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Klipsch R-112SW 12" 600W Reference Series Powered Subwoofer (Cherry)

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I don't see how you can go off reviews, unless they're about quality control problems, but not based on sound quality. I bought ELAC speakers everyone were going nuts about on forums, based on reviews alone. I thought they were going to sound like nothing I ever heard before after reading the reviews... But I absolutely hated how they sounded. I returned them after trying to like them for almost a month.

After that I listened to a lot of speakers, and ended going with a full Klipsch RP series setup. A lot of people said they're too bright, but they sound perfect to my ears. I've been really happy with them. I'm no sound engineer but I am a musician if that means anything or not, I don't know... Maybe the Klipsch are bright, but I thought the ELACs sounded dull and muddy, so maybe my ears like bright speakers. I know this doesn't apply to subwoofers but long story short, I don't go by speaker sound reviews anymore. It's tough to know what will sound good to you compared to a reviewers ears... Reviews are good for build quality but to me thats about it... So I guess it depends on what they said in the reviews.

I say go listen to as many speakers as you can till you find some that sound good to you.




I've tried both and the r112sw was noticeably louder and sounded better to me. But whether its worth almost double the price is questionable. Depends on a lot of things... your finances and what you would like to spend, how big of a room you're using it in, whether you currently have a sub or not, etc.

If you don't have a sub now, the cheaper one would make a huge difference... The r112sw is a noticeable upgrade, but you would have to decide if its worth it to you.




Yamaha receivers are good.
With subs you get what you pay for typically

I would save, spend more on an HSU, that Monoprice deal that is out there, SVS, or Rythmik. What is likely to happen here is you spend $300 and want to upgrade it in 18 months, and then spend $600-700 to get one of those which I mentioned
That depends on the rest of your speaker config. This sub will practically work with anything.

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Quote from JimBanville :
You can't find measurements? The r-112? Specs on crutchfield, where is has solid 5 stars with 285 reviews, it's listed to go down to 24hz. I assume that's -3db.
The Klipsch/jamo 110/112/115 subs are all premium subs that all dip down in the low 20's.
These are not to be confused with the 12/120 series of Klipsch subs.
Did you even read my comment? I specifically said measurements, NOT listed specs. For example the Klipsch R-115SW has been measured and drops almost twice as much at 20Hz compared to the SVS PB-2000, despite their claimed +-3dB frequency response being within 1Hz of each other.
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Quote from wowimpressive :
Did you even read my comment? I specifically said measurements, NOT listed specs. For example the Klipsch R-115SW has been measured and drops almost twice as much at 20Hz compared to the SVS PB-2000, despite their claimed +-3dB frequency response being within 1Hz of each other.
Lol. Calm down, son. You said measurements. Manufactures derive their SPECS from MEASUREMENTS, lol. Didn't even think I had to explain that, but whatever.
Anyway, I updated my post with INDEPENDENT sub measurements of some Klipsch subs, including the Klipsch SPL120, which is equivalent to an r112.
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Quote from JimBanville :
Lol. Calm down, son. You said measurements. Manufactures derive their SPECS from MEASUREMENTS, lol. Didn't even think I had to explain that, but whatever.
Anyway, I updated my post with INDEPENDENT sub measurements of some Klipsch subs, including the Klipsch SPL120, which is equivalent to an r112.
If their specs are from measurements why is there such a massive discrepancy between them and other trustworthy companies when independent testers verify them? I'll give you a hint: it's because their measurement methodologies are not the same as other companies presumably so they can give inflated numbers. They do the exact same thing for their full range speakers. The RP-600M has 96dB sensitivity according to Klipsch, and 89dB sensitivity according to pretty much everyone else.

And yes I see that spreadsheet has the SPL-120 measurements which is not the exact same sub so it's kind of not relevant. But did you bother comparing it to the PB-1000 listed on the same spreadsheet so you could notice the 11dB drop on the Klipsch compared to the 5dB drop on the SVS at 25Hz?
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If their specs are from measurements why is there such a massive discrepancy between them and other trustworthy companies when independent testers verify them? I'll give you a hint: it's because their measurement methodologies are not the same as other companies presumably so they can give inflated numbers. They do the exact same thing for their full range speakers. The RP-600M has 96dB sensitivity according to Klipsch, and 89dB sensitivity according to pretty much everyone else.

And yes I see that spreadsheet has the SPL-120 measurements which is not the exact same sub so it's kind of not relevant. But did you bother comparing it to the PB-1000 listed on the same spreadsheet so you could notice the 11dB drop on the Klipsch compared to the 5dB drop on the SVS at 25Hz?
Lol. The spl120 and r112 are the same basic sub. I'm not going to continue spoon feed you. Do your own research.
No, since the $300 Klipsch in this post is in a completely different price category of $500 svs sub, I did not compare them. Lol. Stop
being silly 😂😂😂
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Quote from wowimpressive :
If their specs are from measurements why is there such a massive discrepancy between them and other trustworthy companies when independent testers verify them? I'll give you a hint: it's because their measurement methodologies are not the same as other companies presumably so they can give inflated numbers. They do the exact same thing for their full range speakers. The RP-600M has 96dB sensitivity according to Klipsch, and 89dB sensitivity according to pretty much everyone else.

And yes I see that spreadsheet has the SPL-120 measurements which is not the exact same sub so it's kind of not relevant. But did you bother comparing it to the PB-1000 listed on the same spreadsheet so you could notice the 11dB drop on the Klipsch compared to the 5dB drop on the SVS at 25Hz?
"If their specs are from measurements why is there such a massive discrepancy between them and other trustworthy companies when independent testers verify them?"
Lol. You are arguing against your self! First you say there are no measurements for THIS SUB and then you say klipsch's spec's don't match the independent tests...that you say don't exist. Duh huh?
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Quote from JimBanville :
Lol. The spl120 and r112 are the same basic sub. I'm not going to continue spoon feed you. Do your own research.
No, since the $300 Klipsch in this post is in a completely different price category of $500 svs sub, I did not compare them. Lol. Stop
being silly 😂😂😂
Quote from JimBanville :
"If their specs are from measurements why is there such a massive discrepancy between them and other trustworthy companies when independent testers verify them?"
Lol. You are arguing against your self! First you say there are no measurements for THIS SUB and then you say klipsch's spec's don't match the independent tests...that you say don't exist. Duh huh?
Ok so let's recap. I replied to someone asking for comparison between this sub and the PB-1000 and said there is someone in this thread complaining the sub drops off drastically after 30Hz. Not only did you link a measurement proving that "basically the same sub" does (-11dB at 25Hz, -22dB at 20Hz), now you are just making excuses for them. What am I missing here? I'll make a mental note not to question the value of anything made by Klipsch from now on or else I'll encounter the wrath of their greatest fanboy.
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Quote from wowimpressive :
Ok so let's recap. I replied to someone asking for comparison between this sub and the PB-1000 and said there is someone in this thread complaining the sub drops off drastically after 30Hz. Not only did you link a measurement proving that "basically the same sub" does (-11dB at 25Hz, -22dB at 20Hz), now you are just making excuses for them. What am I missing here? I'll make a mental note not to question the value of anything made by Klipsch from now on or else I'll encounter the wrath of their greatest fanboy.
You're hilarious. I must be the WORST "greatest fanboy" for Klipsch since I don't actually own a Klipsch! Haha!
Let' recap ....Comparing a $300 Klipsch to a $500 SVS is as silly as the other guy comparing the $300 Klipsch to a $150 Dayton.
Now I know why you and that Superman rob guy argue so much. Your both HARD headed...and silly as well. Peace out, bro 😘
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You're hilarious. I must be the only Klipsch fanboy to NOT actually own a Klipsch! Haha!
Let' recap ....Comparing a $300 Klipsch to a $500 SVS is as silly as the other guy comparing the $300 Klipsch to a $150 Dayton.
Now I know why you and that Superman rob guy argue so much. Your both HARD headed...and silly as well. Peace out, bro 😘
FFS I was replying to someone asking what the difference between the two subs was. Please link me to the comment I made saying they are the same price. Jesus.
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FFS I was replying to someone asking what the difference between the two subs was. Please link me to the comment I made saying they are the same price. Jesus.
And your rely to him was to post anecdotal hearsay! Lol. Remind me to never ask your opinion in the future. Bwahaha!
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And your rely to him was to post anecdotal hearsay! Lol. Remind me to never ask your opinion in the future. Bwahaha!
You literally posted your own third party measurements backing up what the anecdotal hearsay was claiming. God you are the absolute worst.
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Can anyone help to advise, how does this compare to SVS PB1000? I have a Polk LSIM 7 setup.

I would be buying two.
That is a very broad question with so many factors left out. You are going to get many differing opinions but just understand as some people have mentioned, opinions and specs are not a reliable way of finding out how something with compare(sound) to you within your setup.

Just look in this one thread as proof of that. People having "silly arguments" over their opinions.
Specs/measurements tell you even less, again just look in this one post as proof.

The majority of people argue over what they heard and not the specs. Most people don't even bother to verify the measurements because it not even close to being the main factor.

Thats because there are a vast many other things to consider before that.

Even in here the one person that did take the time and measure the sub within his own setup didn't get the same results as the specs/measurements!

The ironic thing is the people always arguing how important specs/measurements are in choosing what sounds/performs good to you start pointing to reasons/excuses on why.
What are those reasons/excuses, all those other factors that go into this Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)
Those specs/measurements quickly start going down the list of importance.

Here is what I can tell you, when building a HT setup the two things you should not skimp on are the center and the subwoofer.

In the big picture this and other like it are considered entry level subwoofers. You will find people that listen to them and say this is good enough and that's great for them and nothing wrong with that, unfortunately that won't tell you anything on what you would think within your own setup.

If you have ever listened to something and said something like wow that was awesome/great/perfect/etc, IMO that is what you should go after, even if it's piece by piece.

There is always going to be something better but only you are the one that will know where that line gets drawn whether it's worth going any higher by listening.

My suggestion is gamble on something at the very top of your list/line making sure there is a good return policy and listen to it within your setup. If you works great for you and you are happy you are done.

That great thing about speakers is they don't need to be upgraded unless you choose to do it.
They can last you a really long time and can be a very good investment.
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You literally posted your own third party measurements backing up what the anecdotal hearsay was claiming. God you are the absolute worst.
Oh really? I didn't see the R112sw on that page I linked to and you said it wasn't the same as the SPL112, so I don't get your complaint?! Bwahahah! You're such an easy target 😂😂😂😘
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Quote from gujucrave :
Can anyone help to advise, how does this compare to SVS PB1000? I have a Polk LSIM 7 setup.

I would be buying two.
keep an eye on the SVS site, they run a deal from time to time where you get an extra discount for going dual.
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so recap,

should i wait for HOPEFULLY a svs sale for the PB-1000 on an outlet deal/scratch/dent on their site to maybe see it for ~$400

and if so, will that be significantly better than this $300 klipsch sub?

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Quote from MoisesA7010 :
so recap,

should i wait for HOPEFULLY a svs sale for the PB-1000 on an outlet deal/scratch/dent on their site to maybe see it for ~$400

and if so, will that be significantly better than this $300 klipsch sub?
The svs warranty is much better. The svs is "better" (louder and deeper) but not worlds better. It's not a huge difference like going from the entry level Klipsch sub like r12 or r120. Your basically going up a level.
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