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Hisense - 70" Class H65 Series LED 4K UHD Smart Android TV for $499.99+FS

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It is worth getting this TV or should I wait for the H6510G series? I want to buy a 70 inch or 75 inch tv but hoping it can be under $500. My manager was able to buy a Hisence 65' 4k TV for $350 in Best Buy during Black Friday. Is this the best i can get for $500 or will there be better offers during this month?
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Quote from SmilingApple2163 :
It is worth getting this TV or should I wait for the H6510G series? I want to buy a 70 inch or 75 inch tv but hoping it can be under $500. My manager was able to buy a Hisence 65' 4k TV for $350 in Best Buy during Black Friday. Is this the best i can get for $500 or will there be better offers during this month?
So the H6510G apparently has a somewhat better panel, and the 75/85 reportedly have wide color gamut was well. Unfortunately, it doesn't have a 70-inch model, and recently the sale pricing has more been like $400 (or a bit more) for the 65 and $600 (or a bit more) for the 75.

I don't know about future sales, of course, but I would definitely not count on the 75H6510G coming down to $500 this month.

If it was me, I would (and did) spend the extra $100 for the 75H6510G, because a combination of a better panel and a 15% larger panel would be more than worth paying 20% more to me.

But this is a fair price for an ultrabudget 70 inch. I'm just not as confident it will be better than the onn, Smart, Sharp, Insignia, and so on TVs available at a similar price.
Last edited by BrianTH March 14, 2021 at 07:43 AM.
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Quote from BrianTH :

But this is a fair price for an ultrabudget 70 inch. I'm just not as confident it will be better than the onn, Smart, Sharp, Insignia, and so on TVs available at a similar price.
Brian, Hisense owns Sharp.
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Quote from IMADMUN :
Brian, Hisense owns Sharp.
Right, but the fundamental question is what panel you are getting. In this case, it appears the H6510G might have gotten a better panel than the H6570G, and I suspect it probably got a better panel than you would find in a contemporary Sharp. But I am not so sure the H6570G got a better panel than a contemporary Sharp.

Unfortunately, there is very little objective testing available for these ultrabudget models. And to be fair, there are lot, and they come and go quickly. But it does make it challenging to figure out which are equivalent or not.
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Quote from IMADMUN :
Brian, Hisense owns Sharp.
WRONG! "In 2019, Sharp regained its licensing and brand, buying back its assets from Hisense. Sharp-manufactured Sharp TVs have been back on the market since late 2019. The company is promising to incorporate new technology into its Smart TV line as it enters more markets."
https://www.lifewire.com/hisense-...ts-1847076
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WRONG! "In 2019, Sharp regained its licensing and brand, buying back its assets from Hisense. Sharp-manufactured Sharp TVs have been back on the market since late 2019. The company is promising to incorporate new technology into its Smart TV line as it enters more markets."
https://www.lifewire.com/hisense-...ts-1847076 [lifewire.com]
It had been a while since I looked at Sharp, and it does indeed look like the new Sharp Aquos TVs are back to being manufactured by Sharp. Best Buy has a 70 inch for $499 that looks pretty interesting in light of that--but not a lot of serious reviews yet it appears.
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Quote from BrianTH :
So the H6510G apparently has a somewhat better panel, and the 75/85 reportedly have wide color gamut was well. Unfortunately, it doesn't have a 70-inch model, and recently the sale pricing has more been like $400 (or a bit more) for the 65 and $600 (or a bit more) for the 75.

I don't know about future sales, of course, but I would definitely not count on the 75H6510G coming down to $500 this month.

If it was me, I would (and did) spend the extra $100 for the 75H6510G, because a combination of a better panel and a 15% larger panel would be more than worth paying 20% more to me.

But this is a fair price for an ultrabudget 70 inch. I'm just not as confident it will be better than the onn, Smart, Sharp, Insignia, and so on TVs available at a similar price.
Thank you, I think I might just spend that little extra to have a better panel and improved color if I'm gonna be watching tv for a couple of years

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Quote from SmilingApple2163 :
Thank you, I think I might just spend that little extra to have a better panel and improved color if I'm gonna be watching tv for a couple of years
For what it is worth, I really do like the colors on our 75 H6510G. I wish there was a really easy way to confirm it qualified as wide color gamut, but I tried it out with some challenging content, and I think the colors looked really natural with good gradients. Combine that with at least pretty solid contrast ratios and black uniformity, and that is a pretty nice picture quality for an ultrabudget TV! And that 15% bigger panel is not trivial either.

So yeah, when you think $100 extra over a couple years is something like 14 cents a day--If you can manage it, and you watch just a moderate amount of TV over those couple years, I'd say it is probably going to be worth it.
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WRONG! "In 2019, Sharp regained its licensing and brand, buying back its assets from Hisense. Sharp-manufactured Sharp TVs have been back on the market since late 2019. The company is promising to incorporate new technology into its Smart TV line as it enters more markets."
https://www.lifewire.com/hisense-...ts-1847076

Do you have a bulbous red nose, frizzy red afro and size 27 shoes?
Foxconn bought Sharp but they haven't had any tv's sold in the United States, therefore, current televisions with the Sharp name are Hisense manufactured. I'm not familiar with your source, Tab-TV, but I do trust what Consumer Reports [consumerreports.org] states, especially since they aren't hawking products to get affiliate sales.
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Do you have a bulbous red nose, frizzy red afro and size 27 shoes?
Foxconn bought Sharp but they haven't had any tv's sold in the United States, therefore, current televisions with the Sharp name are Hisense manufactured. I'm not familiar with your source, Tab-TV, but I do trust what Consumer Reports [consumerreports.org] states, especially since they aren't hawking products to get affiliate sales.
I guess you're the one with a bulbous red nose, frizzy red afro and size 27 shoes; you just agreed with me that Hisense doesn't own Sharp... contradicting your prior comment.Peace
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I guess you're the one with a bulbous red nose, frizzy red afro and size 27 shoes; you just agreed with me that Hisense doesn't own Sharp... contradicting your prior comment.Peace
You can't read, and get your own material.
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You can't read, and get your own material.
If you would read your own material (consumer reports) you would see that Hisense never OWNED Sharp... they LICENSED the use of the name. You never mentioned Onn and Insignia from the BrianTH comment to which you responded. Since Hisense manufactures TVs sold under their names you probably think Hisense owns them too.
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My two cents is I am not entirely sure any of this really matters in any direct sense. As I understand it, Hisense licensed the Sharp brand for North America for a period of time, and also acquired certain Sharp manufacturing facilities in Mexico. But, without personally knowing specifics, the way global supply chains work these days, very likely the panels were being sourced from somewhere else anyway.

Now it looks to me like these new Aquos-branded TVs are the first to be "manufactured" by Sharp for the U.S. market since the termination of that deal. But that doesn't necessarily tell you anything in particular about the source or quality of the panels they are using.

The aspect of all this I find a bit intriguing is in 2017, Sharp sued Hisense, claiming that Hisense was putting the Sharp brand name on low quality TVs, thereby devaluing the Sharpn brand. As I understand it, Sharp eventually dropped this lawsuit. But theoretically, at least, this means Sharp could potentially be intending to rebuild its brand value by doing things like selecting higher-spec panels to put into its U.S. television models, at least relative to whatever they were accusing Hisense of putting in Sharp-branded TVs.

But that is entirely speculative, and I wouldn't buy a TV on that basis.

All this is underscoring a rather unfortunate fact about the current television industry, which is that we typically do not have much transparency into exactly what panels are going into any given model. Obviously the companies are committed to providing panels with whatever specs and features that they actually market, but otherwise very often they give extremely limited descriptions.

So, we end up reliant on third-party testers like rtings and such to evaluate the panels, but they simply don't test enough TVs to really pin down what panel is in all these models. In fact, you can have panel variations between different sizes, and possibly even within a specific model/size over time, and none of that is being tested comprehensively.

Oh well! Personally, that means I would be reluctant to buy something like these new Sharp models unless and until they did get some serious third-party testing which provided some indication of the relatively quality of the panels they are using.

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