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Costco - AvertX 8-Channel 4K NVR security system with 6 4K Bullet Cameras $1299.99

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Costco has a sale on the "AvertX 8-Channel 4K NVR Cloud Managed Security Camera System with 4TB HDD and 6 4K Bullet Cameras with Smart Analytics" for $1299.99 until 6/14/21.

https://www.costco.com/avertx-8-c...29749.html

More information about the included HD448 cameras is at https://www.avertx.com/hd448-4k-i...analytics/ (which retails for $339.99 with a 100' Cat5e cable). It appears the NVR is the A800+ model at https://www.avertx.com/a800-plus-...-recorder/ (which retails for $1249). I realize the retail price may be inflated, but adding up the prices of these components that come in Costco's package comes up to about $3289.

As another data point, a 3rd party seller on newegg is selling the same package for $1689.99 at https://www.newegg.com/p/0Z2-02ED-00004.
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Costco has a sale on the "AvertX 8-Channel 4K NVR Cloud Managed Security Camera System with 4TB HDD and 6 4K Bullet Cameras with Smart Analytics" for $1299.99 until 6/14/21.

https://www.costco.com/avertx-8-c...29749.html

More information about the included HD448 cameras is at https://www.avertx.com/hd448-4k-i...analytics/ (which retails for $339.99 with a 100' Cat5e cable). It appears the NVR is the A800+ model at https://www.avertx.com/a800-plus-...-recorder/ (which retails for $1249). I realize the retail price may be inflated, but adding up the prices of these components that come in Costco's package comes up to about $3289.

As another data point, a 3rd party seller on newegg is selling the same package for $1689.99 at https://www.newegg.com/p/0Z2-02ED-00004.

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I am thinking to buy this system to replace an older one so started this thread to solicit more feedback. There was some discussion about this that started in a different Reolink thread (https://slickdeals.net/f/15077275-reolink-4k-8mp-16ch-poe-ip-smart-security-system-w-3tb-hdd-nvr-8x-8mp-cams-735-free-shipping?v=1&p=147733273#post147733273), but wanted to have a dedicated thread for further discussion.

Anyone have more info or experience with this? The company AvertX advertises that they develop the software in the U.S. and their support is also U.S. based. The hardware is imported, but it's not clear what OEM is used. It seems their main retailer is Costco (as seen at https://www.avertx.com/avertx-deals/), and no one can beat Costco's return policy.

The HD448 cameras use a 1/2" sensor, which is better than the 1/2.8" sensors that many other retail 4K camera systems have (e.g. Lorex). The camera specs also say 20 fps @ 8MP (3840 × 2160). But the specs on the A800+ NVR state "4MP HD+ resolution @ 30 images per second on all channels; 4K UHD resolution @ 10 images per second on all channels". Does this mean that the cameras are really limited to 10 fps at 4K when used with the NVR?

Is 4TB hard drive enough for this kind of system? A lot of package systems only come with 2TB or 3TB so 4TB seems good. At https://content.syndigo.com/asset...iginal.pdf, it says if using 6 cameras with 4TB, can get 30-45 days recording in a residential environment. Does this sound accurate?
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mat2000
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Quote from budster :
I am thinking to buy this system to replace an older one so started this thread to solicit more feedback. There was some discussion about this that started in a different Reolink thread (https://slickdeals.net/f/15077275-reolink-4k-8mp-16ch-poe-ip-smart-security-system-w-3tb-hdd-nvr-8x-8mp-cams-735-free-shipping?v=1&p=147733273#post147733273), but wanted to have a dedicated thread for further discussion.

Anyone have more info or experience with this? The company AvertX advertises that they develop the software in the U.S. and their support is also U.S. based. The hardware is imported, but it's not clear what OEM is used. It seems their main retailer is Costco (as seen at https://www.avertx.com/avertx-deals/), and no one can beat Costco's return policy.

The HD448 cameras use a 1/2" sensor, which is better than the 1/2.8" sensors that many other retail 4K camera systems have (e.g. Lorex). The camera specs also say 20 fps @ 8MP (3840 × 2160). But the specs on the A800+ NVR state "4MP HD+ resolution @ 30 images per second on all channels; 4K UHD resolution @ 10 images per second on all channels". Does this mean that the cameras are really limited to 10 fps at 4K when used with the NVR?

Is 4TB hard drive enough for this kind of system? A lot of package systems only come with 2TB or 3TB so 4TB seems good. At https://content.syndigo.com/asset...iginal.pdf, it says if using 6 cameras with 4TB, can get 30-45 days recording in a residential environment. Does this sound accurate?
FYI - I suspect AvertX using Hikvision OEM - you can often look at the NVRs interface and compare to online videos or screen shots, or look at camera specs and pictures and find a similar Hikvision model.

If this is a Hikvision, you can add other Hikvision OEM cameras to it to augment the kit ( typically )
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palindrome
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I'm interested to see if this is a good system as I'm also in the market to get one for residential purposes.
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NinjaGrunt
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Quote from palindrome :
I'm interested to see if this is a good system as I'm also in the market to get one for residential purposes.
Ditto
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NimaL
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I can't find if this system will accommodate ONVIF cameras. Anyone have a clue?
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mat2000
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AVX-HD448IR

Resolution: 4K/8MP (3840 × 2160)
Number of Video Streams: 2 (Primary high resolution stream for single camera view, secondary low resolution stream for multiple camera view)
Frames Per Second: 20 fps @ 8MP (3840 × 2160)
Wide Dynamic Range:True WDR, 120db
Focal Length: 2.8 mm Fixed ( I prefer 3.6-4mm lens in general as that gives me a tighter FOV typically about 90 degrees )
Image Sensor: 1/2" CMOS ( nice, larger sensor than 1/2.5" or 1/2.8" I see in some other 8MP cameras )
Field of View: 102°
Lens Adjustment: 3-Axis Ball Joint
Iris Control: F2.0 Fixed
Backlight Compensation: Yes
Auto Gain Control: Yes
Minimum Illumination @ 30IRE: 0.01 Lux (Color); 0.0 Lux (IR LED)
Day / Night: True Day / Night with IR Cut Filter
Max IR Range: Up to 100 feet (30m) from camera
Optimal IR Range: Up to 60 feet (18m) from camera
Effective Range @ 60 / 40 / 20 PPF 1: 26' / 40' / 80'

Auto White Balance Range: 2700K ~ 8000K
Privacy Masking: Yes
Compression: H.264 Enhanced Codec
MicroSD Backup Slot: Yes, up to 512GB capacity
IP Rating: IP67
Tamper/Vandal Resistant: Hardened Aluminum Chassis
Heater: No
Power Consumption: 7.5 W (Max)
Operating Temperature: -22° ~ 140°F (-30° ~ 60°C)
Cold Start Temperature: -22°F
Dimensions: 6.7" L × 2.7" W × 2.7"H
(171 × 71 × 71 mm))
Weight: 1.1 lbs (500 g)

Item Includes:
100' Cat5e camera cable, Mounting hardware, Waterproof Camera Connector ( I prefer to run bulk cable, works out better imho as I do not leave rats nests of cables some place .. )

Optional Mounts:
Junction Box

Notes: 1:
For more information about effective range and PPF, see our DIY Guide How Far Can I See with My Cameras? ( very nice to see them post this.. )
https://www.avertx.com/how-far-ca...y-cameras/
Last edited by mat2000 June 9, 2021 at 10:58 AM.
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Quote from NimaL :
I can't find if this system will accommodate ONVIF cameras. Anyone have a clue?
Hi NimaL

I suspect this system is a Hikvision OEM system, and most of those NVRs have an ONVIF setting for each channel you can enable.

AvertX may not advertise that as they want people to buy their cameras.

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letsdothedeal
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At this expense, I'd be concerned about someone stealing my security system!! Smilie
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Quote from letsdothedeal :
At this expense, I'd be concerned about someone stealing my security system!! Smilie
lol.. understood, a lot depends on how much threats and what sort of threats you see.

For some who park nice cars in their driveways, they may want better image capture in low light.

If you only need a couple of cameras on the front, you can look for getting a few decent low light performers and a used i7 newer gen PC running Blue Iris and a PoE switch...
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attempted to find a Hikvision OEM version of this..

So far I found a case which has the similar stem, but the body is round and the specs are better...

https://www.hikvision.com/en/prod...86g2-i-u-/


update:

This case looks close.. specs are off, so perhaps the internals are different.. both have 1/2" sensors .. so a closer match
https://www.hikvision.com/en/prod...D2085G1-I/
Last edited by mat2000 June 9, 2021 at 11:17 AM.
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Looks like this is a pricey version of many of the cheaper systems I've seen here often. I've used Reolink quite a bit, but this looks like it's main selling points are more commercial grade, US based tech support, slicker software and updates. The Costco reviews look good. I think if you're in the market and willing to spend this much money, might make sense. I've never personally used this brand before. That said, you can get a cheaper brand for about half the price, but will lose out on support, etc.
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Quote from mat2000 :
Hi NimaL

I suspect this system is a Hikvision OEM system, and most of those NVRs have an ONVIF setting for each channel you can enable.

AvertX may not advertise that as they want people to buy their cameras.
Wow a reply from Mat2000! I feel honored sir. You seem to be somewhat of a celebrity around here. Thank you for the info!
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I can't find any sample video clips online for these cameras. It's all their promo material, none of which show the actual footage.

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Quote from RandomV :
Looks like this is a pricey version of many of the cheaper systems I've seen here often. I've used Reolink quite a bit, but this looks like it's main selling points are more commercial grade, US based tech support, slicker software and updates. The Costco reviews look good. I think if you're in the market and willing to spend this much money, might make sense. I've never personally used this brand before. That said, you can get a cheaper brand for about half the price, but will lose out on support, etc.
Hi RandomV

These cameras are significantly better than the Reolink 8MP cameras, just compare the sensor size for a start.

The Costco return policy advantage is also a significant value imho.

Also, yes Reolink iirc does not have offices in the USA so they save on that cost..

and yes,.. never a easy jog to determine which camera kit is best ...

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