Corsair Hydro Series H60 (CW-9060036-WW) Liquid CPU Cooler

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10-16-2020 at 02:21 PM #2

Its the "yo dog i have an itx that overheats" edition. Whoever spends $75 for a single 120mm vs a quality air cooler, gets what they deserve. Higher temps...

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10-16-2020 at 06:43 PM #3

Lol I'll admit I keep seeing these, arguing with myself for thirty minutes, and then moving on and waiting for a 240mm for $60. Just got an nr200p case and really want a side mounted AIO.

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10-16-2020 at 09:15 PM #4

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Its the "yo dog i have an itx that overheats" edition. Whoever spends $75 for a single 120mm vs a quality air cooler, gets what they deserve. Higher temps...

I agree, this is good for lower end cpus, the price of the h100 and h150 isnt even that much more, ive seen h100 go for $80 and the cooling is substantially better, I would not skimp on cpu cooling if youre running some serious processing power imo

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10-16-2020 at 09:26 PM #5

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Its the "yo dog i have an itx that overheats" edition. Whoever spends $75 for a single 120mm vs a quality air cooler, gets what they deserve. Higher temps...

Said no one who's ever had to remove an air cooler to swap RAM sticks.

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10-16-2020 at 09:49 PM #6

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Lol I'll admit I keep seeing these, arguing with myself for thirty minutes, and then moving on and waiting for a 240mm for $60. Just got an nr200p case and really want a side mounted AIO.

Side mounting is bad for aio pump on a longer run.

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10-16-2020 at 11:46 PM #7

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Said no one who's ever had to remove an air cooler to swap RAM sticks.

How often do you swap RAM sticks? Most people put their RAM in and leave it there until they're dismantling the computer for whatever reason, which is rare. I've never found myself thinking about the next time I'll have to remove my RAM sticks once I put them into the computer.

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10-17-2020 at 07:44 AM #8

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How often do you swap RAM sticks? Most people put their RAM in and leave it there until they're dismantling the computer for whatever reason, which is rare. I've never found myself thinking about the next time I'll have to remove my RAM sticks once I put them into the computer.

Or you just get a nice one with quality hardware. Noctua install like butter. Others you question if its even worth it, or if the mobo is going to snap in half. Some are so bad i just give the mobo/chip/heatsink as a bundle already installed lol.

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10-17-2020 at 01:30 PM #9

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Side mounting is bad for aio pump on a longer run.

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Lol I'll admit I keep seeing these, arguing with myself for thirty minutes, and then moving on and waiting for a 240mm for $60. Just got an nr200p case and really want a side mounted AIO.

There was a deal for a 240 cool master the other day. 55 after rebate.

If you are going vertical, you need to make sure the radiator connections are on the bottom and position the radiator so that the CPU is below the top of the radiator (like in the middle). almost every picture you see is done incorrectly. even the stuff put out by manufacturers.

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10-17-2020 at 01:33 PM #10

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There was a deal for a 240 cool master the other day. 55 after rebate.

If you are going vertical, you need to make sure the radiator connections are on the bottom and position the radiator so that the CPU is below the top of the radiator (like in the middle). almost every picture you see is done incorrectly. even the stuff put out by manufacturers.

I don't see why that would make a dimes bit of difference on a properly manufactured AIO where the air has been bled out of the lines etc.

The pump is going to have no problem moving water uphill because it's going to benefit from the siphon action of any water moving downhill ahead of it. Top mounting is nice because you benefit from convection action, but I don't feel like that's what you were getting at.

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10-17-2020 at 06:03 PM #11

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I don't see why that would make a dimes bit of difference on a properly manufactured AIO where the air has been bled out of the lines etc.

The pump is going to have no problem moving water uphill because it's going to benefit from the siphon action of any water moving downhill ahead of it. Top mounting is nice because you benefit from convection action, but I don't feel like that's what you were getting at.

it doesn't have to do with the pump having to move the water. it has to do with controlling the air in the system

Watch this video. they made viewports and filled to the same specs as aio manufacturers. it clearly shows why the only appropriate way to vertical mount is as I described (when i say vertical mount i mean a front style vertical mount). No AIO is free of air and you need to manage that air. on a flat mount the air will pool at the highest points in the radiator which is perfectly fine. in a vertical front mount the air will pool at the top of your radiator. if the in and outlet are at the top, the air will sit up there and that impededes waterflow and casuses trickle noise. if your cpu is ever the highest point of the system the air will collect on the waterblock and reduce flow and prevent proper cooling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?fea...amersNexus

i also believe their is air permeation over time so you will slowly introduce more air into the system.

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10-17-2020 at 11:17 PM #12

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it doesn't have to do with the pump having to move the water. it has to do with controlling the air in the system

Watch this video. they made viewports and filled to the same specs as aio manufacturers. it clearly shows why the only appropriate way to vertical mount is as I described (when i say vertical mount i mean a front style vertical mount). No AIO is free of air and you need to manage that air. on a flat mount the air will pool at the highest points in the radiator which is perfectly fine. in a vertical front mount the air will pool at the top of your radiator. if the in and outlet are at the top, the air will sit up there and that impededes waterflow and casuses trickle noise. if your cpu is ever the highest point of the system the air will collect on the waterblock and reduce flow and prevent proper cooling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?fea...amersNexus

i also believe their is air permeation over time so you will slowly introduce more air into the system.

Makes sense if there really is air in the AIO, but that definitely would be the result of pretty poor manufacturing.

The problem with doing it off the bottom is your cables will be blocking the airflow. I definitely have mine mounted that way and don't get any trickle noises. I'll keep an eye on it though.

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10-18-2020 at 11:09 AM #13

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How often do you swap RAM sticks? Most people put their RAM in and leave it there until they're dismantling the computer for whatever reason, which is rare.

Yeah, I've definitely never upgraded my RAM, or swapped out different RAM for testing, or reconfigured an old PC to serve a different purpose.

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I've never found myself thinking about the next time I'll have to remove my RAM sticks once I put them into the computer.

Pretty much my point.

And it's not like it's just the RAM. A small water block is far easier to work around in a variety of situations than a big ass metal fin tower. Everything from swapping fans to replacing a PSU is easier without that thing in the way.

You might get slightly better cooling out of an air cooler at this price, but it's probably not enough to make any actual difference in the performance of your PC.

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10-18-2020 at 11:07 PM #14

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Yeah, I've definitely never upgraded my RAM, or swapped out different RAM for testing, or reconfigured an old PC to serve a different purpose.

Pretty much my point.

And it's not like it's just the RAM. A small water block is far easier to work around in a variety of situations than a big ass metal fin tower. Everything from swapping fans to replacing a PSU is easier without that thing in the way.

You might get slightly better cooling out of an air cooler at this price, but it's probably not enough to make any actual difference in the performance of your PC.

Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B CPU Air Cooler. You don't have to remove the cooler it clears all the ram sticks. It's 2 screws to remove takes less than 60 seconds.

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10-21-2020 at 05:14 PM #15

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Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B CPU Air Cooler. You don't have to remove the cooler it clears all the ram sticks.

Like I said, it's not just the RAM. Good luck getting to the CPU power cable in this case: https://i.imgur.com/Co52XOc.jpg

Working on that, versus this [anandtech.com]? No thanks.

Or the M.2 drive that would be in between that cooler and the GPU.

You guys are welcome to keep your massive radiators. I greatly prefer the convenience of a sealed water block, and Corsair makes the best ones I've used.

This thing is within a degree or three of the best air coolers (https://www.guru3d.com/articles_p...ew,11.html), it's quieter than most, it's much easier to install than any air tower I've ever used, and it leaves your case much less crowded.

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