KINGSTON Renegade RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Desktop PC Memory

Good ram? I currently have 32gb in my pc and need to upgrade to 64gb (lots of video editing in premiere and after effects). Specs are an 3700x and the board is an x-470f gaming edition so would these all work together okay?

Quote from Eragorn : Good ram? I currently have 32gb in my pc and need to upgrade to 64gb (lots of video editing in premiere and after effects). Specs are an 3700x and the board is an x-470f gaming edition so would these all work together okay?

What memory do you currently have in the system? Most DDR4 modules will work together fine these days (Ryzen 3000 series chips had good memory controllers), but can only run as fast as the slowest memory in your system (unless you know how to overlock or manually set clocks/timings/voltage).

Optimal thing to do would be to just buy 64Gb of the matching memory and sell your existing 32GB kit. Less worry about compatibility that way.

Here's a good review of the Kingston Renegade memory:
https://hexus.net/tech/reviews/ra...6rb1ak232/

Quote from DealHo : What memory do you currently have in the system? Most DDR4 modules will work together fine these days (Ryzen 3000 series chips had good memory controllers), but can only run as fast as the slowest memory in your system (unless you know how to overlock or manually set clocks/timings/voltage). Optimal thing to do would be to just buy 64Gb of the matching memory and sell your existing 32GB kit. Less worry about compatibility that way. Here's a good review of the Kingston Renegade memory: https://hexus.net/tech/reviews/ra...6rb1ak232/ [hexus.net]

This - https://www.amazon.com/Ballistix-...B07M5RLSG1

It's no longer in production I believe.

Quote from Eragorn : This - https://www.amazon.com/Ballistix-...B07M5RLSG1 [amazon.com] It's no longer in production I believe.

Those are 3200MHz, so you'd be losing a little bit of performance as the Kingston kit would downlock and operate at the DDR4-3200 speed if you use XMP (DOCP or A-XMP on AMD motherboards).

Personally, I would sell the Crucial kit (you should be able to sell them for around $100-120 on craigslist/offerUp/FB marketplace) so you can get the extra speed (the sweetspot for Ryzen 3000/5000 CPUs is DDR4-3600). Plus the two kits would look really ugly together in the build; would drive me nuts. 😆

These are the high end sticks in the Fury line comparable to G.Skill Tridents and Ballistix Elite if not better than them. Much better performance and overclocking ability with tighter timings than the Crucial Ballistix, Corsair Vengeance and G.Skill Ripjaw V sticks which fall at or below the lower tier Fury Beast line.

For RGB sticks in this performance line, this is not a bad price at all. SK Hynix DJR. Not quite Samsung B-Die fame but good alternative at a cheaper price. You can google for people's experiences with specific boards and CPUs for this die.

On overclocking, a lot of people go chasing clock frequency with loose timings and high voltages and think they have a faster memory. Not always. Doing Passmark or other benchmarking will show them doing worse than their rated XMP profiles in throughput. Very few people do the benchmark tests.

A stick isn't fit for overclocking unless you can increase frequency and tighten timings and have it stable at or less than 1.45V. Most clock jocks don't get this.

Do not mix memory kits. You are just asking for stability issues. Best to buy 64GB if you need.

is this better than the F4-4000C18D-32GTZN that was on the FP for $140?

Quote from KiraOfTheSky : is this better than the F4-4000C18D-32GTZN that was on the FP for $140?

Comparable in performance if overclocked to same but not comparable in convenience for Ryzen builds. Think of the Trident Z Neo sticks as factory overclocked versions (like in GPU OC variations) of a lower clock, so you can get a high clock stick with timings optimized for that clock. So, you just plop them in (and assuming the MB does not have issues) they work without you having to fiddle with overclocking. You would need to do quite a bit of work to get these sticks to work at the stock level of the higher clocked Trident Neo.

If you are not manually overclocking then the G.Skills come off the shelf at a higher clock assuming your MB is capable of taking the XMP profile at the higher rated speed.

With Intel CPUs, you likely won't notice any difference in performance. Buy whatever is cheapest at the time.

Quote from DealHo : What memory do you currently have in the system? Most DDR4 modules will work together fine these days (Ryzen 3000 series chips had good memory controllers), but can only run as fast as the slowest memory in your system (unless you know how to overlock or manually set clocks/timings/voltage). Optimal thing to do would be to just buy 64Gb of the matching memory and sell your existing 32GB kit. Less worry about compatibility that way. Here's a good review of the Kingston Renegade memory: https://hexus.net/tech/reviews/ra...6rb1ak232/

Don't mix memory. It can work, but can also cause weird problems. Just don't do it!

Quote from Eragorn : This - https://www.amazon.com/Ballistix-...B07M5RLSG1 It's no longer in production I believe.

Yeah they'll work fine. Mixing memory is ok, you might lose out on the tiniest of performance, but a lot of people here think every frequency and timing needs to match or the world's gonna end. If you're a perfectionist, sure, but if you just need extra capacity for your workload, go for it.

When you do set XMP, just make sure the speed is set to the slowest module and highest latency to ensure that it won't crap (3200mhz in this case).

Sold out?

Quote from bobcow : Do not mix memory kits. You are just asking for stability issues. Best to buy 64GB if you need.

Quote from SensibleAction6078 : Don't mix memory. It can work, but can also cause weird problems. Just don't do it!

As someone who has been building/repairing PC's for 25+ years now, I will say that this is old-school thinking (first gen DDR3 and earlier). While it might be sub-optimal, mixing modern memory modules no longer causes that many issues (if you're running them at stock speeds / XMP profiles). I have built dozens of PC's that have been running mixed DDR3-1600 modules for over a decade without a single issue and I've worked on hundreds more. DDR4 is even more forgiving as memory controllers have become smarter and more robust.

The only time you'll run into stability issues is if you're:
1) overclocking / manually setting timings (which 95+% of users are not going to do)
2) mixing single rank and dual rank modules (and even this is not usually a problem for most modern memory controllers to handle)
3) running at the top end of the module's stock speed/voltage/timings already

If you running a locked Intel or 1000/2000 series AMD Ryzen, you'll be limited in speed anyway, so mixing a DDR4-3200 kit with a DDR4-3600 kit wouldn't really be an issue since you'll be usually be running at the max supported speed of the CPU. In the case presented by Eragorn, he's got a 3700X (which I still have on my test bench) and I've never had any issues mixing memory modules and then running benchmarks. Again, it's not optimal, but it will work the vast majority of the time.

be awared that you have to pay for the shipping label if you wish to return.

Quote from UniqueRock521 : Sold out?

Yeah, looks they're all gone at this price. I'll notify the mods that the deal is expired.