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PNY XLR8 CS3030 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe Gen3 x4 $99.99

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PNY XLR8 CS3030 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe Gen3 x4 SSD. DRAM cached drive rated at 3500MB/s read/ 3000MB/s write. Lowest Amazon price since release.

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PNY XLR8 CS3030 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe Gen3 x4 SSD. DRAM cached drive rated at 3500MB/s read/ 3000MB/s write. Lowest Amazon price since release.

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Aug 27, 2021
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beersy
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Our community has rated this post as helpful. If you agree, why not thank beersy

PNY changed components on this SSD recently w/o changing the model #. The endurance has been drastically reduced and probably perf as well.
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J.treehorn
Aug 27, 2021
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<blockquote>beersy<p>PNY changed components on this SSD recently w/o changing the model #. The endurance has been drastically reduced and probably perf as well.</p></blockquote><p>

Exactly. This was reviewed as a very good value before the slimy changes were made to it by PNY. It's hard to know how much performance and endurance was lost or will be lost in the future if PNY continues to put cheaper components into it.</p>
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max1001
Aug 27, 2021
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Quote from beersy :
PNY changed components on this SSD recently w/o changing the model #. The endurance has been drastically reduced and probably perf as well.
Not just PNY. All of them had been doing it, including Samsung. It's basically a crapshoot now.
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Sahrin
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Quote from beersy :
PNY changed components on this SSD recently w/o changing the model #. The endurance has been drastically reduced and probably perf as well.
FWIW, I was not able to find a source saying components had changed in a way that affected drive throughput, just that they cut the endurance (by a factor of 5). The warranty period (5 years) stayed the same.

I will say, to their credit, PNY wasn't "caught" swapping components - what happened was they updated the spec sheet they were publishing to reflect the characteristics of the new component (specifically, new NAND was sourced that had much lower endurance).

This is different than, e.g., Samsung secretly swapping components and sequential writes dropping 50%.
Last edited by Sahrin August 28, 2021 at 07:50 AM.
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WingsOfF
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Quote from Sahrin :
FWIW, I was not able to find a source saying components had changed in a way that affected drive throughput, just that they cut the endurance (by a factor of 5). The warranty period (5 years) stayed the same.

I will say, to their credit, PNY wasn't "caught" swapping components - what happened was they updated the spec sheet they were publishing to reflect the characteristics of the new component (specifically, new NAND was sourced that had much lower endurance).

This is different than, e.g., Samsung secretly swapping components and sequential writes dropping 50%.
Yes, there is no evidence components were swapped without spec changes or that performance decreased. This is like a manufacturer decreasing a warranty from X years to Y years. Doesn't necessarily mean it won't last X years or perform worse.

They have also issued a clarification that people who bought prior to the change will get the full warranty up to the original TBW.

They should still have changed it to V2 if not a different model number.

Adata is at the other end of sliminess where the component performance was considerably degraded and they tried to get away without even updating the spec.

Samsung case is a bit more nuanced. They changed the caching to improve burst write speeds which it did but the new design had a side effect of reducing performance for sustained writes after about 115GB in that same continuous writing. A little different from swapping out for cheaper or worse components.

They did change the Serial Number after the change and the package design but model number remained the same. I guess there is a significant business cost in creating new model numbers and SKUs for even legitimate reasons.

Unfortunately, people spread FUD without understanding details which lets the real slime balls off the hook under "they all do it".

Having said that the recent GameStop deal for this one at $64 (and not a pricing error) has set a very low bar for what would be a good deal on this. PNY has themselves to blame. Smilie
Last edited by WingsOfF August 28, 2021 at 11:22 AM.
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Sahrin
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Quote from WingsOfF :
Yes, there is no evidence components were swapped without spec changes or that performance decreased. This is like a manufacturer decreasing a warranty from X years to Y years. Doesn't necessarily mean it won't last X years or perform worse.

They have also issued a clarification that people who bought prior to the change will get the full warranty up to the original TBW.

They should still have changed it to V2 if not a different model number.

Adata is at the other end of sliminess where the component performance was considerably degraded and they tried to get away without even updating the spec.

Samsung case is a bit more nuanced. They changed the caching to improve burst write speeds which it did but the new design had a side effect of reducing performance for sustained writes after about 115GB in that same continuous writing. A little different from swapping out for cheaper or worse components.

They did change the Serial Number after the change and the package design but model number remained the same. I guess there is a significant business cost in creating new model numbers and SKUs for even legitimate reasons.

Unfortunately, people spread FUD without understanding details which lets the real slime balls off the hook under "they all do it".

Having said that the recent GameStop deal for this one at $64 (and not a pricing error) has set a very low bar for what would be a good deal on this. PNY has themselves to blame.
I agree with everything you said.
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Frank_Nitty
Aug 30, 2021
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At that low of a price, I can make a lucky guess that there were some manufacturer shortcuts made on this item.
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