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Select Utility Companies: Google Nest Smart Programmable WiFi Thermostat

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Various Utility Companies are Offering Current Account Holders in Select States: Google Nest Thermostats and Nest Learning Thermostats on sale below. Shipping costs may vary depending on location and provider.

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    • Refer to the individual utility company offer pages for complete details and the forum thread for additional deals in certain states and deal discussion.
    • Must be a current account holder with the listed utility provider in order to qualify for this sale pricing. Availability may vary by location.

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Various Utility Companies are Offering Current Account Holders in Select States: Google Nest Thermostats and Nest Learning Thermostats on sale below. Shipping costs may vary depending on location and provider.

Thanks Slickdeals Staff Member DLS4U for sharing this deal

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Editor's Notes

Written by slickdewmaster | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • Offers subject to change.
    • Refer to the individual utility company offer pages for complete details and the forum thread for additional deals in certain states and deal discussion.
    • Must be a current account holder with the listed utility provider in order to qualify for this sale pricing. Availability may vary by location.

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preferredmike
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It is so awesome to give control of your thermostat over to the utility companies.

Read the fine print. All legal doublespeak.

This is from one in my state's utilities linked in the post.

"By participating in the Company's energy efficiency and peak demand reduction programs, customers agree their electric utility will maintain ownership of all Capacity Rights from electric savings measures, which refers to the demand reduction associated with any energy efficiency or peak demand reduction measures for which incentives were provided by the Company"


During periods of high demand or as they say there "peak demand reduction programs" they will raise or lower your thermostat and you have no control over it. Enjoy.

No thanks.
dorkino
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Technically no, but there have been a lot of reports of people having issues without one. If you don't hook a c wire then it attempts to suck power off of one of the other wires. This has led to rapid cycling (think on/off every few second) of systems that can lead to damage, never mind how annoying and useless that would be.

If you don't have a c wire and don't want to run new wire, they sell an official Nest $25 wiring kit that you install in your air handler. I recommend getting one if you don't have a c wire.

Also, check the wires that are coming out of your wall behind the thermostat. I found in my old home the c wire was there but never connected to the board in the air handler. It all just depends on if you have an extra unused wire already run. In my new home I have only 4 wires and they are all in use, so when I replace the dumb thermostat with a Nest I will need the c wire kit.

https://store.google.com/product/...r?hl=en-US

You can buy this at Best Buy or Amazon or a number of places. Also be sure you have a c wire connection on your air handler board. You probably do but look for a low voltage screw terminal Marked "C"
ResidentPony
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That's actually not the section that talks about the power company controlling your thermostat. The snippet you quoted actually says "if you're allowing us control over your thermostat, we don't have to pay you back for the energy saved."

There's a concept where a homeowner with their own energy source, eg solar, can get credited for either feeding electricity back into the grid, or at least for helping the power company meet their required capacity by reducing that home's draw from the grid.

The legalese you quoted says that any power saved because of a thermostat-related demand reduction program will not result in a credit to the homeowner.

That's it. The part that actually signs the user up for such a program, if that part exists, is not here.

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Nov 18, 2021 01:28 PM
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BrianT1548Nov 18, 2021 01:28 PM
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Quote from dorkino :
Might be other things too but the lack of dial control upsets my wife enough to make me pay for the more expensive one even though I despise it's attempts at guessing how comfortable I want to be.

How accurate are these things? I am afraid of "smart" devices like this because of a terrible experience with Rachio thinking it could be "smart" enough to water my lawn (which it wasn't when I wasn't actively watching it on the app) resulting in a dead lawn.

With natural gas prices set to increase tremendously this winter, this would make me nervous that I would leave the house and Google would think it was a good idea to crank things up resulting in high bills.

I guess I have PTSD from "smart" devices after my horrible experience with Rachio.
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Nov 18, 2021 02:14 PM
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TylerL7392Nov 18, 2021 02:14 PM
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Quote from preferredmike :
It is so awesome to give control of your thermostat over to the utility companies.

Read the fine print. All legal doublespeak.

This is from one in my state's utilities linked in the post.

"By participating in the Company's energy efficiency and peak demand reduction programs, customers agree their electric utility will maintain ownership of all Capacity Rights from electric savings measures, which refers to the demand reduction associated with any energy efficiency or peak demand reduction measures for which incentives were provided by the Company"


During periods of high demand or as they say there "peak demand reduction programs" they will raise or lower your thermostat and you have no control over it. Enjoy.

No thanks.
They only do it a few times a year, and you can adjust it right back. Minimal effort for a free thermostat. But to each their own
Nov 18, 2021 02:26 PM
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CoralCabbage559Nov 18, 2021 02:26 PM
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White is always OOS stock for some reason. At least for LADWP.
Nov 18, 2021 02:43 PM
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cr08Nov 18, 2021 02:43 PM
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Quote from dorkino :
Technically no, but there have been a lot of reports of people having issues without one. If you don't hook a c wire then it attempts to suck power off of one of the other wires. This has led to rapid cycling (think on/off every few second) of systems that can lead to damage, never mind how annoying and useless that would be.

If you don't have a c wire and don't want to run new wire, they sell an official Nest $25 wiring kit that you install in your air handler. I recommend getting one if you don't have a c wire.

Also, check the wires that are coming out of your wall behind the thermostat. I found in my old home the c wire was there but never connected to the board in the air handler. It all just depends on if you have an extra unused wire already run. In my new home I have only 4 wires and they are all in use, so when I replace the dumb thermostat with a Nest I will need the c wire kit.

https://store.google.com/product/...r?hl=en-US [google.com]

You can buy this at Best Buy or Amazon or a number of places. Also be sure you have a c wire connection on your air handler board. You probably do but look for a low voltage screw terminal Marked "C"
Having followed the Nest subreddit for a while, seems more people run into power issues not having a C wire let alone the potential of wreaking havoc on your HVAC system with the power stealing feature.

As such, highly recommended at least from me to go with the C wire or the linked c wire kit they offer.
Nov 18, 2021 03:03 PM
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nukepenguinNov 18, 2021 03:03 PM
119 Posts
My utility company offer ecobee with voice control for free instead. How's ecobee compared to Nest one?
Last edited by nukepenguin November 18, 2021 at 08:05 AM.
Nov 18, 2021 03:11 PM
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taharinNov 18, 2021 03:11 PM
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Quote from hibasoul :
Arizona, SRP. Called and asked for details. Told if I participate in this program and receive/connect the google nest , then SRP will have a full control over my AC temperature. So during hell (summer in AZ) they might put your AC to 79-80° at 2 pm and you gotta deal with it. And if you decided to lower that sweet thing to 77-75 then will get it back up to their preference temp. The customer service rep said as much as you change it . We will put it back to where we want the temp to be…. Way to give away your least right to have a cool house during summer…
What's next? They will send you a new shower head so they would control how many times you shower ? Smh 🤦🏻 ♀️
For SRP, the terms say you have to be enrolled in their BYOT program for 6 months else they'll charge you for the discount they provided. The winters are so mild I generally keep the AC/Heat system off until late-April and by the time I'm ready for the AC to turn on, I can unenroll from the program.
Nov 18, 2021 03:16 PM
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EagerSparrow960Nov 18, 2021 03:16 PM
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Excellent. Got 4, and will list on ebay as soon as they arrive. Quick and easy way to make a couple bennies.
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eevliNov 18, 2021 03:24 PM
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Quote from preferredmike :
It is so awesome to give control of your thermostat over to the utility companies.

Read the fine print. All legal doublespeak.

This is from one in my state's utilities linked in the post.

"By participating in the Company's energy efficiency and peak demand reduction programs, customers agree their electric utility will maintain ownership of all Capacity Rights from electric savings measures, which refers to the demand reduction associated with any energy efficiency or peak demand reduction measures for which incentives were provided by the Company"


During periods of high demand or as they say there "peak demand reduction programs" they will raise or lower your thermostat and you have no control over it. Enjoy.

No thanks.
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Nov 18, 2021 03:41 PM
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baracludeNov 18, 2021 03:41 PM
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Google will soon stop supporting Nest. Don't invest too much in Nest.
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Nov 18, 2021 03:43 PM
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Evan1904Nov 18, 2021 03:43 PM
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Grabbed a few off the Mass Save marketplace, free shipping. No Demand Response enrollment requirement means they cannot change my thermostat! Score.
Nov 18, 2021 03:55 PM
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cwelNov 18, 2021 03:55 PM
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Follow the link for New York PSE&G, it will lead to NJ only at check out for instant rebate.

Does anyone has a valid link for PSEG Long Island (www.psegliny.com)?

Nov 18, 2021 03:57 PM
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styagiNov 18, 2021 03:57 PM
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my nest learning thermostat kept going into eco mode afer 10 min. I had all the eco and energy saving/home away features turned off and it kept doing it. switched to an emerson, now all is fine.
Nov 18, 2021 03:59 PM
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vvanapNov 18, 2021 03:59 PM
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For pge when you login and check for "get rebates and see efficiency ratings" I see I get rebates of 120$ what is the difference between this rebate and the one on utility website
Nov 18, 2021 04:02 PM
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StandbuyNov 18, 2021 04:02 PM
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No ❤️ for Florida. 😔

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Nov 18, 2021 04:04 PM
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bajanboy5809Nov 18, 2021 04:04 PM
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Periodically see these deals from my utility company but it always comes with the caveat of joining some nonsense Peak Saving thing and I just pass on it every time.

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