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smokinjoefission
06-23-2020 at 05:13 PM.
06-23-2020 at 05:13 PM.
I am torn b/w this router and the the Netgear Orbi AC2200 RBK23. Will this router cover a 2200 sq ft ranch style home well with easily 15+ devices connected? Opinions/expertise appreciated. Thanks.

Also, any concerns over this being a refurb w/ 90 day warranty?
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> bubble2 1,645 Posts
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FLEX0
06-23-2020 at 08:33 PM.
06-23-2020 at 08:33 PM.
Quote from smokinjoefission :
I am torn b/w this router and the the Netgear Orbi AC2200 RBK23. Will this router cover a 2200 sq ft ranch style home well with easily 15+ devices connected? Opinions/expertise appreciated. Thanks.

Also, any concerns over this being a refurb w/ 90 day warranty?
My place is slightly smaller (1800 sqft) and I'm using a single access point (Netgear WAC505) at 50% power output to cover my entire property. I think a single device could be enough if you place it near the center of your home. Can't say much about it being a refurb, but TP-link routers have pretty good firmware out of the box.
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wjztusa
06-24-2020 at 07:00 AM.
06-24-2020 at 07:00 AM.
it's nice router, but service is so bad. they don't update at most time
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MRLAND
06-24-2020 at 07:45 AM.
06-24-2020 at 07:45 AM.
Quote from smokinjoefission :
I am torn b/w this router and the the Netgear Orbi AC2200 RBK23. Will this router cover a 2200 sq ft ranch style home well with easily 15+ devices connected? Opinions/expertise appreciated. Thanks.

Also, any concerns over this being a refurb w/ 90 day warranty?
I went from Orbi RBR50 and RBS50 combo with hardwired backhaul to the TP-link C4000, and the TP-Link crushed the Orbi combo in speed, reliability, range, and options. I have 1gig fiber. With Orbi WiFi, I would get 350-400 right next to the router and about ~200 around the house. With the TP-link, I get 550+ next to the router and 400+ around the house. Hardwired speed on Orbi varied wildly. Sometimes, I would get 800, sometimes 500. TPlink is consistent around 900+ up and down hard wired. Shockingly, the Orbi router on the main floor could not punch through my brick wall to get WiFi on the deck, but somehow the TP link gets through even though I ended up placing that in a worse location for deck coverage. Orbi charges extra if you want Armor security but the equivalent is free with TPlink. Orbi's usb also does not support hard drives so you'll need a NAS add on if you want networked media. Unless you have a funky shaped house that would benefit from multiple satellites, I would definitely recommend TPLink.
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komondor
06-24-2020 at 07:52 AM.
06-24-2020 at 07:52 AM.
The problem I have with Mesh Systems is that you cannot have a separate SSID for the 2.4 band which can make some IOT devices more difficult. I have a 3200 sq ft 2 story home with over 30 devices, never really had an issue to tell the truth, triband is pretty helpful as long as you set up each band for your environment the 2.4 band is usually pretty crowded with neighbors.

you can add 2 years for 12 bucks thru squaretrade. , just keep the unit cool more than anything else.

last update was 6 months ago but I prefer not to have a lot of updates other than for security issues.
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jasongw
06-24-2020 at 08:01 AM.
06-24-2020 at 08:01 AM.
Quote from smokinjoefission :
I am torn b/w this router and the the Netgear Orbi AC2200 RBK23. Will this router cover a 2200 sq ft ranch style home well with easily 15+ devices connected? Opinions/expertise appreciated. Thanks.

Also, any concerns over this being a refurb w/ 90 day warranty?

I'd say pick an 802.11ax router if you're going to buy at this price or above. Getting hard to justify 802.11ac, IMHO. I recently upgraded my 802.11ac mesh to ax, and it's a night and day difference on connected ax devices
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denzeler27
06-24-2020 at 08:31 AM.
06-24-2020 at 08:31 AM.
Quote from smokinjoefission :
I am torn b/w this router and the the Netgear Orbi AC2200 RBK23. Will this router cover a 2200 sq ft ranch style home well with easily 15+ devices connected? Opinions/expertise appreciated. Thanks.

Also, any concerns over this being a refurb w/ 90 day warranty?
Bought one and coverage was pretty terrible, 5ghz kept dropping, and couldn't handle our devices on the same lanes. I may have purchased a bad unit (even tho it was new).but overall I was not impressed one bit. I'd go orbi
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198four
06-24-2020 at 08:33 AM.
06-24-2020 at 08:33 AM.
Folks, i currently have an EA7300 which has been working fine but recently has been having issues with dropped connection. Will this be a good replacement? I live in a 2 story townhouse with brick walls and EA7300 barely covers it.
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198four
06-24-2020 at 08:34 AM.
06-24-2020 at 08:34 AM.
Quote from buttbuddy :
My place is slightly smaller (1800 sqft) and I'm using a single access point (Netgear WAC505) at 50% power output to cover my entire property. I think a single device could be enough if you place it near the center of your home. Can't say much about it being a refurb, but TP-link routers have pretty good firmware out of the box.
Excuse my ignorance but how do you change power output and why do you need to do it? I am assuming routers already consume very little electricity?
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likeaw
06-24-2020 at 08:49 AM.
06-24-2020 at 08:49 AM.
Quote from 198four :
Excuse my ignorance but how do you change power output and why do you need to do it? I am assuming routers already consume very little electricity?
How to turn down your home WiFi's transmit power [youtube.com]
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lottathought
06-24-2020 at 08:49 AM.
06-24-2020 at 08:49 AM.
Quote from jasongw :
I'd say pick an 802.11ax router if you're going to buy at this price or above. Getting hard to justify 802.11ac, IMHO. I recently upgraded my 802.11ac mesh to ax, and it's a night and day difference on connected ax devices
The only AX router that I am aware of ...even close to this price point...would have to be the AX3000 by Asus. I have the AX3000 by Asus.
You wanna trade? EEK!
On the OEM firmware, it was a circus. It has gotten better since I went to the Merlin firmware......but there are still quirks. If you have a lot of AX capable equipment, maybe an AX router is the way to go. But AX technically still lives on the 5G band. The true WIFI 6 that is getting adopted will live in a new band...so you are likely paying a premium for a very short window of evolution if you go AX. If you can wait and want the latest, wait until they switch over to the new WIFI 6. If you can't, this actually does not look bad. I would love to know who refurbished them though.
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fellhamster
06-24-2020 at 08:49 AM.
06-24-2020 at 08:49 AM.
I want to add that I bought a TP-Link C4000 for my 3,100 sqft ranch style home and we have seen full coverage. It's even placed in the corner of the house, not ideal. It has been very reliable with 15+ devices connected via wifi.
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jschmidt96
06-24-2020 at 08:55 AM.
06-24-2020 at 08:55 AM.
Quote from jasongw :
I'd say pick an 802.11ax router if you're going to buy at this price or above. Getting hard to justify 802.11ac, IMHO. I recently upgraded my 802.11ac mesh to ax, and it's a night and day difference on connected ax devices

I wouldn't buy any 802.11ax router for a while. Wifi6e was just ratified and it includes a new band (6ghz) with wider throughput.

All the ax routers are pretty much draft routers and will probably be sol with them in the next year or so.

For a good ac router you want something that gets updated and has multiple streams. Right now there is so many routers that are overkill for most people because they only have speeds below 100mbps.

And range will vary on your house or apartment and how many other networks are in the area. More networks equals more congestion and slower speeds.
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lottathought
06-24-2020 at 08:58 AM.
06-24-2020 at 08:58 AM.
Quote from likeaw :
How to turn down your home WiFi's transmit power [youtube.com]

This is actually an excellent question and one that is not asked very often.

There are a few reasons why you might want to turn down the transmitter.
It might be that you have more than 1 AP in your house/location. In cases like this, to have the radios wide open could cause the AP's to step on each other. This actually reduces the quality of the connection.

This is also a reason why neighbors might want to work together to control the radio power of the routers.

Also, just like any other radio, turning it to 100% can cause it to introduce noise. And noise can more than counter anything gained by the increase in radio power.

Typically you have some place in the advanced section which allows you to turn your radios down.

Having said all that, if you are having wifi issues, there are many things that may be causing it and you would need to investigate what it is first.
If it is something like interference from the neighbors, oftentimes it is better to just seek a non-used channel and program it to stay on that channel rather than rotate automatically.
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