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I'm torn here. I'm literally picking up the 8 1/4" version w/rolling stand from HD today, which I ordered 3 weeks ago. Got it at the Slick Deals price of $390 after tax.
In those 3 weeks I've done nothing but watch woodworking videos (thinking I'll start as a new hobby, transitioning my trim work skills). Now I know what dados are, etc.
I figured I can just cut dados with a router, and I wouldn't want to swap out the stack in the table saw all the time, but then I got to thinking that dados using the fence on a table saw would be much more precise than "freehanding" with a router.
Thoughts?
You could build a jig with a router to do dados or get a router table with a fence too.
Everyone will have their own use case. For me, the ability to cut 4x lumber in a single pass is important. The 8.5" saw won't do that. In fact many 10" saws won't do that (this saw won't for example).
Just curious. What are you ripping 4x for?
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Positively depressing! But with the gain in popularity of woodworking during the pandemic, I've not seen anything better for a long time. At this point, below 500 seems highly unlikely before the end of the year, let alone 400...
I'm torn here. I'm literally picking up the 8 1/4" version w/rolling stand from HD today, which I ordered 3 weeks ago. Got it at the Slick Deals price of $390 after tax.
In those 3 weeks I've done nothing but watch woodworking videos (thinking I'll start as a new hobby, transitioning my trim work skills). Now I know what dados are, etc.
I figured I can just cut dados with a router, and I wouldn't want to swap out the stack in the table saw all the time, but then I got to thinking that dados using the fence on a table saw would be much more precise than "freehanding" with a router.
Thoughts?
You can cut dados with any table saw or even a circular saw. The issue is you have to make multiple passes. Depending on how often you cut dados or how many you are cutting, it might not make sense from a time perspective to set it up OR a money perspective to buy a dado stack.
I love Bourbon Moth on YT. He has videos where he cuts dados with his regular blade because he says he is lazy. My saw can take a dado stack, but the few times I have cut a dado or rabbet type joint, I just make multiple passes because I don't see a need for a dado stack. I don't do projects enough and only a slim fraction of all cuts I make would be dados.
As someone else mentioned to you, a router with a dado bit would work just as well. Lowes has a Kobalt router + table for $169 that hits I think $129 a few times per year. Next time might be Black Friday. It has great reviews and the table is apparently a bargain for the features you get - metal fence that can be adjusted independently so it could be used as a jointer. My wife just told me "no more tools until we build garage storage", which will be a while since I'm not spending a used car in lumber for it. Otherwise, I want to get said router/table combo. I also consider the Ryobi cordless since I am attached to that battery platform.
A few years ago I bought a trailer load of reclaimed lumber out of Mississippi. It's all 7-3/4 x 3-1/2. We rip these into whatever widths we need. We also rip a fair number of contemporary 4x6 "to fit" for reno jobs.
I bought a vintage Delta Commercial saw at an auction years ago with a 90* cap of 3-5/8". We can get a clean, straight rip through 3-1/2" lumber and cut it as thin as 3/8" without issues and without having to flip and resaw every cut.
It is currently OOS but I am curious if this is really worth it for 8" of more rip and 1.5" more blade vs. the 8.5" combo from HD? I don't believe it is for me but genuinely want to know.
Depends on what you need. The 10" saw is a lot more expensive and the 8-14" saw can handle about 98% of what most people will use a table saw for. If you definitely need the extra rip space, slight increase in cutting depth, or dado support, then the 10" is definitely the way to go. For most people, they'll be perfectly fine with this saw and the extra cash, though.
If you have a router, that can handle most dado needs (I personally much prefer my router for this kind of thing). The increased rip capacity on this one is definitely nice, but need for it is also somewhat specialized. As long as you have a saw that can do 24"+, you can rip a 4'x8' sheet of plywood or OSB, and that is by far the biggest requirement for most people. The cutting depth is an interesting one, 3-1/8"/2-1/4" for the 10" versus 2-9/16"/1-3/4" for the 8-1/4" saw (at 90/45 degrees). It really comes down to what you're cutting on the table saw and how often you need that extra ~1/2" of cutting depth. In my own experience, the answer has been "practically never". If you're doing something where that's needed, however, then it becomes a critical factor.
Side note, if you are doing a lot of work with 4'x8' sheets, it's worth either looking at a full-sized cabinet saw, a track saw, or building yourself some infeed/outfeed tables/extensions/etc. That goes for any portable table saw.
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In those 3 weeks I've done nothing but watch woodworking videos (thinking I'll start as a new hobby, transitioning my trim work skills). Now I know what dados are, etc.
I figured I can just cut dados with a router, and I wouldn't want to swap out the stack in the table saw all the time, but then I got to thinking that dados using the fence on a table saw would be much more precise than "freehanding" with a router.
Thoughts?
Table saw is not the only way to make a dado.
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That's a long time to wait.
Anybody know if it's easy to cancel?
I tried an order with my Freedom and all it did was charge $1 for authorization at time of order.
If you have a Citi Dividend card, use that as it will be 5% for Q3 when this ships.
In those 3 weeks I've done nothing but watch woodworking videos (thinking I'll start as a new hobby, transitioning my trim work skills). Now I know what dados are, etc.
I figured I can just cut dados with a router, and I wouldn't want to swap out the stack in the table saw all the time, but then I got to thinking that dados using the fence on a table saw would be much more precise than "freehanding" with a router.
Thoughts?
I love Bourbon Moth on YT. He has videos where he cuts dados with his regular blade because he says he is lazy. My saw can take a dado stack, but the few times I have cut a dado or rabbet type joint, I just make multiple passes because I don't see a need for a dado stack. I don't do projects enough and only a slim fraction of all cuts I make would be dados.
As someone else mentioned to you, a router with a dado bit would work just as well. Lowes has a Kobalt router + table for $169 that hits I think $129 a few times per year. Next time might be Black Friday. It has great reviews and the table is apparently a bargain for the features you get - metal fence that can be adjusted independently so it could be used as a jointer. My wife just told me "no more tools until we build garage storage", which will be a while since I'm not spending a used car in lumber for it. Otherwise, I want to get said router/table combo. I also consider the Ryobi cordless since I am attached to that battery platform.
I bought a vintage Delta Commercial saw at an auction years ago with a 90* cap of 3-5/8". We can get a clean, straight rip through 3-1/2" lumber and cut it as thin as 3/8" without issues and without having to flip and resaw every cut.
If you have a router, that can handle most dado needs (I personally much prefer my router for this kind of thing). The increased rip capacity on this one is definitely nice, but need for it is also somewhat specialized. As long as you have a saw that can do 24"+, you can rip a 4'x8' sheet of plywood or OSB, and that is by far the biggest requirement for most people. The cutting depth is an interesting one, 3-1/8"/2-1/4" for the 10" versus 2-9/16"/1-3/4" for the 8-1/4" saw (at 90/45 degrees). It really comes down to what you're cutting on the table saw and how often you need that extra ~1/2" of cutting depth. In my own experience, the answer has been "practically never". If you're doing something where that's needed, however, then it becomes a critical factor.
Side note, if you are doing a lot of work with 4'x8' sheets, it's worth either looking at a full-sized cabinet saw, a track saw, or building yourself some infeed/outfeed tables/extensions/etc. That goes for any portable table saw.
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I'd like to build some larger pieces like media consoles and wonder if anyone has had experiences cutting harder woods with this.
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