with the 10% military/veteran discount (worked for me by ordering online).

Duromax XP13000EH Generator
Dual Fuel Gasoline / Propane

Confirmed to work with Generlink 40A Meter Mounted Transfer Switch!!!

GASOLINE
PEAK WATTS 13,000
RUNNING WATTS 10,500
PEAK AMPS @ 120V 108.00
RUNNING AMPS @120V 87.50
PEAK AMPS @ 240V 54
RUNNING AMPS @ 240V 43.75

PROPANE
PEAK WATTS 12,350
RUNNING WATTS 9,975
PEAK AMPS @ 120V 103.00
RUNNING AMPS @ 120V 83.13
PEAK AMPS @ 240V 51.50
RUNNING AMPS @ 240V 41.56

AMPERAGE 43.75A / 87.5A
VOLTAGE 120V / 240VAC & 12VDC
FREQUENCY 60Hz
HORSEPOWER 20HP
ENGINE SIZE 500cc
ENGINE TYPE 4-CYCLE AIR-COOLED SPARK-IGNITION
ENGINE SPEED 3600RPM
FUEL TYPE GASOLINE / PROPANE
FUEL TANK CAPACITY (GASOLINE) 8.3 GALLONS
SUGGESTED TANK SIZE (PROPANE) 40 LBS
RUNTIME (GASOLINE) AT 1/2 LOAD 8.5 HOURS
RUNTIME (PROPANE) AT 1/2 LOAD 6.5 HOURS
START TYPE ELECTRIC / RECOIL
VOLUME LEVEL 74dB
EPA CERTIFIED YES
CARB CERTIFIED YES
CSA CERTIFIED NO
PRODUCT DIMENSIONS 40" L x 29.5" W x 27.5" H
PRODUCT WEIGHT 260LBS
UPC 811640015725

For those of you interested in running this off of Natural Gas I have been in touch with Century Fuel Products and they informed me this tri-fuel kit should work with the engine/carb for the XP13000EH:
https://centuryfuelproducts.com/s...ersion-kit

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Apr 02, 2020 03:55 PM
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Apr 02, 2020 04:39 PM
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lotsalotsadealsApr 02, 2020 04:39 PM
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This is literally a gas Guzzler!
8.3 Gals/8.5hours @ 1/2 load


Heres a More efficient 12500w unit 6.6 gals/12 hours 1/2 load
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Westingh...1001107128
Apr 02, 2020 04:45 PM
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einsfahrtApr 02, 2020 04:45 PM
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Quote from lotsalotsadeals :
This is literally a gas Guzzler!
8.3 Gals/8.5hours @ 1/2 load


Heres a More efficient 12500w unit 6.6 gals/12 hours 1/2 load
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Westingh...1001107128
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Quote from lotsalotsadeals :
This is literally a gas Guzzler!
8.3 Gals/8.5hours @ 1/2 load


Heres a More efficient 12500w unit 6.6 gals/12 hours 1/2 load
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Westingh...1001107128 [lowes.com]
The generator you're comparing has a smaller engine and produces less wattage both peak and continuous - it makes sense it would be more efficient....
The unit you're comparing to has a 457cc engine. The XP13000EH is a 500cc.
Your comparison would be more appropriate to the XP12000EH with the 457cc engine:
https://www.duromaxpower.com/prod...-generator

You should consider the amperage output (for 120 and 240V depending on your use) for both gasoline/propane at peak and running wattage. The "efficiency" or fuel used over a certain period of time only tells half the story...
Last edited by CoreyR4927 April 2, 2020 at 10:04 AM.
Apr 02, 2020 05:03 PM
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unksolApr 02, 2020 05:03 PM
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Quote from CoreyR4927 :
The generator you're comparing has a smaller engine and produces less wattage both peak and continuous - it makes sense it would be more efficient....
The unit you're comparing to has a 457cc engine. The XP13000EH is a 500cc.
Your comparison would be more appropriate to the XP12000EH with the 457cc engine:
https://www.duromaxpower.com/prod...-generator
And the specs are basically the same as far as fuel usage. 8.83 gallons for 8.83 hours. 6.6 gallons for 12 hours is definitely way more efficient. And available from amazon for the same price as lowes with free shipping.

https://www.amazon.com/Westinghou...B07Q1DLKBG
Apr 02, 2020 05:09 PM
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JoshBuyingApr 02, 2020 05:09 PM
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I used to buy these on Ebay for $500 when they go on sale. Ran them on propane to augment the solar charging at the farm when the sun is at the wrong side of the valley in winter. Not bad, as long you don't get a problematic one.
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Quote from unksol :
And the specs are basically the same as far as fuel usage. 8.83 gallons for 8.83 hours. 6.6 gallons for 12 hours is definitely way more efficient. And available from amazon for the same price as lowes with free shipping.

https://www.amazon.com/Westinghou...B07Q1DLKBG [amazon.com]
If you're that concerned with efficiency you should opt for one with EFI...
Unless an engine is running at a considerably lower RPM I doubt you would see a drastic real world difference in efficiency wit h all other variables being equal.

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Apr 02, 2020 05:15 PM
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lotsalotsadealsApr 02, 2020 05:15 PM
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Quote from CoreyR4927 :
The generator you're comparing has a smaller engine and produces less wattage both peak and continuous - it makes sense it would be more efficient....
The unit you're comparing to has a 457cc engine. The XP13000EH is a 500cc.
Your comparison would be more appropriate to the XP12000EH with the 457cc engine:
https://www.duromaxpower.com/prod...-generator
Most communities allow LEGAL Storage of 10-25 gallons(some less)
8.3gallons per 6.6 hours gets you 19.8 hours of runtime for 25 Gallons

With the one you mention.XP12000EH
STILL A GAS GUZZLER.
8Gal capacity Run Time at 1/2 Load (Hours) 8.83

Just proves my point...How INEFFICIENT these units really are.Peace
Last edited by lotsalotsadeals April 2, 2020 at 10:17 AM.
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Apr 02, 2020 05:17 PM
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lotsalotsadealsApr 02, 2020 05:17 PM
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Quote from CoreyR4927 :
If you're that concerned with efficiency you should opt for one with EFI...
Unless an engine is running at a considerably lower RPM I doubt you would see a drastic real world difference in efficiency wit h all other variables being equal.
In REAL World usage - Hurricanes for example
It makes a HUGE Difference.
First hand experience.
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BenjaminB6518Apr 02, 2020 07:18 PM
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Quote from lotsalotsadeals :
This is literally a gas Guzzler!
8.3 Gals/8.5hours @ 1/2 load


Heres a More efficient 12500w unit 6.6 gals/12 hours 1/2 load
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Westingh...1001107128

I have a different Duromax that is rated 4 gallons/8 hours @ 1/2 load. In the real world, I got 13 hours consistently. I was running (4) 25 cubic foot freezers on it (among other things), so surely I was using at least 1/2 load. It could be those specs aren't accurate.

BTW, I was sharing the generator with another family for the 9 days we had no power after Sandy. For the most part, we took a 1/2 day each, so my freezers were not powered on the other 1/2 of the day - so you can bet that when they were on the generator, the compressors were running most of the time.

Regardless, if you are buying one of these, make sure you have adequate fuel storage, because when the power is out at your home, it's probably out at the nearby gas stations also. If you will be travelling hours to buy gas, and waiting on mile long lines like we did in the Sandy aftermath, you'll want to minimize the number of trips you'll need to make.

If you think you'll be syphoning gas from your car gas tank for your generator, if your car is a Honda, think again. Honda's (we found out the hard way) have a something between the filler neck and gas tank that prevents you from getting the syphon hose into the gas tank.
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unksolApr 02, 2020 07:42 PM
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Quote from BenjaminB6518 :
I have a different Duromax that is rated 4 gallons/8 hours @ 1/2 load. In the real world, I got 13 hours consistently. I was running (4) 25 cubic foot freezers on it (among other things), so surely I was using at least 1/2 load. It could be those specs aren't accurate.

BTW, I was sharing the generator with another family for the 9 days we had no power after Sandy. For the most part, we took a 1/2 day each, so my freezers were not powered on the other 1/2 of the day - so you can bet that when they were on the generator, the compressors were running most of the time.
Chest freezers use very little power. And hold temp very well especially if they are full. Thats really not much of a load. You're talking maybe a couple KW with them all on.
Apr 02, 2020 08:41 PM
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dbbcooperApr 02, 2020 08:41 PM
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freezers are rarely on
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I think the takeaway here is that the Westinghouse generators also seem to be a great product and have a good following.

Do you believe the fuel ratings that a vehicle manufacturer publishes or do you rely on some other sources (fuelly, personal experience, friends, etc - real world examples)?

The point is that any manufacturer has a vested interest to publish great specs...and i'm not saying they are incorrect. I'm simply saying - think for yourself.

There is no "standard" as far as i'm aware for the testing of efficiency with a generator. Example; oil weights, altitudes, octane ratings, stability of the test load, environmental temperature, could all affect the performance.
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elohelApr 04, 2020 03:32 PM
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I looked into duromax previously and there seems to be a lot of people out there that are unhappy with the product. Maybe it's unfounded, I don't know, but it was enough to make me look elsewhere.

For anyone interested in a generator to backup their home in an emergency, I have been extremely pleased with the firman one often on sale at costco. It's 7500W dual fuel (this is a must IMO, gas isn't always available in an emergency or outage) that goes as low as $500 on sale at costco (I got it for $550). It runs my entire ~2k sq ft house (boiler system, A/C, 2 fridges, lights, TV, etc., obv not all at once) flawlessly. No flickering lights, starts right up, etc. Best part is that Costco is great about returns and assured me that if I ever had an issue with it, they would simply take it back or let me exchange it for a new one if they still have them in stock.

Just an idea if you're looking for a generator.

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WooHoo2YouApr 04, 2020 04:20 PM
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I have the 10KW version and has worked great over the past hour years powering my house during power outages. I obviously don't run the AC but everything else in my house works works.

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