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Bass Pro Shops has Champion 5,500W/4,000W Dual Fuel Inverter Generator w/ Electric Start for $1099.99.To earn Slickdeals Cashback, before purchase, follow the cashback instructions below. Shipping is free.

Cabela's has Champion 5,500W/4,000W Dual Fuel Inverter Generator w/ Electric Start for $1099.99. Shipping is free.

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Features (details):
  • Runs on gas or propane
  • Electric start
  • EPA-certified 224cc engine
  • Gas – 5,500 starting watts and 4,000 running watts
  • Propane – 5,500 starting watts and 3,600 running watts
  • Quiet design - 61dB from 23' away
  • 3.7-gallon gas tank - 20-hour run time at 25% load
  • 20-lb. propane tank - 15 hours at 25% load
  • Outlets – one 120V 30A RV, four 120V 20A household, one 12V auto-style
  • Fuel Fill Assist LED
  • Telescoping handle
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Powerful and portable, the Champion 5,500W/4,000W Dual Fuel Inverter Generator with Electric Start delivers safe, reliable energy for your RV, campsite, pole barn, worksite, or wherever it's needed. EPA certified, this generator runs on gas or propane right out of the box without a lot of hassle thanks to its easy-to-use fuel selector dial. Designed for safety and convenience, this portable, electric-start power supply delivers 5,500 starting watts and 4,000 running watts of power. Powered by a 224cc Champion engine, this generator delivers power for up to 20 running hours at 25% load on gasoline when the 3.7-gallon fuel tank is full. With a full 20-lb. propane tank, this generator delivers 5,500 starting watts and runs for 15 hours at 25% load. This clean power generator (less than 3% THD) protects sensitive appliances plugged into the generator, while its quiet design produces just 61dB from 23' away, making it a great choice for campsites. Power outlets include a 120V 30A RV outlet, four 120V 20A household outlets with clean power, and one 12V automotive-style power outlet. The Intelligauge® with power meter lets you easily monitor voltage, frequency, and operating hours with ease. The generator's electric-start capability and EZ Start Dial simplify startups. Economy Mode monitors power consumption in real time to reduce wear and tear. With a Champion parallel kit, (not included) this inverter can connect with another similar generator to double your output power. The Fuel Fill Assist LED and Quick Touch Panel with built in LEDs make using and refueling your generator at night easy and safe. Never flat tires and telescoping handle make transport quick and easy. Weight: 118 lbs. 24.6"L x 19"W x 20.9"H. Manufacturer's 3-year limited warranty.
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Not really a deal. This is full price every day of the week.
PROS:
This was the biggest propane inverter generator I could find. (3600 watts RMS) It allows me to run sensitive electronics and not have to deal with gasoline storage/maintenance problems.
Liquid propane doesn't go bad like gasoline and you won't have to deal with smelly fumes when you spill gasoline trying refill your generator.
The best part is being able to store this long term and bring it out for emergency use.
I plan to order a battery tender and leave the battery plugged in so the electric start will be ready to go.

CONS:

Questionable build quality and 40 min wait for customer service . my video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N6ZCoZmM3I
I just received mine 2 days ago and some of the plastic panels were defective. Please make sure to inspect the generator for any damage right when you receive it. I had to call support so they could ship a replacement panel to me.
Some users mentioned this not being a slick deal, and I agree. However, I rather pay a little more now and have the convenience of being ready for a black out. I kept holding off trying to save a few hundred dollars, then when the Texas storm came I really regret not pulling the trigger.
Lastly, This is a 120v generator, so you will not be able to connect this to a transfer switch directly to your home.
The THD is less than 3%. You shouldn't have problems with any of your devices unless they are designed terribly.

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07-19-2021 at 07:58 PM.
07-19-2021 at 07:58 PM.
Quote from Tangsta35 :
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Lastly, This is a 120v generator, so you will not be able to connect this to a transfer switch directly to your home.
You can connect it to a manual transfer switch (MTS) to your home. There are 120/240v MTS. You just won't be able to power a 240v appliance.
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07-19-2021 at 08:04 PM.
07-19-2021 at 08:04 PM.
I got the 8750w inverter model (not dual fuel) for the same price. You can install the dual/tri fuel kit and it has the proper 30a 240v outlet to run your home. Thing is a beast.

**Edit** The 8750w inverter model is actually $100 cheaper than this right now. Add the tri fuel kit and you have the biggest inverter generator for under $1300
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I got the 8750w inverter model (not dual fuel) for the same price. You can install the dual/tri fuel kit and it has the proper 30a 240v outlet to run your home. Thing is a beast.

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07-19-2021 at 10:10 PM.
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I maybe be wrong, but I don't think that one was a portable inverter generator. Not quite apples to apples comparison, but that Firman seems to be a better deal.

This is the creme de la creme of why urban myths get perpetrated. A little background, i used to design datacenters and have setup lab environments and let me try to dispel horrible myths. First off there are very few items that require an inverter setup and most of them are medical devices with motors like a cpap machine, inductive loads, or items that require precise reference voltages from the line. It is a 100% myth that electronics with ac adapters in general require low thd or low ripple sine wave. I have been in countries with power worse than from a generator. Ups from 10-15 years ago had 30%thd and you lose efficiency through power factor unless you are using the dc power adapter which may cause it to buzz or heat up a tad more it will generally never hurt them. Main urban myth.

The big issues with non inverter generators is frequency control and avr. Now i will begin that almost no consumer ups regulate frequency (some do on avr and it is minimal) and that poor frequency control is the number one death of appliances that have ac motors not 120v electronics. So if you have a non inverter generator it is key to keep the engine serviced and more importantly calibrate the engine rpm to stay in an rpm that is conducive to 60hz and most are like 3600rpm. That is frequency control, you want a stable frequency for a regular ac wave for motors get it. Next is avr auto voltage regulation which is normally capacitor controlled and most decent generators will have avr adjustment and you want that at 120v rms or the like. I like to run mine a tad hot, but ymmv you dont want a voltage sag.

The last important thing is what a ups can do for you on a generator. So you have sine wave which can keep thd down and get you better power factor. Not a bad thing, but not the worst offender. Even on a generator the ups is most likely not on battery/inverter. Then you have avr which some consumer ups can monitor and some can perform minor voltage adjustments but if it gets too far out of spec the inverter comes on and you are off the battery. Note that none of these ups perform frequency correction so if you have a bad frequency this could be dangerous to ac motors and say a cpap machine. Most decent consumer ups use a line interactive or the like which means that its passing through the mains power and outside avr if it has it, its just looking for power and voltage anomalies. Cheaper ones dont have avr and may use offline topology.

Now one could easily run a regular generator and still have a critical device like a cpap on a special ups called online or double conversation which takes ac to dc to ac and cleans up the power profile totally even from dirtier sources. Yes it seems redundant but for critical equipment not a bad idea even if you dont use a generator and run off the grid to use an online ups on a critical device like this.

Inverter generators are not bad at all, they take away poor maintenance and have better avr and many have much cleaner pulses with much lower thd and are often quieter and more energy efficient because they dont rely on constant rpm like a normal generator.

So i am not dissuading anyone from using an inverter generator and they are the best, but i also want to inform people that the basis for why you cant use a regular generator or what a ups can do are often flat out wrong.

In my case i use an open frame generator because i need split phase and the electricians that ran power to my circuits were judicious with mwbc and stuff i need are on those shared circuits. Yes you can get a 230v inverter generator but they are very expensive and for the 1-2 times i use it every 5 years i dont really need one but yes one would be better. I can adjust mine because i know how and have the test equipment to calibrate it. I recommend to folks where there are frequent outages or you are using them for remote power like an rv yes get the inverter generator, because of the efficiency, slack, and less risk of potential equipment faults.

Hth.
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This is the creme de la creme of why urban myths get perpetrated. A little background, i used to design datacenters and have setup lab environments and let me try to dispel horrible myths. First off there are very few items that require an inverter setup and most of them are medical devices with motors like a cpap machine, inductive loads, or items that require precise reference voltages from the line. It is a 100% myth that electronics with ac adapters in general require low thd or low ripple sine wave. I have been in countries with power worse than from a generator. Ups from 10-15 years ago had 30%thd and you lose efficiency through power factor unless you are using the dc power adapter which may cause it to buzz or heat up a tad more it will generally never hurt them. Main urban myth.

The big issues with non inverter generators is frequency control and avr. Now i will begin that almost no consumer ups regulate frequency (some do on avr and it is minimal) and that poor frequency control is the number one death of appliances that have ac motors not 120v electronics. So if you have a non inverter generator it is key to keep the engine serviced and more importantly calibrate the engine rpm to stay in an rpm that is conducive to 60hz and most are like 3600rpm. That is frequency control, you want a stable frequency for a regular ac wave for motors get it. Next is avr auto voltage regulation which is normally capacitor controlled and most decent generators will have avr adjustment and you want that at 120v rms or the like. I like to run mine a tad hot, but ymmv you dont want a voltage sag.

The last important thing is what a ups can do for you on a generator. So you have sine wave which can keep thd down and get you better power factor. Not a bad thing, but not the worst offender. Even on a generator the ups is most likely not on battery/inverter. Then you have avr which some consumer ups can monitor and some can perform minor voltage adjustments but if it gets too far out of spec the inverter comes on and you are off the battery. Note that none of these ups perform frequency correction so if you have a bad frequency this could be dangerous to ac motors and say a cpap machine. Most decent consumer ups use a line interactive or the like which means that its passing through the mains power and outside avr if it has it, its just looking for power and voltage anomalies. Cheaper ones dont have avr and may use offline topology.

Now one could easily run a regular generator and still have a critical device like a cpap on a special ups called online or double conversation which takes ac to dc to ac and cleans up the power profile totally even from dirtier sources. Yes it seems redundant but for critical equipment not a bad idea even if you dont use a generator and run off the grid to use an online ups on a critical device like this.

Inverter generators are not bad at all, they take away poor maintenance and have better avr and many have much cleaner pulses with much lower thd and are often quieter and more energy efficient because they dont rely on constant rpm like a normal generator.

So i am not dissuading anyone from using an inverter generator and they are the best, but i also want to inform people that the basis for why you cant use a regular generator or what a ups can do are often flat out wrong.

In my case i use an open frame generator because i need split phase and the electricians that ran power to my circuits were judicious with mwbc and stuff i need are on those shared circuits. Yes you can get a 230v inverter generator but they are very expensive and for the 1-2 times i use it every 5 years i dont really need one but yes one would be better. I can adjust mine because i know how and have the test equipment to calibrate it. I recommend to folks where there are frequent outages or you are using them for remote power like an rv yes get the inverter generator, because of the efficiency, slack, and less risk of potential equipment faults.

Hth.
Thank you for informing me about these "myths." Funny that you mentioned CPAP. We actually have a ResMed AirSense 10 CPAP and Phillips DreamStation Go CPAP.

Perhaps someone with your background and level of expertise could "easily" run a CPAP off a non-inverter generator, but I doubt many consumers will have your level of expertise and want to bother doing all these conversions and troubleshooting issues when something doesn't work. I want something simple and low/no maintenance.

I justified this purchase as an All In One solution. Sure, you can buy a base model SUV and put a whole bunch of after market parts to make it go off road; or lazy people like me can just buy a Rubicon and call it a day.
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I got the 8750w inverter model (not dual fuel) for the same price. You can install the dual/tri fuel kit and it has the proper 30a 240v outlet to run your home. Thing is a beast.

**Edit** The 8750w inverter model is actually $100 cheaper than this right now. Add the tri fuel kit and you have the biggest inverter generator for under $1300

Ya but yours is open frame. They are louder and thus not ideal for camping. 72db vs 61db @ 23 feet is a huge difference. A lot of campgrounds won't allow something as loud as that.
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Repped you but one review - Do your research before you buy this generator. Understand what THD (total harmonic distortion) is and how it will affect your home electronics. I had to call Firman to find out this unit has a THD of 25% which is off the charts high and will destroy sensitive electronics and expensive appliances. I'm really disappointed that the Costco buyers would put such a low quality product on their shelves. Costco members expect and server better.

But another said - An easy and inexpensive way to get around the dirty power issue for computers and televisions is to use a high-quality battery-backup uninterruptible power supply that provides clean AC to devices plugged into it. This is a good idea anyways — even electricity from the utilities isn't slways "clean."
I got an APC UPS from costco for $229 and have my tv, cable box, internet modem, and computer plugged in.

A UPS will not "clean up" dirty power. We use generators and UPS's a lot and most UPS's won't even work on a non-inverter generator, they will just beep/not turn on/run on battery. When using a non-inverter generator we just have to use regular surge protectors, and they do NOT clean up the power.
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