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Colored Union & Scale™ Ayalon Task Chairs on rare sale

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The Union & Scale™ Workplace2.0™ Ayalon Mesh Back Fabric Task Chair is a rebranded Eurotech Vera and is easily one of Staples' best office chairs. It is made of quality materials and features adjustments typically found only on high-end chairs from manufacturers like Steelcase and Haworth, including 4D-adjustable padded armrests, seat pan depth adjustment, and easily accessible tilt tension control.

Staples currently has a rare sale on colored Ayalon models - red [staples.com], teal [staples.com], and gray [staples.com]. Combine with promo code 77898 to get an extra $20 off for a final price of $249.99 (normally $299.99, which is still a great value).

Using the same promo code, the typical Black-colored Ayalon [staples.com] can be purchased for $229.99 with free next-day delivery.

https://www.staples.com/union-sca...t_24451891
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The Union & Scale™ Workplace2.0™ Ayalon Mesh Back Fabric Task Chair is a rebranded Eurotech Vera and is easily one of Staples' best office chairs. It is made of quality materials and features adjustments typically found only on high-end chairs from manufacturers like Steelcase and Haworth, including 4D-adjustable padded armrests, seat pan depth adjustment, and easily accessible tilt tension control.

Staples currently has a rare sale on colored Ayalon models - red [staples.com], teal [staples.com], and gray [staples.com]. Combine with promo code 77898 to get an extra $20 off for a final price of $249.99 (normally $299.99, which is still a great value).

Using the same promo code, the typical Black-colored Ayalon [staples.com] can be purchased for $229.99 with free next-day delivery.

https://www.staples.com/union-sca...t_24451891

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Feb 23, 2021
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The Union & Scale™ Workplace2.0™ Ayalon Mesh Back Fabric Task Chair is a rebranded Eurotech Vera and is easily one of Staples' best office chairs. It is made of quality materials and features adjustments typically found only on high-end chairs from manufacturers like Steelcase and Haworth, including 4D-adjustable padded armrests, seat pan depth adjustment, and easily accessible tilt tension control.
It is similar to the Vera but not exactly a carbon copy. It appears to be similar to the Eurotech Exchange as well. Don't be fooled by the "Eurotech" name, either--Eurotech is simply a brand slapped on chairs coming out of China from a company called Comfort Seating.

That being said--this is easily the most impressive chair that Staples sells. So impressive, that I, as someone who usually deals with only Herman Miller/Steelcase/Haworth/Knoll chairs, went to Staples to buy one of these Ayalon chairs at full price ($299+tax). I had to give it a shot at home for an extended period of time.

The backrest is very comfortable. It's not using screen-window style mesh like on the Staples Hyken/Dexley/other cheap mesh chairs. The mesh here on this chair actually has some level of elasticity, unlike the mosquito-screen mesh on your Hyken/Dexley chairs.

However, there are some important caveats to note about this chair:

1) You have to be tall. I'm 6'0. My feet were barely touching the ground while seated in this chair on its lowest setting. If you're significantly shorter than I am, then you are going to have a bad time in this chair unless you do something like get a footrest. Trust me: you don't want your feet dangling off a chair, unless you like numb thighs.

2) The armrests are "4D," but feature a limited adjustment range. Sure, they move in the same directions as a Steelcase Leap's 4D armrests, but the range of motion is even more limited than the 4D armrests on Haworth chairs. This is not a dealbreaker--but don't be fooled into thinking that you're getting Steelcase/Haworth functionality at bargain-basement prices.

3) The armrests aren't very plush. Prob not a giant deal to most people, but again--you're not getting the nicely padded armrests on Steelcase/Haworth chairs at this price point.

4) The foam seat is OK in comfort. It's made of thick, cheap foam so it feels good for the first 30 minutes but it'll start compressing in longer-term use. I'd give the seat maybe half-a-year before it significantly compresses. The thick foam is a "party trick" to make you think "wow, this is so padded and comfortable" for the 30 seconds you sit on the chair in the store. Good, dense foam unlike the foam used on this chair will last forever. I've sat in Steelcase chairs with 1/2" of 15-year-old foam and the foam still felt great.

With all that out the way--don't get me wrong--it's a good chair, but if you're like 5'5, then don't blindly order the chair without sitting on it in a store first--it's simply way too high even on its lowest setting. This is just one way in which the "real" ergonomic office chairs are separated from the cheaper office chairs--the real chairs are designed with the 5th to 95th percentile of the population in mind--that means everyone from the 5'0 secretary to the 6'4 ex-NBA player in your office. This chair feels like it was designed for people 6'0 and above.
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1) You have to be tall. I'm 6'0. My feet were barely touching the ground while seated in this chair on its lowest setting. If you're significantly shorter than I am, then you are going to have a bad time in this chair unless you do something like get a footrest.

2) The armrests are "4D," but feature a limited adjustment range.

3) The armrests aren't very plush.

With all that out the way--don't get me wrong--it's a good chair, but if you're like 5'5, then don't blindly order the chair without sitting on it in a store first--it's simply way too high even on its lowest setting. This chair feels like it was designed for people 6'0 and above.
You DO NOT have to be tall. The minimum seat height is 17.6 inches. That's good for 5'6" people with typical proportions per BIFMA [ergonomictrends.com]. Anyone shorter or with shorter legs can supplement with a cheap footrest. Besides, the average 29"-30" tall desk is too high for anyone under ~5'10" to sit in healthy posture without a footrest anyway.

Calling the armrests' range of motion "limited" is seriously underselling it. They can be shifted into perfect positions for the vast majority of people. And the armrest caps are more plush than practically any new chair in the $300 price range.

I'm not claiming the Ayalon is on par with Herman Miller. I am claiming that this is a fantastic value for a new chair that approaches high-end quality and functionality. The only way to get higher quality at this price is to buy used high-end chairs, many of which still cost more than a brand new Ayalon.
Last edited by vicss103 February 23, 2021 at 10:09 AM.
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This Staples Ayalon deserves to be cross-shopped against the SitOnIt Novo, which is designed by an American company that hires American engineers and college engineering graduates to design their chairs, and supplies chairs for major companies:

https://shop.sitonit.net/collecti...-with-arms

The Novo was clearly designed more of the population in mind: 16.75" – 20.25" is the seat height range.

https://www.officeinteriors.ca/bl...ask-chair/

https://shop.sitonit.net/collections/chairs
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Quote from TenseDeer723 :
This Staples Ayalon deserves to be cross-shopped against the SitOnIt Novo, which is designed by an American company that hires American engineers and college engineering graduates to design their chairs, and supplies chairs for major companies:

https://shop.sitonit.net/collecti...-with-arms [sitonit.net]

The Novo was clearly designed more of the population in mind: 16.75" – 20.25" is the seat height range.

https://www.officeinteriors.ca/bl...ask-chair/ [officeinteriors.ca]

https://shop.sitonit.net/collections/chairs
This chair is hardly in the same league as the Ayalon.

SitOnIt Novo Pros:
  • Adjustable lumbar support
SitOnIt Novo Cons:
  • Difficult tilt tension adjustment control (you have to reach under the seat and turn a knob, presumably with some force)
  • Armrests only height-adjustable.
  • No seat pan depth adjustment.
  • The fixed 16.5" seat depth is tiny! That's smaller than the Hyken!
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The Aeron Size B, which is designed to fit most of the population (5-95th) has a seat depth of just 17"
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timemachine
Feb 24, 2021
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Staples free shipping, free returns so no risk. I found the Hyken too small and returned it. No questions asked.

The SitOnIt mentioned in this thread has 20% restocking fee so I'll pass on that.
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Quote from timemachine :
Staples free shipping, free returns so no risk. I found the Hyken too small and returned it. No questions asked.

The SitOnIt mentioned in this thread has 20% restocking fee so I'll pass on that.

For anyone who has ever unboxed, assembled, tested and then returned an office chair I would not call it "no risk" as it's a significant investment of time and effort to test a chair in-home.

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kkel19
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got this chair during start of covid. 5'8 170lbs. Its been great using WFH. As long as you take ergo breaks, its worked well for 7-8hrs work days
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stereo345
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Doesnt seem like the coupon codes combine.
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Quote from vicss103 :
This chair is hardly in the same league as the Ayalon.

SitOnIt Novo Pros:
  • Adjustable lumbar support
SitOnIt Novo Cons:
  • Difficult tilt tension adjustment control (you have to reach under the seat and turn a knob, presumably with some force)
  • Armrests only height-adjustable.
  • No seat pan depth adjustment.
  • The fixed 16.5" seat depth is tiny! That's smaller than the Hyken!
Seat depth is adjustable. Depth is described as 16.34-18.03"D
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Quote from TenseDeer723 :
This Staples Ayalon deserves to be cross-shopped against the SitOnIt Novo, which is designed by an American company that hires American engineers and college engineering graduates to design their chairs, and supplies chairs for major companies:

https://shop.sitonit.net/collecti...-with-arms [sitonit.net]

The Novo was clearly designed more of the population in mind: 16.75" – 20.25" is the seat height range.

https://www.officeinteriors.ca/bl...ask-chair/ [officeinteriors.ca]

https://shop.sitonit.net/collections/chairs
I am using the sitonit Focus chair and it compares VERY well against the Ayalon.
The Ayalon is easily the best chair that Staples sells, and I was torn between the two chairs for a long time and I was close to buying the Ayalon The only deciding factor for me was that I found the sitonit for $300 at a local office supplier (it's normally ~$800). The fact that the Ayalon is on par with a $800 chair with full ergo controls and mesh back is fantastic. If I didn't luck out with the Focus I would have picked up the Ayalon the next time it went on sale.
Feb 24, 2021
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jnspire
Feb 24, 2021
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Would this chair be comfortable for me to WFH in or would I be better off with the Hyken? I'm 5'2", relatively thin-average build. Looking for something to last.
Feb 24, 2021
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Neil321
Feb 24, 2021
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I cannot combine the codes
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You can combine when you use this code:

9122502281790211

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This or refurbished leap v2 for 560?

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