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Thanks this hyper extension seems like a good deal also https://sport.woot.com/offers/sta...ch-2014z-2 in for 1

Some reviews on the fan rower shows this breaks after a short period of time.
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There are no good rowers under the $900 price point. These cheap "rower type objects" are garbage. There's zero resale value if you don't like it and most of them have no support if something breaks. If you buy a Concept2 or a water rower, you'll at least be able to sell it for close to what you paid for it.
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In for the adjustable plyo box. It's a pretty versatile piece for a home gym and the reviews are good.
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There are no good rowers under the $900 price point. These cheap "rower type objects" are garbage. There's zero resale value if you don't like it and most of them have no support if something breaks. If you buy a Concept2 or a water rower, you'll at least be able to sell it for close to what you paid for it.
I always hate these types of comments because they usually come from snarky SD'ers who don't understand that deals can be had at lower price points than what they've paid.

However, In the Instance of rowers, this is 1000000% true. Either get a Concept 2 or a Xebex 2.0 (or) 3.0. There really is no comparison to these two versus the rest. I even tried to spend $799 on a Nordictrack RW500 and it was awful compared to my Xebex 3.0.

For rowers, It's worth the price In durability, build and overall ergonomics/use.
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Get a Concept 2. Problem solved.
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Purchased a proform 750r from Walmart ($599) and am happy with it after owning it for 2 weeks now. I don't think magnetic resistance is for the die hard rowers but for the average person I think it works just fine.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/ProFor.../980684165
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I generally object to all the brand allegiance on this "deal" site, often bowing to marketing hype without regard to budgets or intended use.

For example, all the Milwaukee Tool fanboys that proclaim all Black & Decker products as trash, etc—note my avatar. (Love the B&D/Porter-Cable 20V line btw.) Have some Hyper Tough tools from Walmart that are fine too.

HOWEVER, in the case of a rower, you actually *are* wasting your money on anything other than a Concept2 rower.

And yes, they are both expensive, ie close to $1000, and also hard to buy right now. But that's because they are actually that good. Well supported, huge online community, made here in the U.S., and all without a giant marketing machine behind them.
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I bought it for my wife. Probably won't get much use but for the price why not .
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Get a Concept 2. Problem solved.
If you can get one.
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Anyone need a concept 2 purchase link? I waited and got one and don't need. Pm me, let's trade, looking for Amazon gc
Wow how generous of you. Or people can get on the waiting list themselves
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Quote from thebombdotcom :
I always hate these types of comments because they usually come from snarky SD'ers who don't understand that deals can be had at lower price points than what they've paid.

However, In the Instance of rowers, this is 1000000% true. Either get a Concept 2 or a Xebex 2.0 (or) 3.0. There really is no comparison to these two versus the rest. I even tried to spend $799 on a Nordictrack RW500 and it was awful compared to my Xebex 3.0.

For rowers, It's worth the price In durability, build and overall ergonomics/use.
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I generally object to all the brand allegiance on this "deal" site, often bowing to marketing hype without regard to budgets or intended use.

For example, all the Milwaukee Tool fanboys that proclaim all Black & Decker products as trash, etc—note my avatar. (Love the B&D/Porter-Cable 20V line btw.) Have some Hyper Tough tools from Walmart that are fine too.

HOWEVER, in the case of a rower, you actually *are* wasting your money on anything other than a Concept2 rower.

And yes, they are both expensive, ie close to $1000, and also hard to buy right now. But that's because they are actually that good. Well supported, huge online community, made here in the U.S., and all without a giant marketing machine behind them.
Say I've never used a rower before. In terms of daily usage what does the Concept 2 (or Xebex mentioned) have or do that one in this range does not? I see these posts on every rower and I'm sure there's good reason, but I've rarely seen any details.
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Say I've never used a rower before. In terms of daily usage what does the Concept 2 (or Xebex mentioned) have or do that one in this range does not? I see these posts on every rower and I'm sure there's good reason, but I've rarely seen any details.
Both row. Just like a $20k car will get you to the supermarket like a $100k car.

Specifically for rowers:

* Build quality of parts is not even close. Especially the flywheel / air wheel, rotating parts, rowing chain and seat sliding mechanism. This is probably the most important difference. C2/Xebex have a long track record of being built like a tank and require little to no maintenance.
* ergonomics is vastly improved with more comfort for aggressive and/or long rowing efforts. The concept 2 has a model E and Model D, which have different seat heights... which I believe is similar to the Xebex 2.0/3.0.
* be wary of weight limitations on cheaper alternatives if you are 250+ lbs
* the concept 2 has been proven to have a more accurate power meter (Xebex being close and the rest waaay far behind) - this may or may not be important to some
* I don't recall if the C2 can fold up and stowaway but the Xebex 2.0 can fold up for less space when not in use (the 3.0 cannot fold)

As always, YMMV on needs. There's always an argument that a casual user would be just fine with a lesser quality rower and I advocate for that, but if the budget and usage allows, highly recommend the concept/Xebex. Since you mentioned daily use, the money spent on something you'll log tons of time on is well worth it. If you're going to use it a few times a year, then it's a harder decision.

Lastly, this is specific to workout based air rowers. Water rowers and rowers that have a big screen for online classes is a different market (although my NordicTrack RW500 sucked at both performance and online classes lol).
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Quote from exo :
Say I've never used a rower before. In terms of daily usage what does the Concept 2 (or Xebex mentioned) have or do that one in this range does not? I see these posts on every rower and I'm sure there's good reason, but I've rarely seen any details.
I can't speak for Xebex, but the Concept2 rower is a commercial gym quality machine. If you belong to a gym already (private or YMCA), chances are good they have one or more. In fact, that's a good way to "test drive" one before laying out this much cash. I used to use them at my local YMCA just to warm up, say for 10 minutes or so, before going to a cycling class. So I knew exactly what I was getting when I ordered mine.

Now mine is used for full workouts several times a week. And I also discovered all the cool online stuff, via a bluetooth link to my cell phone and their ErgData app.

Note: Concept2 has a longish waiting list to order rowers. I was on it for a while, then discovered (back in October), that this rower periodically comes "in stock" on Amazon *for sale by Amazon*, with free shipping for short periods of time, then goes back to only for sale by 3rd party sellers at inflated prices. If you really want one, keep checking Amazon to see if they're in stock.

And lastly, you might be able to find one used. I bet a year from now there will be plenty!
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