Arcade1Up Williams Bally Attack From Mars Pinball Digital

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05-06-2021 at 09:23 PM #2

I saw some of the 1/2 size arcade games at Microcenter over the weekend. They seemed neat and pretty solid as far as controls go.

However, I would think pinball needs a full length play field, else you can't react fast enough, and I say this as someone who's played lots of pinball.

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05-06-2021 at 09:57 PM #3

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I saw some of the 1/2 size arcade games at Microcenter over the weekend. They seemed neat and pretty solid as far as controls go.

However, I would think pinball needs a full length play field, else you can't react fast enough, and I say this as someone who's played lots of pinball.

These aren't physical tables though, they are digital pinball collections using subsets of the Zen Pinball FX tables.

Not saying they don't come with their own issues, but the playfield scale really is fine for this medium.

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05-06-2021 at 10:01 PM #4

I wouldn't buy this if it were $50. Pinball without the pinball? May as well play pinball on my computer.

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05-06-2021 at 11:51 PM #5

I gotta admit, I don't see the appeal to a pinball machine without all the clunky mechanical stuff in it!

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05-07-2021 at 12:01 AM #6

$600 for a tiny pinball machine that isn't even real pinball?! I don't even understand how it could cost so much in the first place. It's basically a box with legs, with a screen inside, with buttons on the side.

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05-07-2021 at 01:34 AM #7

xen pinball feels a lot more like a video game then a pinball machine. Kids seem to prefer zen pinball packs over the Williams table packs. I kind of agree. Regular pinball is harder and is basically designed to take you money.

Note that the whitewater table is non-playable due to physics problems. Some units also have issues with the nudge accelerometers. Zen is aware of it but hasnt announced if their will be a fix yet.

One of the big benefits though is the cabinet. This is probably the cheapest way to get a cabinet to build your own visual pinball cabinet and put a full computer inside. The screen is actually 1080p, but is only currently driven at 720p

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05-07-2021 at 05:09 AM #8

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These aren't physical tables though, they are digital pinball collections using subsets of the Zen Pinball FX tables.

Not saying they don't come with their own issues, but the playfield scale really is fine for this medium.

Thanks for the insight. I went and looked, and the BB reviews has some pictures of it clearly showing what you're saying - it's just a 'screen' imbedded in it. Disappointing.

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05-07-2021 at 06:08 AM #9

Buy at your own risk... There are many problems with this unit... some tables are unplayable.. there is a problem with some units that make the ball constantly jump around... Screen is washed out, outputs at 720 and 1up used a plexi top that is creating issues when trying to play... (people are reporting the plexi is creating weird lines on the play fields)

I am taking my unit back...

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05-07-2021 at 06:35 AM #10

The screen on this unit is clearly a point of contention as some like it and others, who are used to higher end products, hate it. Understand, this is an Arcade1Up product, so if you're looking for high-end...keep looking. That said, if you're looking to dip your toe in the hobby and have money to burn, go for it.

As for commenters here who seem to knock this because it is digital in nature, they should be ignored. They seem unaware that even low end digital pinball (like this) includes solenoids that mimic the feeling of real pinball, have accelerometers so you can nudge the table and even the plungers mimic the real thing. I'm not suggesting this particular unit does these things masterfully, but anyone who loves pinball should enjoy digital pinball, particularly the ability to play tens if not hundreds of tables at any time.

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05-07-2021 at 08:19 AM #11

Can it be pinball, without the ball?

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05-07-2021 at 08:27 AM #12

I think these first versions are going to be on deep clearance in a few months. Too many problems and complaints for them to stay at $600.

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05-07-2021 at 08:29 AM #13

Digital pinball is NOTHING like the real thing. Williams does a close version of it, but even then, it's flawed. True wizards know that a full-scale machine is something that you make love to, engaging in a dance with the table itself, becoming one with the cabinet. Zen is wacky and fun, but the feeling of disconnect is so staggering that I don't even consider it "pinball" in even the loosest of terms. :/

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