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Every creality printer needs upgrades because of the cheap plastic junk they come with and the tolerances of some of the machined parts. The stock extruders are garbage even on their best printers and are the single reason people give up on 3d printing. The bed leveling springs aren't even close to adequate and cause bed leveling issues which again is another reason people give up. None of the cables have strain relief which causes them to prematurely break and cause shorts which causes the printer to randomly fail heating. The Bowden tubes allow too much play and causes random under/over extrusions. Until recently getting a bed that wasn't warped was next to impossible so using a mirror or a glass bed was basically required.
I'm not saying don't buy one but don't buy one with the expectation that you're just going to pull it out of the box and its going to print flawlessly because that's almost never the case. These printers require constant maintenance and fine tuning and if neglected one failure will domino into another and sorting it out at that point is a nightmare because simply changing anything can throw the printer out of tolerance and unless you know specifically what you'll beat your head against a wall trying to figure it out.
Communities like reddit can help but you can ask a question and get 100 different answers that to some degree are technically correct because some failures cause the same symptoms so relying on those answers can lead you to modify something that really wasn't the issue and only make the problem worse.
If you want a solid printer buy the ender 5 and replace the extruder with a bondtech or a BMG Clone. Its a direct replacement and all you have to do is set your esteps to 415 and make sure the bed is level. If you have adhesion issues throw some glue stick or hair spray down. Your first prints should be strain relief's for the bed and for the extruder. Next should be support arms to fix the one major issue with this printer which is the cantilever bed. Unless you're printing anymore than PLA the hot end is adequate but isn't an all metal hot end so if you do plan to move to other filaments you'll have to upgrade that to an all metal. Find a known working profile for your slicer and run some temp towers to find the best settings for your filament and then move to calibration cubes to see what you may have to adjust. The ender 5 frame design makes it a solid printer with a few minor flaws that is basically set and forget once you've addressed its few shortcomings.
That Ender 5 is looking super appealing for a first 3d printer. Also the youtube video they have on the product page showing someone taking it completely through a first print on default equipment was really reassuring to me after reading many posts on 3d printers and hitting giant walls of texts on 'required' upgrades.
That Ender 5 is looking super appealing for a first 3d printer. Also the youtube video they have on the product page showing someone taking it completely through a first print on default equipment was really reassuring to me after reading many posts on 3d printers and hitting giant walls of texts on 'required' upgrades.
Most don't really need upgrades. It's just that the kind of people buying 3d printers tend to be the kind of people that mess with stuff relentlessly.
I picked up the refurbished ender 3 v2 on the last deal and it arrived today. Also got a bunch of upgrades I'm not expecting amazing prints from it, I like to tinker. I think it will be a good entry into 3d printing
Many, if not most, Creality printers are going to need a fix or upgrade pretty quick. I wish Slickdealers would stop glorifying the brand. Following advice here, tried a Creality Ender 3 Pro, and it was total junk. Some people get winners right out the gate with Creality but stop acting like it's extremely common to just get a working, great printer from Creality.
It's not common for them to be great printers out of the box. You are getting what you pay for.
Did the motors or electronics not work? Or was it damaged in shipping? I'm not sure how it would be a dud out of the box otherwise. People just don't take time time to research and troubleshoot.
That Ender 5 is looking super appealing for a first 3d printer. Also the youtube video they have on the product page showing someone taking it completely through a first print on default equipment was really reassuring to me after reading many posts on 3d printers and hitting giant walls of texts on 'required' upgrades.
Only upgrade I have found was a must for mine was an aluminum extruder. My plastic one started slipping and failed
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the ender 5 pro is pretty great out of the box, especially since it has a preinstalled silent board. (old ones liked to sing when the motors moved).
most 3d printer hobbyists like to tinker with their printers and fine tune them and experiment. I find that half my prints are printer upgrades lol. (cable holders, fan mounts, extended legs) etc.
and for the Ender 5 a dual z mod, or printed bed supports.
None of that is required to get started though, its a great printer out of the box.
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Most don't really need upgrades. It's just that the kind of people buying 3d printers tend to be the kind of people that mess with stuff relentlessly.
Every creality printer needs upgrades because of the cheap plastic junk they come with and the tolerances of some of the machined parts. The stock extruders are garbage even on their best printers and are the single reason people give up on 3d printing. The bed leveling springs aren't even close to adequate and cause bed leveling issues which again is another reason people give up. None of the cables have strain relief which causes them to prematurely break and cause shorts which causes the printer to randomly fail heating. The Bowden tubes allow too much play and causes random under/over extrusions. Until recently getting a bed that wasn't warped was next to impossible so using a mirror or a glass bed was basically required.
I'm not saying don't buy one but don't buy one with the expectation that you're just going to pull it out of the box and its going to print flawlessly because that's almost never the case. These printers require constant maintenance and fine tuning and if neglected one failure will domino into another and sorting it out at that point is a nightmare because simply changing anything can throw the printer out of tolerance and unless you know specifically what you'll beat your head against a wall trying to figure it out.
Communities like reddit can help but you can ask a question and get 100 different answers that to some degree are technically correct because some failures cause the same symptoms so relying on those answers can lead you to modify something that really wasn't the issue and only make the problem worse.
If you want a solid printer buy the ender 5 and replace the extruder with a bondtech or a BMG Clone. Its a direct replacement and all you have to do is set your esteps to 415 and make sure the bed is level. If you have adhesion issues throw some glue stick or hair spray down. Your first prints should be strain relief's for the bed and for the extruder. Next should be support arms to fix the one major issue with this printer which is the cantilever bed. Unless you're printing anymore than PLA the hot end is adequate but isn't an all metal hot end so if you do plan to move to other filaments you'll have to upgrade that to an all metal. Find a known working profile for your slicer and run some temp towers to find the best settings for your filament and then move to calibration cubes to see what you may have to adjust. The ender 5 frame design makes it a solid printer with a few minor flaws that is basically set and forget once you've addressed its few shortcomings.
I picked up the refurbished ender 3 v2 on the last deal and it arrived today. Also got a bunch of upgrades I'm not expecting amazing prints from it, I like to tinker. I think it will be a good entry into 3d printing
You already got yours? I haven't even received shipping information. No response from their customer support either.
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I'm not saying don't buy one but don't buy one with the expectation that you're just going to pull it out of the box and its going to print flawlessly because that's almost never the case. These printers require constant maintenance and fine tuning and if neglected one failure will domino into another and sorting it out at that point is a nightmare because simply changing anything can throw the printer out of tolerance and unless you know specifically what you'll beat your head against a wall trying to figure it out.
Communities like reddit can help but you can ask a question and get 100 different answers that to some degree are technically correct because some failures cause the same symptoms so relying on those answers can lead you to modify something that really wasn't the issue and only make the problem worse.
If you want a solid printer buy the ender 5 and replace the extruder with a bondtech or a BMG Clone. Its a direct replacement and all you have to do is set your esteps to 415 and make sure the bed is level. If you have adhesion issues throw some glue stick or hair spray down. Your first prints should be strain relief's for the bed and for the extruder. Next should be support arms to fix the one major issue with this printer which is the cantilever bed. Unless you're printing anymore than PLA the hot end is adequate but isn't an all metal hot end so if you do plan to move to other filaments you'll have to upgrade that to an all metal. Find a known working profile for your slicer and run some temp towers to find the best settings for your filament and then move to calibration cubes to see what you may have to adjust. The ender 5 frame design makes it a solid printer with a few minor flaws that is basically set and forget once you've addressed its few shortcomings.
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Main differences between all the different versions here?
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It's not common for them to be great printers out of the box. You are getting what you pay for.
most 3d printer hobbyists like to tinker with their printers and fine tune them and experiment. I find that half my prints are printer upgrades lol. (cable holders, fan mounts, extended legs) etc.
and for the Ender 5 a dual z mod, or printed bed supports.
None of that is required to get started though, its a great printer out of the box.
Our community has rated this post as helpful. If you agree, why not thank Nec89
I'm not saying don't buy one but don't buy one with the expectation that you're just going to pull it out of the box and its going to print flawlessly because that's almost never the case. These printers require constant maintenance and fine tuning and if neglected one failure will domino into another and sorting it out at that point is a nightmare because simply changing anything can throw the printer out of tolerance and unless you know specifically what you'll beat your head against a wall trying to figure it out.
Communities like reddit can help but you can ask a question and get 100 different answers that to some degree are technically correct because some failures cause the same symptoms so relying on those answers can lead you to modify something that really wasn't the issue and only make the problem worse.
If you want a solid printer buy the ender 5 and replace the extruder with a bondtech or a BMG Clone. Its a direct replacement and all you have to do is set your esteps to 415 and make sure the bed is level. If you have adhesion issues throw some glue stick or hair spray down. Your first prints should be strain relief's for the bed and for the extruder. Next should be support arms to fix the one major issue with this printer which is the cantilever bed. Unless you're printing anymore than PLA the hot end is adequate but isn't an all metal hot end so if you do plan to move to other filaments you'll have to upgrade that to an all metal. Find a known working profile for your slicer and run some temp towers to find the best settings for your filament and then move to calibration cubes to see what you may have to adjust. The ender 5 frame design makes it a solid printer with a few minor flaws that is basically set and forget once you've addressed its few shortcomings.
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