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Feb 18, 2021 3:25 PM

HP - Spectre x360 2-in-1 13.5" Touchscreen Laptop - Intel Evo Platform - Core i7 - 16GB Memory - 1TB SSD + 32GB Intel Optane - Nightfall Black - $1399.99

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Not the cheapest its been but pretty close at $300 off.

Seems pretty good for an 11th gen i7, 1tb SSD + 32 gb optane drive and OLED 3000x2000 screen.



https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-s...Id=6428660
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Not the cheapest its been but pretty close at $300 off.

Seems pretty good for an 11th gen i7, 1tb SSD + 32 gb optane drive and OLED 3000x2000 screen.



https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-s...Id=6428660

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Feb 18, 2021 3:40 PM
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hurttrainXFeb 18, 2021 3:40 PM
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Wait, optane AND an SSD? I thought optane was to give SSD-like performance to HDDs?

Edit: can it be removed to add a second SSD or is everything soldered?
Last edited by hurttrainX February 18, 2021 at 07:42 AM.
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Feb 18, 2021 7:49 PM
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UstlerFeb 18, 2021 7:49 PM
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What is this nonsense of Amazon Alexa built in? Is this software or is the laptop gonna respond even when it's off to voice prompts?
Feb 18, 2021 9:14 PM
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iindigoFeb 18, 2021 9:14 PM
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Haven't been able to verify it, but have read that on this model the OLED screen changes its brightness with PWM, which can cause headaches for some folks. Otherwise looks like a nice machine.
Feb 18, 2021 9:46 PM
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rigmasternjFeb 18, 2021 9:46 PM
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That "Optane" part is what's holding this back.
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Feb 18, 2021 10:23 PM
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UstlerFeb 18, 2021 10:23 PM
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Quote from rigmasternj View quoted comment :
That "Optane" part is what's holding this back.
Worst case scenario, ya just disable the optane in the bios. Maybe it's a combo nvme with optane to speed up subpar storage chips.
Feb 18, 2021 10:24 PM
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Slee_StackFeb 18, 2021 10:24 PM
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Bought an Open Box 6 weeks back for just over a grand.

I worry a little about OLED burn-in, but admittedly, the screen is gorgeous and worth the risk.

Its KB and trackpad is top notch. Build quality is fantastic.

It had a BT mouse stutter issue (as do most 11th gen Intel laptops), but its fixed now with a simple registry edit.

This Spectre is very pricey, but the 3:2 OLED alone is amazing.


I tried a Lenove 13s G2 for $730 and was going to pony up for a $1200 Dell XPS, but honestly...the HP is better at almost everything. (The XPS does hit 500 nits vs HP's 400)


If you don't care about fit/finish and the best display though, just buy a Ryzen for half the price.
Last edited by Slee_Stack February 18, 2021 at 02:29 PM.
Feb 18, 2021 10:25 PM
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YakinabeFeb 18, 2021 10:25 PM
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Quote from hurttrainX View quoted comment :
Wait, optane AND an SSD? I thought optane was to give SSD-like performance to HDDs?

Edit: can it be removed to add a second SSD or is everything soldered?
Optane is faster than QLC SSDs, so it still speeds up the computer. They are both on the same M.2 module, so you could remove it and replace it with a regular M.2 SSD if you really want to.

If you want more info, google "Optane Memory H10." I don't know if that's the actual module used in this laptop but it should be the same technology..
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Feb 18, 2021 11:21 PM
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fenderunbenderFeb 18, 2021 11:21 PM
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For the same price I would choose the 15" version thru Microsoft Store. Better graphics but smaller hard drive.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p...chspecstab
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Quote from fenderunbender View quoted comment :
For the same price I would choose the 15" version thru Microsoft Store. Better graphics but smaller hard drive.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p...chspecstab

That looks like it has a 10th gen intel processor vs the 11th gen too.
Feb 18, 2021 11:52 PM
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YakinabeFeb 18, 2021 11:52 PM
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Quote from fenderunbender View quoted comment :
For the same price I would choose the 15" version thru Microsoft Store. Better graphics but smaller hard drive.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p...chspecstab [microsoft.com]
The x360 14 is 0.7 lb lighter. Lightweight laptops always cost more than a heavier one with the same specs. Also, the 14 has a 16:10 display, *and* it's an OLED display.
Feb 19, 2021 2:10 AM
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Slee_StackFeb 19, 2021 2:10 AM
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Quote from Yakinabe View quoted comment :
The x360 14 is 0.7 lb lighter. Lightweight laptops always cost more than a heavier one with the same specs. Also, the 14 has a 16:10 display, *and* it's an OLED display.
Its 3:2, not 16:10. Square-er, like the Surface.

3:2 works great for general browsing and when used in portrait mode as a tablet. I also prefer it for Office app and Photshop use although some like a wider aspect ratio for Excel (eg. do you prefer seeing more rows or more columns?). As an aside, 16:9 in tablet portrait mode is just bad.

On the flip side (no pun intended), 3:2 is pretty poor if your primary use is watching videos or basic gaming. You just get fat black bars. 16:9 is definitely best for that type of consumption.

16:10 is the compromise of the bunch...a jack of all trades, master of none, so to speak.
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Feb 19, 2021 2:44 AM
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fenderunbenderFeb 19, 2021 2:44 AM
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Quote from Yakinabe View quoted comment :
The x360 14 is 0.7 lb lighter. Lightweight laptops always cost more than a heavier one with the same specs. Also, the 14 has a 16:10 display, *and* it's an OLED display.
The only reason it is lighter is because it has 13.5" display vs. a 15.6" display so obviously it is a smaller laptop. Both screens have the same specs other than aspect ratio. The processor in the 15" is only 3 months older but runs 13% faster (speed rank of 97) than the 13" (speed rank of 231). I would always rather buy something from Microsoft with their 30 return policy instead of Best Buys 15 day return.
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Feb 19, 2021 5:11 AM
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YakinabeFeb 19, 2021 5:11 AM
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Quote from fenderunbender View quoted comment :
The only reason it is lighter is because it has 13.5" display vs. a 15.6" display so obviously it is a smaller laptop. Both screens have the same specs other than aspect ratio. The processor in the 15" is only 3 months older but runs 13% faster (speed rank of 97) than the 13" (speed rank of 231). I would always rather buy something from Microsoft with their 30 return policy instead of Best Buys 15 day return.
You can't just make a laptop smaller by putting a smaller screen on it. Shedding 0.7 lb takes a lot of engineering to miniaturize the rest of the laptop. Also a 13.5" 3:2 display is pretty much the same height as a 15.6" 16:9 display, it's just a little less wide.

But if that extra lightness or the extreme contrast of an OLED panel are less important to you than a bit of extra processor speed then yes, of course you should choose the 15.6" model.
Feb 19, 2021 5:15 AM
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YakinabeFeb 19, 2021 5:15 AM
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Quote from Slee_Stack View quoted comment :
Its 3:2, not 16:10. Square-er, like the Surface.
Thank you for the correction. Even better! For most productivity work, the height of the screen is much more important than the width. It means more lines of text displayed, more rows of spreadsheet, more lines of code. It means a powerpoint slide can fill up the whole width of the screen and you still have room at the top for the menu / toolbar. It's better for web browsing as well.

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Feb 19, 2021 5:16 AM
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bluetrepFeb 19, 2021 5:16 AM
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3:2 screen, finally it moves back!

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