Leica TL2 + Leica Elmarit-TL 18mm f/2.8 ASPH Black $2295

dpreview: https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/...mpressions
Steve Huff: https://www.stevehuffphoto.com/20...day-leica/

This is obviously still quite expensive for a nearly 3 year old camera, but it's still a great camera, and deals on current-model Leica cameras don't come around that often, so I figured it was worth posting!

Good deal relative to normal price, awful deal compared with what you can get for the money (including used FF Leicas)

Why these cameras are very expensive in comparison to a full featured dslr?

Quote from yamia : Why these cameras are very expensive in comparison to a full featured dslr?

Red dots make your photos instantly better. It's like having Ansel Adams, Annie Leibovitz, and Henri Cartier-Bresson in the palm of your hand.

Quote from elfenix : Red dots make your photos instantly better. It's like having Ansel Adams, Annie Leibovitz, and Henri Cartier-Bresson in the palm of your hand.

Thnx, so this small point and shot looking camera is way better than those $2k+ huge dslr???
If yes, why professional photographers use them but not these?

all seriousness.
you buying Lecia for the badge and heritage, you don't buy it for the performance.

and there are a lot of people care more about badges than anything else. so this is a great deal.

Argh the Hermès of digital cameras

Maybe would have bit if:

Silver version
23mm f/2 lens instead
$2k price

The 18mm f/2.8 is not an earth shattering lens, especially for the price.

Quote from elfenix : Red dots make your photos instantly better. It's like having Ansel Adams, Annie Leibovitz, and Henri Cartier-Bresson in the palm of your hand.

I seriously doubt that. No one can make u a better Photographer but your self. They can help you take a more technically better photo but only you can decide what is great composition or not. Leica is fantastic products but you pay alot for the name. No they are not the best but damn good.

Quote from yamia : Why these cameras are very expensive in comparison to a full featured dslr?

It has been a luxury brand for a long time, but it is not just a red dot that makes it expensive.

For most of the "premium models" - much of the manufacturing is happening in low volume, in the country of origin, using skilled and typically unionized (ontop of respected) "labor".

This, for most advanced countries, means very well-paid technicians, expensive tools etc. This Leica is made in Germany. Hasselblads are made in Sweden. Ofc materials are often sourced from all-over, but it is hard to manufacture something as advanced as a digital camera 100% locally.

The difference is keen to buying a Rolls Royce vs. buying the BMW the former shares a platform with. If you are after paper performance, the mass-produced Beemer will not be 1/4th~1/5th that of th RR, it might as well be better. But RRs are still sold and appreciated. So are Leicas and "Hassi"-s. Canon/Sony/Nikon etc out-sell them 1000 to one and whatnot, but they manage to survive - mainly by charging this kind of $.