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expired Posted by dlfdr43 • Feb 28, 2021
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ELAC Uni-Fi 2.0 UB52 Bookshelf Speakers (Pair), Black (UB52-BK) $490.07
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I must commend Andrew for being so truthful. Speaker manufacturers know it's your ears that break-in (get accustomed to) to the sound of the speakers after a while, so it's in their interest to push the myth.
I must commend Andrew for being so truthful. Speaker manufacturers know it's your ears that break-in (get accustomed to) to the sound of the speakers after a while, so it's in their interest to push the myth.
Can't say I've experienced it with speakers as pretty much all the speakers I've owned have been second hand, but for what it's worth the nightowls' drivers are supposed to be especially speaker-like.
Furthermore Andrew Jones, while a respected loudspeaker designer, is no omniscient God, it's just his opinion and experience that break in doesn't occur.
Just my $0.02 to counterpoint yours :-)
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Can't say I've experienced it with speakers as pretty much all the speakers I've owned have been second hand, but for what it's worth the nightowls' drivers are supposed to be especially speaker-like.
Furthermore Andrew Jones, while a respected loudspeaker designer, is no omniscient God, it's just his opinion and experience that break in doesn't occur.
Just my $0.02 to counterpoint yours :-)
So you're a speaker/headphone manufacturer who as spent millions upon millions of dollars, building facilities, hiring audio engineers, and everything else required to design, build, ship, and advertise your products. You want (I assume) your customers to be happy with your product. So, if your product created a sound that customers "detested" unless the product was SIMPLY played (broken-in) for 50-100 hrs, why on earth, after spending millions of dollars to make the best product you could, wouldn't you SIMPLY set up a system where you did that "burn in" BEFORE shipping the product? The products have to be plugged into an audio source and be tested anyway. Just leave them plugged up and playing for a few days. Problem solved. Now your customers will now put on their brand new headphones and think they are the best sounding headphones ever! No more negative out-of-the-box experiences, thus way less product returns.
If the materials in your headphone drivers is so malleable that they went from being "detested" to best thing evar within just a few days, they would surely wear out and fall apart within a few weeks of heavy use. Solid materials that change that fast don't just stay at that state. They would continue to change. The sound would also change. Your headphones could go back to making you "detest" the sound in just a few weeks because now the solid parts are too lose. Lol.
So you're a speaker/headphone manufacturer who as spent millions upon millions of dollars, building facilities, hiring audio engineers, and everything else required to design, build, ship, and advertise your products. You want (I assume) your customers to be happy with your product. So, if your product created a sound that customers "detested" unless the product was SIMPLY played (broken-in) for 50-100 hrs, why on earth, after spending millions of dollars to make the best product you could, wouldn't you SIMPLY set up a system where you did that "burn in" BEFORE shipping the product? The products have to be plugged into an audio source and be tested anyway. Just leave them plugged up and playing for a few days. Problem solved. Now your customers will now put on their brand new headphones and think they are the best sounding headphones ever! No more negative out-of-the-box experiences, thus way less product returns.
If the materials in your headphone drivers is so malleable that they went from being "detested" to best thing evar within just a few days, they would surely wear out and fall apart within a few weeks of heavy use. Solid materials that change that fast don't just stay at that state. They would continue to change. The sound would also change. Your headphones could go back to making you "detest" the sound in just a few weeks because now the solid parts are too lose. Lol.
My only point was to give a personal anecdote as a counterpoint to your reporting on AJ's stance on the matter and I believe I've done that.
Everyone should listen to their ears and if their speakers sound better to them after 50 hours, whether it's due to break in, adjustment, or placebo, they should just be happy. I know I am with my headphones.
My only point was to give a personal anecdote as a counterpoint to your reporting on AJ's stance on the matter and I believe I've done that.
Everyone should listen to their ears and if their speakers sound better to them after 50 hours, whether it's due to break in, adjustment, or placebo, they should just be happy. I know I am with my headphones.
I'm also saying that the entire idea of such short term (50-100 hrs is not a long time in the lifetime of a speaker) break-in of solid materials by simple flexion within their designed parameters would mean that continued use over the long term, would result in ever increasing wear, to the point of a very short lifespan of the material. Not to mention the continuous alteration of the sound they would produce in the case of speaker driver surrounds and spiders.
Can't say I've experienced it with speakers as pretty much all the speakers I've owned have been second hand, but for what it's worth the nightowls' drivers are supposed to be especially speaker-like.
Furthermore Andrew Jones, while a respected loudspeaker designer, is no omniscient God, it's just his opinion and experience that break in doesn't occur.
Just my $0.02 to counterpoint yours :-)