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Completely get it. Not really a subjective opinion and doesn't require persuasion. Each person needs to consider what tool they need/want, evaluate the options (HD/Lowe's/Ace/Azn/Walmart etc.), research the given quality and make a decision. I'm by no means implying HF is the way to go for "most" items or that it's the same deal it used to be.

If you need a 1/2 in torque wrench, $18 at HF gets you there w/ acceptable quality/accuracy. Try finding anything under $50 at HD or Lowes. If you need a metric set of allen sockets, try beating $10 at HF. If you have a spot, please let me know. I have no loyalty to HF and sincerely want the best deal. If however you're implying the occasional "Black Friday" or slickdeal price for a Husky set of whatever comes close to HF...then sure. If you're implying HD's "everyday" price for Husky is w/in 10% of Pittsburg equivalent, I disagree.

Not at all debating their Bauer/Earthquake etc. power tools. Not at all interested in those at HF.

It's a free country. Don't get mad because people don't want to be ripped off

It's a free country. Don't get mad because people don't want to be ripped off

Right now it doesn't seem much like a free country.

Are you being ripped off? Heck no! No one is forcing you to buy from HF. But if you do and the product isn't all you fantasized it should be then HF will replace it or give you a refund.

"If for any reason you are not satisfied with an item purchased from Harbor Freight Tools, you may return the product within 90 days for a full refund or replacement, whichever you prefer. The limited warranty term is 90-day beginning on the date of invoice. You must provide the original receipt to receive an exchange or refund."

https://www.harborfreight.com/cus...hange.html [harborfreight.com]

It's because of the grifters who brought their entire family in to get the free gifts when you didn't need to make a purchase so they could sell the screwdriver sets, multimeters, magnet dishes, flashlights and batteries at their cheesy flea market tables for 100% profit. Yeah I guess they are mad, TFB.

Buy it if you need it, does not matter to me. This is the way I feel about it. Was not expecting Snap On quality, was expecting a cabinet that didn't slide 2" across the floor every time I opened a drawer. At $289, I found a solution that worked for me. Knowing the problem with this product, $360 it is not a great deal. Maybe someday the supply chain will sort out their problems and costs may come down some. Harbor Freight is not Sears, they will survive this mess.

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The groups you subscribed to were chasing the free siht. So, it would make sense that when that slowed down, there was not much to discuss.

This so called 'premium' is business ----increasing costs, that are absolutely government created with bias, are passed onto the consumer. It is not 'like everyone else' when DeWalt, Klein and others evade the tariffs that are also passed on to the consumer by being 'Made in the USA with global materials' that is basically the final packaging. Even exports from Hong Kong that was consumed by China, but still maintains the Hong Kong dollar instead of the Chinese Yuan works well for the likes of Chinese owned Milwaukee to evade the tariffs. Others in mainland China ship to Taiwan for final packaging, etc. The biased playing field is not equal by any stretch, but they all endure the massively increased shipping costs.

Every whiner in this thread is whining about no more free siht, no more coupons, but that is not totally true. Although most have never ran a successful lemonade stand, somehow, while opening more new stores and making similar annual profits, 'HF is going to be closing it's doors.' ...lol... Harbor Freight has a load of decent tools and equipment that are more than often the same as labeled by many, many other brands at a cheaper cost. Prior, we had most purchases delivered for the flat rate per order because of the type of clientele free always attracts. Personally, I like the changes made and so do the bean counters at HF.... 'Free' has never paid the bills, while there are still coupons and even better deals to be found with a little effort.

I'm looking for a budget cordless drill for around-the-house tasks. Which one from HF is generally recommended?

It's honestly a little bizarre the way you are crusading in favor of Harbor Freight's new unpopular business model. Nobody is making a moral argument (except you) and the only reason I can think of why you keep pointing out that "old" HF customers were degenerate freeloaders is because there's no way you could argue that empty stores and upset customers indicate that the business is doing well. Harbor Freight used to have good deals. They offered the deals because the deals were profitable, as evidenced by the rapid expansion and general popularity of HF. They did not offer the deals as a public service.

Now they stopped offering deals and evolved their business model in a couple other ways. It may be too soon to tell 100% whether the strategy is working, but the empty stores and upset customers are not a good sign. Maybe you're right, and these customers were all a drain on HF profits while their real profitable market was you and a couple of your non-freeloading friends, (did you refuse to use coupons when they were available? Only buy products you knew were a bad deal? Unclear.) And in your view HF is only pissing off the freeloaders, so they're making money in empty stores. There's no way to know for sure as of today. HF is privately held, so we cant read their financials. But it's not unreasonable for customers who were ill-served by the recent changes to be annoyed about the changes and think HF is not benefitting from them.

You DO NOT want to invest in Harbor freight cordless tools if you plan on keeping it for a while.

HF has a long history of changing the battery interface every few years so if you need a new battery down the line in 4 years there is a good chance you won't find one because they've been discontinued.

for DIY type people Ryobi is the best budget tool line. They haven't changed their battery interface in a long time. If you need a battery for one of their cordless tools made in 2000 there is no problem finding one online or at most home stores.
Wait for Black Friday you can get one for under $50 or look to direct tools outlet for a warrantied refurb.

You DO NOT want to invest in Harbor freight cordless tools if you plan on keeping it for a while.

HF has a long history of changing the battery interface every few years so if you need a new battery down the line in 4 years there is a good chance you won't find one because they've been discontinued.

for DIY type people Ryobi is the best budget tool line. They haven't changed their battery interface in a long time. If you need a battery for one of their cordless tools made in 2000 there is no problem finding one online or at most home stores.
Wait for Black Friday you can get one for under $50 or look to direct tools outlet for a warrantied refurb.

Quote from ToolDeals : . Let me see, a drill, battery and charger for $25, or a decent Ryobi for $100 that the average city dwelling homeowner might use a couple times per year? Today's lithium batteries last for years, that means that cheap HF drill will probably last for years, but a corded drill will still be running 20 years or more. Meanwhile, HF will also have BF deals. Personally, besides some of their lights, Ryobi is residential build quality. But, I get it where people cannot afford/justify a quality tool they are not using day in and day out. I even bought two of Ryobi's portable air compressors that compared to DeWalt or Milwaukee, are also junk, but ok for the occasional usage. In conclusion, the poster asked about a deal at HF. If I were to recommend a seldom used battery drill for the homeowner, it would have to be Ridgid with their free LSI, or Lifetime Service Agreement.

yes a cheap $25 drill that won't be compatible with any other cordless tools outside of ones made in the next 18 months with poor build quality and only a 90 day warranty

Or a $50 name brand Ryobi tool with a one year warranty and a battery that is compatible with 20 years worth of tools that you can pick up used all over the place or any new tool they make.

Where you pulled out the $100 price point is ridiculous. The one you are shilling is a brushed tool and not in the same tier as the one you're supposedly comparing it to. The guy clearly wants what you call "residential build quality" but you ignore the whole benefit of getting into a stable battery ecosystem the way Dewalt, Milwaukee and yes, Ryobi use but Harbor Freight does not. I picked up blue new old stock 5 1/2 Ryobi saw that was tool only for ten bucks from marketplace because it was tool only and it works with any 18v Ryobi made in my adult life.

You are steering this guy into a dead end for god knows what reason when its clearly an inferior and bad choice for a new tool user just to make it seem like you are right. You are not.

Not me.... Yukon is their cheapest, then U.S. General and the top end is the ICON. You bought the cheapest they had, whereas U.S. General with 22" depth and various colors is a good box.

They all move until you get some weight in them, but the heavier boxes move a lot less because of their weight. For the most part, the shipping weight for the same size box is an indication of quality. And then the quality of slider weight capacity, single or dual, etc. My biggest problem with buying in quantity is they often arrive with a dent someplace that appeared like they were packaged that way. You need to inspect before leaving and get resolved.

NO, did you ever look at the casters on this cabinet? I did not get it for free, so I expect that it should work. I have bought low cost casters for other equipment and they do lock down properly. And no again to the dent issue. Handling and packaging were well done.

I'm not saying don't buy it, I'm saying it has an issue and at this price it is really not a hot deal. Sounds like your saying, It's bottom of the line, don't buy it.

NO, did you ever look at the casters on this cabinet? I did not get it for free, so I expect that it should work. I have bought low cost casters for other equipment and they do lock down properly. And no again to the dent issue. Handling and packaging were well done.

I'm not saying don't buy it, I'm saying it has an issue and at this price it is really not a hot deal. Sounds like your saying, It's bottom of the line, don't buy it.