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Leica TL2 + Leica Elmarit-TL 18mm f/2.8 ASPH Black $2295

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Leica TL2 Starter Bundle – $2,295.00

Includes both a TL2 and a Elmarit-TL 18mm f/2.8 ASPH, packaged separately, for less than the regular cost of a TL2 body only.

TL2 body is normally $2,495.00.
Elmarit-TL 18mm f/2.8 is usually $1,495.00.
Normal total: $3,990

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https://leicacamerausa.com/tl2-bl...47335.html
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Created 05-19-2020 at 07:58 PM by pgzero
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pgzero
05-19-2020 at 08:04 PM.
05-19-2020 at 08:04 PM.
dpreview: https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/...mpressions
Steve Huff: https://www.stevehuffphoto.com/20...day-leica/

This is obviously still quite expensive for a nearly 3 year old camera, but it's still a great camera, and deals on current-model Leica cameras don't come around that often, so I figured it was worth posting!
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Someguy503
05-19-2020 at 08:04 PM.
05-19-2020 at 08:04 PM.
Good deal relative to normal price, awful deal compared with what you can get for the money (including used FF Leicas)
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yamia
05-19-2020 at 10:25 PM.
05-19-2020 at 10:25 PM.
Why these cameras are very expensive in comparison to a full featured dslr?
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elfenix
05-19-2020 at 11:44 PM.
05-19-2020 at 11:44 PM.
Quote from yamia :
Why these cameras are very expensive in comparison to a full featured dslr?

Red dots make your photos instantly better. It's like having Ansel Adams, Annie Leibovitz, and Henri Cartier-Bresson in the palm of your hand.
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yamia
05-19-2020 at 11:48 PM.
05-19-2020 at 11:48 PM.
Quote from elfenix :
Red dots make your photos instantly better. It's like having Ansel Adams, Annie Leibovitz, and Henri Cartier-Bresson in the palm of your hand.

Thnx, so this small point and shot looking camera is way better than those $2k+ huge dslr???
If yes, why professional photographers use them but not these?
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seanleeforever
05-20-2020 at 12:22 AM.
05-20-2020 at 12:22 AM.
all seriousness.
you buying Lecia for the badge and heritage, you don't buy it for the performance.

and there are a lot of people care more about badges than anything else. so this is a great deal.
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nic_kobe_08
05-20-2020 at 12:54 AM.
05-20-2020 at 12:54 AM.
Argh the Hermès of digital cameras
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Futureproof
05-20-2020 at 02:51 AM.
05-20-2020 at 02:51 AM.
Maybe would have bit if:

Silver version
23mm f/2 lens instead
$2k price

The 18mm f/2.8 is not an earth shattering lens, especially for the price.
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Trickbenda
05-20-2020 at 04:50 AM.
05-20-2020 at 04:50 AM.
Quote from elfenix :
Red dots make your photos instantly better. It's like having Ansel Adams, Annie Leibovitz, and Henri Cartier-Bresson in the palm of your hand.
I seriously doubt that. No one can make u a better Photographer but your self. They can help you take a more technically better photo but only you can decide what is great composition or not. Leica is fantastic products but you pay alot for the name. No they are not the best but damn good.
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Dimitris
05-20-2020 at 08:32 AM.
05-20-2020 at 08:32 AM.
Quote from yamia :
Why these cameras are very expensive in comparison to a full featured dslr?
It has been a luxury brand for a long time, but it is not just a red dot that makes it expensive.

For most of the "premium models" - much of the manufacturing is happening in low volume, in the country of origin, using skilled and typically unionized (ontop of respected) "labor".

This, for most advanced countries, means very well-paid technicians, expensive tools etc. This Leica is made in Germany. Hasselblads are made in Sweden. Ofc materials are often sourced from all-over, but it is hard to manufacture something as advanced as a digital camera 100% locally.

The difference is keen to buying a Rolls Royce vs. buying the BMW the former shares a platform with. If you are after paper performance, the mass-produced Beemer will not be 1/4th~1/5th that of th RR, it might as well be better. But RRs are still sold and appreciated. So are Leicas and "Hassi"-s. Canon/Sony/Nikon etc out-sell them 1000 to one and whatnot, but they manage to survive - mainly by charging this kind of $.
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