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Chase is offering a $200 Bonus after you spend $500 on purchases in the first 3 months of account opening for the Chase Freedom Flex℠. Annual fee is $0. Thanks dravid

Card Details:
  • Earn a $200 Bonus after you spend $500 on purchases in your first 3 months from account opening.
  • Earn 5% cash back on grocery store purchases (not including Target® or Walmart® purchases) on up to $12,000 spent in the first year.
  • Earn 5% cash back on up to $1,500 in combined purchases in bonus categories each quarter you activate. Enjoy new 5% categories each quarter!
  • Earn 5% on travel purchased through Chase, 3% on dining at restaurants and drugstores, and 1% on all other purchases.
  • No annual fee.
  • 0% Intro APR for 15 months from account opening on purchases, then a variable APR of 14.99 - 23.74%.
  • No minimum to redeem for cash back. Cash Back rewards do not expire as long as your account is open.
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Chase is offering a $200 Bonus after you spend $500 on purchases in the first 3 months of account opening for the Chase Freedom Flex℠. This bonus and 5% on groceries in year 1 is only for those applying for a new card and not for "product changes".

HERE IS WHAT CNBC HAD TO SAY
"The Chase Freedom Flex credit card is a competitive no-annual-fee card that outmatches the other two Freedom cards. You'll receive lucrative cash-back rewards and an industry-leading welcome bonus that make this card a great asset. Plus this card pairs great with either the Chase Sapphire Preferred Card or the Chase Sapphire Reserve Card since you can transfer Ultimate Rewards points between cards. This makes your points worth 25% (Preferred) or 50% (Reserve) more."
https://www.cnbc.com/select/chase...rd-review/

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original post by dravid:
https://creditcards.chase.com/a1/freedom/CFD
https://creditcards.chase.com/a1/freedomflex?
No annual Fee credit card with free cell phone insurance, free trip cancellation/ trip interruption insurance, free extended warranty on purchases, free worldwide free car rental insurance etc, etc, etc. This is a "World Elite Mastercard".



FREEDOM FLEX
5% on Quarterly Categories (categories for the Flex will be the same as the ones for the regular chase freedom)
5% on Travel purchased through Chase Ultimate Rewards
3% on Dining
3% on Drugstore
5% on Lyft through March 2022
1% unlimited cash back
1% to 15% cash back at select merchants when you purchase through Chase's website

NO ANNUAL FEE
FREE! Cell Phone Protection including cracked screen
: Get up to $800 per claim and $1,000 per year in cell phone protection against covered theft or damage for phones listed on your monthly cell phone bill when you pay it with your eligible credit card. Maximum of 2 claims in a 12 month period with a $50 deductible per claim.
FREE! Trip Cancellation/ Interruption Insurance : You can be reimbursed up to $1,500 per person and $6,000 per trip for your pre-paid, nonrefundable passenger fares, if your trip is canceled or cut short by sickness, severe weather and other covered situations
FREE! Auto Rental Collision Damage Waiver : Decline the rental company's collision insurance and charge the entire rental cost to your card. Coverage is provided for theft and collision damage for most cars in the U.S. and abroad. In the U.S., coverage is secondary to your personal insurance.
FREE! Extended Warranty Protection: Extends the time period of the U.S. manufacturer's warranty by an additional year, on eligible warranties of three years or less
FREE! Purchase Protection: Covers your new purchases for 120 days against damage or theft up to $500 per claim and $50,000 per account
FREE! Complimentary 3 months of DashPass that provides unlimited deliveries for a $0 delivery fee on DoorDash orders over $12
FREE! Zero Liability Protection: You won't be held responsible for unauthorized charges made with your card or account information
FREE! Credit Score: Access your credit score at any time with Credit Journey
FREE! Fraud Monitoring: Safeguard your account using real-time monitoring for possible signs of fraudulent activity
FREE! Travel and Emergency Assistance Services: If you run into a problem away from home, call the Benefit Administrator for legal and medical referrals or other travel and emergency assistance. (You will be responsible for the cost of any goods or services obtained.)
FREE! Take 5 rides in a month and get a $10 Lyft credit once per month
FREE! ShopRunner membership . Members currently receive 2-day shipping and free return shipping at over a hundred online retailers, including Saks Fifth Avenue, Brooks Brothers, Kate Spade, Adorama, 1-800-Flowers and more
FREE! Boxed: Earn 5% Cash Rewards on Boxed orders for use on future purchases.

Signup "bonus" for a "new application" and not for a "product change": $200 after spending $500, plus 5% back at grocery stores on up to $12,000 in purchases during the first year (12 monthly billing cycles).

Chase's Guide to Complete Benefits for the Freedom Flex is Attached!!!

5% on Quarterly Categories (for Oct to Dec 2020 the 5% category would be Paypal charges and Walmart per Doctor of Credi (DoC); DoC is also reporting that apparently Chase doesn't have the right technology to add new Flex card to Mobile wallets just yet because it is Chase's first MasterCard. Hopefully they will have this sorted out before Oct 1 so you can take advantage of Paypal or else sh$$$IT may hit the roof).
Quote from famewolf :
For those annoyed the card is no longer in your digital wallet...you can always use your "paypal key" which is both a mastercard AND can be put into a digital wallet then point paypal to the new freedom flex.....problem solved. Oh course since next quarter you'd get 5% back on paypal purchases (discover has it for THIS quarter) and that would just be a bonus.
Workaround stated differently: Generate a paypal key which is also a mastercard...add THAT to the digital wallet...make paypal's default payment method the flex.
Quote from larryc :
[*]Can the Chase Freedom Flex card be added to Zelle or Vemno? No, and not even sure why you brought this up; Zelle & Venmo link with bank accounts, not with credit cards[*]Can the Chase Freedom Flex card be added to Google Pay, Samsung Pay, or Apple Pay? No (See Chase's list [chase.com]. Notice that these are all Visa cards, not mastercards. Also see Doctor of Credit [doctorofcredit.com])[*]Can the Chase Freedom Flex card be added to PayPal as a paypal option? Yes, no reason to believe it couldn't be.[*]Can the Chase Freedom Flex card be used with the Paypal Key service (which creates a virtual Mastercard linked to your PayPal payment option(s)? Yes, no reason to believe it would not work.[*]Ok, I've created a Paypal key virtual Mastercard that points to my Chase Flex card; can I add this virtual PayPal card to Google Pay, Apple Pay or Samsung Pay? Yes for Google Pay; No for Samsung Pay & ApplePay, as confirmed by Doctor of Credit. [doctorofcredit.com][/LIST]This list is subject to change, of course, but is accurate to the best of my knowledge as of the date I'm posting.
Also, for those of you thinking "Oh, of course Chase will soon add applepay support to this card", note that my Chase Ink Visa STILL does not work with ApplePay, six years after ApplePay launched. In other words, I wouldn't hold my breath.

HOW TO APPLY?PRODUCT CHANGE
Those who have the Chase Freedom or Freedom Unlimited can choose to:
a). Apply for a new card, namely, the Freedom Flex (and get the "sign up bonus")

Or

b) "Product Change" an existing Chase card to the Chase Flex card (you don't get the "bonus" but you do save a hard pull on your credit report and also helps steer clear of the 5/24 rule (5/24 rule means Chase won't issue a new card to anyone who was given 5 cards in the last 24 months, regardless of who issued the card). You need to call Chase to make a product change.

https://www.doctorofcredit.com/ch...hire-card/

Link for those "applying" for the first time (can apply from Sept 14). This link also has a direct comparison of the Freedom Unlimited (enhanced version) and Freedom Flex.
https://creditcards.chase.com/a1/...omingsoon?

HOW TO "PRODUCT CHANGE" from an existing Card (transfer you credit history from old card to new Flex card!)
Quote from Americano2016 :
Very easy to product change.

1. Call the number in the back of your card.
2. Talk with human. And say product change to flex.
3. Confirm you agree. Done!
DIRECT COMPARISON OF CHASE FREEDOM UNLIMITED VS CHASE FREEDOM FLEX
https://creditcards.chase.com/a1/...omingsoon?
Note that Freedom Unlimited is a Visa and Chase Flex is Mastercard. Chase Flex has phone insurance, ShopRunner, etc and certain other Mastercard World Elite benefits which Freedom Unlimited doesn't. Also note the difference is % points for earning.

LOOPHOLE TO PRODUCT CHANGE FROM NON-FREEDOM CARD to FREEDOM FLEX
According to Chase's media team, it was only supposed to be possible to product change a Freedom card to Freedom Flex, not from Sapphire or Unlimited cards. It's possible that this is just a Day #1 exception, and that on the 15th or beyond it will stop being possible
Data Point: Today (9/14) they would not allow the Southwest Card to product change to the Freedom Flex

For more information see the link below:
https://www.doctorofcredit.com/ch...hire-card/

QUESTION and ANSWER
Question: Anyone know of the points redemption? Is is a minimum redemption at $25 or is there no minimum?
Answer: No minimum. You can even cash out just 1 point. You have total flexibility
Question: Is Chase Freedom Flex "Product Change" Considered A New Account?
Answer: https://www.doctorofcredit.com/re...w-account/

PHONE INSURANCE COVERAGE
Benefit Overview
Get up to $800 per claim and $1,000 per year in cell phone protection against covered theft or damage for phones listed on your monthly cell phone bill when you pay it with your eligible credit card. Maximum of 2 claims in a 12 month period with a $50 deductible per claim.

The following information is a summary only. Please see your Guide to Benefits for complete details.

Additional Benefit Information
Can reimburse you to repair or replace your eligible cellular telephone in the event of theft or damage when you charge your monthly cellular service provider bill to your covered card
Coverage is in excess of any valid and collectible insurance such as cellular phone insurance programs, homeowner's insurance, or other forms of reimbursement
Who's Covered
Cardholder who pays for their monthly cellular service provider bill with their covered card
Period
In order for coverage to apply you must charge your monthly cellular service provider bill to your covered card
Coverage begins the first day of the calendar month following a payment of the cellular service provider bill and remains in effect until the last day of the calendar month following payment
What's Covered
All eligible cellular phones listed on your cellular service provider's monthly billing statement for the billing cycle in which the damage or theft occurred
What's Not Covered
This is not an exhaustive list. Examples include:
Electronic issues, such as inability to charge, mechanical or battery failure
Cellular phone accessories other than a standard battery and/or standard antenna provided by the manufacturer
Cellular phones purchased for resale or for professional or commercial use
Cellular phones that are lost or mysteriously disappear with no evidence of a wrongful act
Cellular phones which have been rented or leased from a person or company other than a cellular provider
Cellular phones borrowed or received as part of a prepaid plan
Cosmetic damage to the Cellular phone or damage that does not impact the Cellular phone's ability to make or receive phone calls
Quote from Croq :
One of the many cell phone exclusions (man they have a lot of ways to avoid paying you anything):

"Replacement of Eligible Cellular Wireless Telephone(s) purchased
from anyone other than a cellular service provider's retail or internet
store that has the ability to initiate activation with the cellular
service provider; "

So, if I'm reading it correctly, my phone bought directly from Samsung would not be covered. Unless I bought my phone from my service provider, no coverage.
Quote from Knightshade :

Specifically-
"Quote from Benefits guide :
To get coverage:
You must charge your monthly Eligible Cellular Wireless
Telephone bill to your Covered Card. You are eligible for
coverage the first day of the calendar month following the
payment of your Eligible Cellular Wireless Telephone bill to
your Covered Card"

Only language I see regarding pre vs post-paid are an exclusion for:

"Quote :
Eligible Cellular Wireless Telephones that are received as
part of a pre-paid plan;"

So if you brought your own phone to a pre-paid plan it seems like you'd be covered, but not if you got the phone as part of the pre-paid plan.
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PERSONAL OPINION - BEST COMBINATION OF NO FEE CARDS FOR COSTCO SHOPPER
The best combination of no fee cards for COSCTO shoppers is the Chase Flex Mastercard and Citi Costco Visa.The citi Costco card provides 2 years extended warranty, 2% on COSTCO purchases and no foreign currency transactions. These 2 cards mean you will have both Mastercard and Visa.
Q&A On Costco Card:
Question: My Costco membership is kind of weird. My dad is the primary and he has the costco credit card. I am not sure if I can apply for one as a secondary.
Answer: Yes, of course you can. That's why a primary and secondary COSTCO member have different membership numbers so each can independently apply for a Citi COSTCO card. That's what COSTCO told me.

POTENTIAL FOR REFERRAL BONUS BY LOGGING INTO YOUR CHASE ACCOUNT
By the way, if you log on to the Chase web site, you can get a referral bonus for others who take up the Freedom card (yes it is $100 for each referral!). Unfortunately, for me, it only allows me to refer a friend for Chase Freedom Unlimited not the Chase Freedom Flex. Can others check? Once you log onto Chase, run a search for "refer a fiend" and select "credit cards"....follow the prompts and then it gives you a list of credit cards that you can refer to get a bonus. The referral bonus varies by the type of card. I am surprised the referral bonus is as high as $100 for each referral to a Freedom Unlimited card!!!
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If you ever wondered how Chase can offer such rich benefits on the Chase Flex credit card with no annual fees, read this courtesy of chemical2809 who posted it on reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CreditCa..._own_card/

"Chase does have their own payment processing network. It's called ChaseNet. It runs on leased space on the Visa network. So technically it is everywhere, for Merchants who bank with Chase. It is alive and well, growing marketshare. You'll never hear about it because it's primarly a B2B endeavor. Chase makes agreements with businesses to process Chase cards on ChaseNet which is leased space on the Visa network. What this means is that Chase is the issuing bank, Chase is the acquiring bank, and Chase is the payment processor. Because of that, Chase can charge the merchant a lower fee, yet still get a larger profit on the interchange since they don't need to share it with as many people now than they would if the Merchant was running Chase cards on Stripe, or Paypal. Think about it like this: Chase might be getting 30% of 3% interchange fee when they run Chase cards on Stripe or Paypal, but now Chase could be getting as much as 70% of a 2% interchange fee when they run cards on ChaseNet. So in the first case, chase is getting 0.9% of the transaction on Stripe or Paypal swipes. In the second case, Chase is getting 1.4% of the transaction, even though the total interchange fee to the merchant is lower. That is the beauty and the masterstroke of the ChaseNet business. They managed to increase their interchange profit, without having to go full on Amex/Disco, by simply leasing space on the Visa network which is quite clever.

I believe that a large motivation for Chase recently issuing the Freedom flex on Mastercard network has in large part to do with expanding ChaseNet to a deal with Mastercard (replicating the model they tested with Visa). A big reason why Chase probably didn't just convert the Freedom card to MC, and instead issued the new card line is because they would piss off Visa greatly if they suddenly cancelled the thousands of Freedom Visa cards that have already been issued, and for which Visa makes money on when they are swiped.

What Chase did instead? They sidestepped Visa by issuing a new card line, on the Mastercard network. Chase most likely now has an agreement with Mastercard to lease bandwidth on the MC network at a really good rate. This is a large reason why Chase is able to offer the outrageous rewards programs in general. Unlike banks like BankofAmerica, Citi, Wells Fargo, who are only getting a cut of interchange with 3 or 4 other middlemen, Chase is getting a bigger cut for cards processed through ChaseNet, without increasing the interchange rate to the Merchant, and in many cases reducing the interchange fee to the merchant."
yes but one which is significantly better....for instance includes free phone insurance
Changing from Freedom Unlimited, I'd lose the 1.5% cashback on everything. Makes me wonder if it's worth it

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FantasticFeather349
12-13-2020 at 02:42 PM.
12-13-2020 at 02:42 PM.
I just got the freedom unlimited card a couple weeks ago and they won't approve me for the flex card. They put almost 9k a weird 8950 number looks like maxing my credit limit. First girl said she couldn't even try to lower that to put on new flex card. Lady today said she could but trying got denied.

Denial reasons too many applications because they are rejected. Not enough spending. Too many accounts. My credit is amazing the freedom was first new card in years.

I have a previous chase amazon card maybe they can cancel that so I can get the flex

Any help? They have no idea what they are doing or if what they say is true but keep dinging my credit and pushing me back further. I already have 500 spending on unlimited card and want to do the same with flex but their is in my way.
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FeistyHose465
12-13-2020 at 03:36 PM.
12-13-2020 at 03:36 PM.
Quote from newbharry :
U get ur annual fee reimburse..prorated
Are you 100% sure?, So if I cancel it after being charged for the whole year, I will get 11 months back of the fee?.

It makes sense, but I just cant to confirm
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keithobri
12-14-2020 at 12:11 PM.
12-14-2020 at 12:11 PM.
I just got off the phone with a Chase rep due to the fact that the documentation I provided was not sufficient. I have excellent credit (800 Fico) and have significant assets in Chase bank accounts and yet they want me to provide more income documentation, which is absurd. I have never been asked to verify my income for a credit card. Has anyone else run into this issue? I decided just to withdraw my application as I told them I am not going to jump through a bunch of hoops when it is not a necessity.
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paulisonthephone
12-14-2020 at 12:17 PM.
12-14-2020 at 12:17 PM.
I applied a few weeks ago and after a few days was approved for a lower amount than I expected so instead of asking for an increase I transferred my credit from my Slate card, which I only had from a no-fee balance transfer back in the day, over to the new Flex, and closed the Slate.

I'm happy with the limit I have now and my only complaint with the card is that I can't add it to Samsung Pay which I've come to love. Carrying the card isn't really a hassle but if I'm out with only my phone it's so much easier to just pay with it most places I shop.
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Supahsavor
12-14-2020 at 03:40 PM.
12-14-2020 at 03:40 PM.
just some FYI...

this card has no balance transfer options. was approved but they don't send you balance transfer checks, and when you call and request them they tell you that this card doesn't have any balance transfer options.

Tiny credit limit even though i have 3 other chase credit cards for 10 years plus with 20x the credit limit.

their "solution" is to either do another credit hard pull, or to share my other cards credit limit with this.

so basically you apply for the card, they hard pull your credit... and in the end you're borrowing your own credit limit from them.

gotta say, CHASE is by far the worst of the credit card companies.
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12-14-2020 at 10:48 PM.
12-14-2020 at 10:48 PM.
Quote from PC2380 :
Will donation be counted as purchases?

If you donate by paying with your credit card, yes this counts as a purchase. Not one that would normally earn bonus beyond the standard 1%, although many charities take PayPal which is currently worth 5% for the rest of the quarter assuming you activated it already.
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12-15-2020 at 12:09 AM.
12-15-2020 at 12:09 AM.
Rookie question, if I have a freeze on Experian report, meaning I have to manually call / write in, in order for my credit to be pulled, could this card be acquired by pulling the other two credit establishments? Or do I have to lift the freeze prior to applying.
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Samuez
12-15-2020 at 09:05 AM.
12-15-2020 at 09:05 AM.
Quote from FeistyHose465 :
Are you 100% sure?, So if I cancel it after being charged for the whole year, I will get 11 months back of the fee?.

It makes sense, but I just cant to confirm
I'm not too sure which this guy is referring to but chase AF is prorated only when you product change. If you cancel a credit card usually within the first month of the annual fee, you will get the full AF back. But if you are already 11 months into the AF, the only way to get the last months prorated fee back is to product change it to a no AF card and you will get that last months fee back.

For instance, I was 6 months into my CSR when I product change to chase unlimited and I was able to get half of my AF back (6 months). If I were to cancel it instead,I would have gotten nothing. That is my understanding.

If your fee hit on Nov, you can still cancel probably and get full amount back. Just ask them. Or if you wait until Jan or Feb and you can get 10 months or so prorated if you product change.
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wad2k6
12-15-2020 at 09:45 AM.
12-15-2020 at 09:45 AM.
I initially got denied, called their lending services,was on phone for 15 minutes with rep while she went through my credit history for past 2 years, mainly questioning a mark, a crappy wells Fargo card I got denied for about a year ago, I forgot about , that I didn't bother pursuing after reading what a crooked bank they are. She was asking all the same stuff over and over. Man, you would think a person with a 780 fico and very very long history with chase and 2 other chase cards, wouldn't be under that scutiny, but who knows. She was acting like she was doing me some huge favor. I was just about ready to tell her piss off, I changed my mind. She also asked why I wanted card. I told her for the bonus, and that's it. Otherwise I won't use it after. She approved me. So I told her I only want it now if she can expedite so I get it this week for Xmas presents, otherwise forget it. So it's on its way supposedly. 2020 is an odd year, isn't it.
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12-15-2020 at 09:48 AM.
12-15-2020 at 09:48 AM.
Quote from FantasticFeather349 :
I just got the freedom unlimited card a couple weeks ago and they won't approve me for the flex card. They put almost 9k a weird 8950 number looks like maxing my credit limit. First girl said she couldn't even try to lower that to put on new flex card. Lady today said she could but trying got denied.

Denial reasons too many applications because they are rejected. Not enough spending. Too many accounts. My credit is amazing the freedom was first new card in years.

I have a previous chase amazon card maybe they can cancel that so I can get the flex

Any help? They have no idea what they are doing or if what they say is true but keep dinging my credit and pushing me back further. I already have 500 spending on unlimited card and want to do the same with flex but their is in my way.

See my above post, I called the lending reconsideration and got approved..but..I'm annoyed, because it felt like was some giant inquisition. For a stinking credit card.
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NervousFuel710
12-15-2020 at 01:48 PM.
12-15-2020 at 01:48 PM.
Did anyone got a call from 888 number to verify address etc? I am surprised I wasn't approved instantly.
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12-15-2020 at 03:47 PM.
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FeistyHose465
12-15-2020 at 08:04 PM.
12-15-2020 at 08:04 PM.
Quote from Samuez :
I'm not too sure which this guy is referring to but chase AF is prorated only when you product change. If you cancel a credit card usually within the first month of the annual fee, you will get the full AF back. But if you are already 11 months into the AF, the only way to get the last months prorated fee back is to product change it to a no AF card and you will get that last months fee back.

For instance, I was 6 months into my CSR when I product change to chase unlimited and I was able to get half of my AF back (6 months). If I were to cancel it instead,I would have gotten nothing. That is my understanding.

If your fee hit on Nov, you can still cancel probably and get full amount back. Just ask them. Or if you wait until Jan or Feb and you can get 10 months or so prorated if you product change.
Thanks, I was referring to the CSR card.
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Tazmania99
12-15-2020 at 08:16 PM.
12-15-2020 at 08:16 PM.
If I were you, I would keep the Flex with low credit line. After cashing out the bonus from Flex, call Chase to transfer the credit line from Flex to Slate, and leave only $500 CL on Flex. And then ask Chase to convert the Slate to another Flex. In this way, I don't need to close the account with longer credit history but also can get the Flex signup bonus. A year later, close the Flex with $500 CL.

Quote from paulisonthephone :
I applied a few weeks ago and after a few days was approved for a lower amount than I expected so instead of asking for an increase I transferred my credit from my Slate card, which I only had from a no-fee balance transfer back in the day, over to the new Flex, and closed the Slate.

I'm happy with the limit I have now and my only complaint with the card is that I can't add it to Samsung Pay which I've come to love. Carrying the card isn't really a hassle but if I'm out with only my phone it's so much easier to just pay with it most places I shop.
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12-16-2020 at 03:37 PM.
12-16-2020 at 03:37 PM.
Quote from RussianBytes :
If you ever wondered how Chase can offer such rich benefits on the Chase Flex credit card with no annual fees, read this courtesy of chemical2809 who posted it on reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CreditCa..._own_card/

"Chase does have their own payment processing network. It's called ChaseNet. It runs on leased space on the Visa network. So technically it is everywhere, for Merchants who bank with Chase. It is alive and well, growing marketshare. You'll never hear about it because it's primarly a B2B endeavor. Chase makes agreements with businesses to process Chase cards on ChaseNet which is leased space on the Visa network. What this means is that Chase is the issuing bank, Chase is the acquiring bank, and Chase is the payment processor. Because of that, Chase can charge the merchant a lower fee, yet still get a larger profit on the interchange since they don't need to share it with as many people now than they would if the Merchant was running Chase cards on Stripe, or Paypal. Think about it like this: Chase might be getting 30% of 3% interchange fee when they run Chase cards on Stripe or Paypal, but now Chase could be getting as much as 70% of a 2% interchange fee when they run cards on ChaseNet. So in the first case, chase is getting 0.9% of the transaction on Stripe or Paypal swipes. In the second case, Chase is getting 1.4% of the transaction, even though the total interchange fee to the merchant is lower. That is the beauty and the masterstroke of the ChaseNet business. They managed to increase their interchange profit, without having to go full on Amex/Disco, by simply leasing space on the Visa network which is quite clever.

I believe that a large motivation for Chase recently issuing the Freedom flex on Mastercard network has in large part to do with expanding ChaseNet to a deal with Mastercard (replicating the model they tested with Visa). A big reason why Chase probably didn't just convert the Freedom card to MC, and instead issued the new card line is because they would piss off Visa greatly if they suddenly cancelled the thousands of Freedom Visa cards that have already been issued, and for which Visa makes money on when they are swiped.

What Chase did instead? They sidestepped Visa by issuing a new card line, on the Mastercard network. Chase most likely now has an agreement with Mastercard to lease bandwidth on the MC network at a really good rate. This is a large reason why Chase is able to offer the outrageous rewards programs in general. Unlike banks like BankofAmerica, Citi, Wells Fargo, who are only getting a cut of interchange with 3 or 4 other middlemen, Chase is getting a bigger cut for cards processed through ChaseNet, without increasing the interchange rate to the Merchant, and in many cases reducing the interchange fee to the merchant."

In my opinion, it's different business model. What percentage of your credit card usage is dining and/or at CVS/Walgreens? I don't think it would be even close to 50%. Most CC issuing banks hedge on you being using that card exclusively, so when/if you're not able to pay on time, they can make money on fees and hefty interest rates.
On a related note, I've BoA Better Balance card, which I never use, except $1 monthly recurring charge/payment, and they give me $120 a year reward.
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