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expiredeagleknightsky posted Nov 24, 2021 04:46 AM
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Hubitat Elevation C-7 Home Automation Hub (US Model)

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Hubitat has Hubitat Elevation C-7 Home Automation Hub (US Model) on sale for $99.95. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member eagleknightsky for finding this deal

Note, this hub is valid for shipment within 48 states mainland US only

Includes
  • Hubitat Elevation Home Automation Hub (C-7)
  • Internal Radios for both Zigbee and US frequency Z-Wave (908.4MHz)
  • 120V Power Supply (US)
  • Ethernet Cable

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Written by Discombobulated | Staff
  • Purchase this device today and save $50 Off (33.34% Savings) from the original price of $149.95. We have seen this unit go for roughly ~$115 when on sale, so this is the lowest available price
  • Be sure to select the US model version only
  • Offer valid through November 30, 2021 or while promotion/supplies last
Additional Note
  • Please refer to the forum thread for additional details - Discombobulated

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Hubitat has Hubitat Elevation C-7 Home Automation Hub (US Model) on sale for $99.95. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member eagleknightsky for finding this deal

Note, this hub is valid for shipment within 48 states mainland US only

Includes
  • Hubitat Elevation Home Automation Hub (C-7)
  • Internal Radios for both Zigbee and US frequency Z-Wave (908.4MHz)
  • 120V Power Supply (US)
  • Ethernet Cable

Editor's Notes

Written by Discombobulated | Staff
  • Purchase this device today and save $50 Off (33.34% Savings) from the original price of $149.95. We have seen this unit go for roughly ~$115 when on sale, so this is the lowest available price
  • Be sure to select the US model version only
  • Offer valid through November 30, 2021 or while promotion/supplies last
Additional Note
  • Please refer to the forum thread for additional details - Discombobulated

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tripredagus
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You're right, there's an optional monthly fee. However connecting it to Google Home or Amazon Alexa bypasses the need for this. I use my Google Home app to easily control my devices remotely. Alternatively yes, VPN will work as well.



I've had both, SmartThings UI is certainly prettier looking and rules and automation are a little bit simpler to setup. The best thing in my opinion is that Hubitat works perfectly well using a web browser. SmartThings doesn't work on a computer. Hubitat commands are faster and will still work even if I have an internet outage.
brossow
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Dammit. Just bought a used one for $95. Didn't think they'd go this low even with BF. 🤦

FWIW, I switched from SmartThings to Hubitat last year around this time and have been REALLY happy with the decision. Works great with a wide range of Z-Wave and Zigbee equipment and integrates seamlessly with our Google and Alexa devices. Picked up the second one I mentioned to extend automation to my shop. It'll be great to monitor and control things out there without having to actually go out there. Highly recommended!
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I'd been using SmartThings since late 2015 and switched over to Hubitat back in February, because I finally had had enough of their cloud outages and laggy response times. The UI for SmartThings is more polished, but the performance and stability of Hubitat is rock solid. I'll take the latter over the former any day of the week, especially when it comes to home automation. Besides, we have Alexa integration with Hubitat, so we hardly use the mobile app (i.e., dashboards).

And if our Internet connection goes down, it's nice that we can still control our home automation locally via the mobile app. The iOS and Android Hubitat mobile apps really just encapsulate the web UI for your Hubitat hub (such as the custom dashboards you create to control and monitor your devices), although they recently added a "Devices" tab, which allows you to view/control the state of all your devices. The mobile app also adds geolocation functionality, although I've never been able to get it to reliably track my location. What has been 100% reliable is the Life360 Connector app (built-in app). My family already uses Life360, so it just made sense to connect this to Hubitat.

I actually bought a second Hubitat hub (on sale) just to segregate my many smart bulbs (mostly Sylvania/Lightify) on their own ZigBee network. Many smart bulbs try to act as ZigBee repeaters, but they usually only repeat bulb commands and drop everything else, so they make lousy repeaters for other ZigBee devices and can create network performance issues. So, it's best to keep them on their own mesh. One notable exception are the Seng-led ZigBee bulbs, which apparently do not serve as ZigBee repeaters, they only pass commands to other Seng-led bulbs, thus it should be fine to have them in a mixed ZigBee mesh. If you do have two Hubitat hubs, be sure to use different channels for their ZigBee and Z-Wave radios, to help avoid interference. I logically connected the "bulb hub" to my "master hub" via the built-in apps called 'Hub Link' and 'Link to Hub', respectively. This allows me to control the smart bulbs from the "master" hub, even though they were added to the "bulb" hub.

I also use the built-in app called Rule Machine to set up my automations. Yes, it's not as straightforward or intuitive as creating automatons in SmartThings, but the learning curve is relatively small. I spent about 30-60 minutes reading and comprehending the official documentation (Hubitat has excellent online documentation) on Rule Machine before writing my own rules. Hubitat gives you more latitude in creating rules than does SmartThings, which has a rather simplistic rule set.

I also like how I can create local backups of my Hubitat hubs' configurations. Although SmartThings saves your settings in their Cloud (in theory), on more than one occasion I've had all of my SmartThings settings lost due to a forced firmware update or Cloud migration (e.g., moving "Classic" accounts to Samsung). Again, with Hubitat, everything is controlled locally.

Having said that, even though Hubitat is locally controlled and commands are processed 100% locally on the hub, they still offer an optional cloud service, if you'd like to access your dashboards while away from the house. The mobile app will seamlessly switch between cloud and local dashboards, depending if you're on your home WiFi or not. You also have the option of not making your dashboards accessible via their cloud, and just using your home VPN instead. Again, the decision is up to you, not some provider (e.g., Samsung).

Overall, I'm very pleased with Hubitat. I don't see myself ever going back to SmartThings. Sure, there's more of a learning curve, but it's well worth it in my opinion to gain local control and added functionality.

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Nov 24, 2021 04:56 AM
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MeshcaNov 24, 2021 04:56 AM
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I think this is lower than last years deal. and the lowest it's been.

Anyone prefer a different local non cloud control?

I've heard this one now has an optional monthly fee for remote access control but is still possible to use a vpn method instead correct?
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Nov 24, 2021 04:57 AM
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Solid deal, best hub out there for local control
Nov 24, 2021 05:03 AM
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bleuikoNov 24, 2021 05:03 AM
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How much is this better than SmartThings? ST generally works for me but cloud does go out once in a while. Any compelling reason to switch and set it all up again?
Nov 24, 2021 05:07 AM
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raub21Nov 24, 2021 05:07 AM
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Is there a way to get Schlage lock z wave older model to work with habitat? I have 2 locks but I am worried about the comp ability issue in habitat. Thank you
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Quote from bleuiko :
How much is this better than SmartThings? ST generally works for me but cloud does go out once in a while. Any compelling reason to switch and set it all up again?
From what I understand: It runs local but requires way more know-how to set up. I don't know if they're easily comparable.
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Quote from bleuiko :
How much is this better than SmartThings? ST generally works for me but cloud does go out once in a while. Any compelling reason to switch and set it all up again?
The wife-acceptance factor definitely goes to ST, but if you don't mind a little tinkering, Hubitat offers better integration with more brands. Hubitat also is compatible with Lutron Caseta devices, ST is not.

Edit: I stand corrected, apologies. Both ST and Hubitat will require the purchase of a separate hub for Lutron devices. Wink (yuck, subscription fees) is the only hub that has built in Lutron radios.
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Dammit. Just bought a used one for $95. Didn't think they'd go this low even with BF. 🤦

FWIW, I switched from SmartThings to Hubitat last year around this time and have been REALLY happy with the decision. Works great with a wide range of Z-Wave and Zigbee equipment and integrates seamlessly with our Google and Alexa devices. Picked up the second one I mentioned to extend automation to my shop. It'll be great to monitor and control things out there without having to actually go out there. Highly recommended!
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tripredagusNov 24, 2021 05:19 AM
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Quote from Meshca :
I think this is lower than last years deal. and the lowest it's been.

Anyone prefer a different local non cloud control?

I've heard this one now has an optional monthly fee for remote access control but is still possible to use a vpn method instead correct?
You're right, there's an optional monthly fee. However connecting it to Google Home or Amazon Alexa bypasses the need for this. I use my Google Home app to easily control my devices remotely. Alternatively yes, VPN will work as well.

Quote from bleuiko :
How much is this better than SmartThings? ST generally works for me but cloud does go out once in a while. Any compelling reason to switch and set it all up again?
I've had both, SmartThings UI is certainly prettier looking and rules and automation are a little bit simpler to setup. The best thing in my opinion is that Hubitat works perfectly well using a web browser. SmartThings doesn't work on a computer. Hubitat commands are faster and will still work even if I have an internet outage.
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Quote from jsterjay :
The wife-acceptance factor definitely goes to ST, but if you don't mind a little tinkering, Hubitat offers better integration with more brands. Hubitat also is compatible with Lutron Caseta devices, ST is not.
My Caseta switches work with ST.
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Quote from ep8field :
My Caseta switches work with ST.
Don't you have to buy a separate Lurton Smart Bridge for it to work with ST?
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Good_LibationsNov 24, 2021 05:36 AM
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Quote from jsterjay :
Don't you have to buy a separate Lurton Smart Bridge for it to work with ST?
Ah that might be it, I bought the kit first that came with the hub, didn't realize any other hubs would connect to the switches without Lutron's in the mix.

At this point I can't wait to see what Matter will bring to the table, I have automations spread across Google Home, Alexa, SmartThings, and Home Assistant to get everything to play nicely.
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Quote from tripredagus :
You're right, there's an optional monthly fee. However connecting it to Google Home or Amazon Alexa bypasses the need for this. I use my Google Home app to easily control my devices remotely. Alternatively yes, VPN will work as well.



I've had both, SmartThings UI is certainly prettier looking and rules and automation are a little bit simpler to setup. The best thing in my opinion is that Hubitat works perfectly well using a web browser. SmartThings doesn't work on a computer. Hubitat commands are faster and will still work even if I have an internet outage.
Wow thank you for this!
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XelnokNov 24, 2021 05:41 AM
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For someone who just got into some basic smart home stuff (alexa echos, getting hue bulbs/bridge/motion detectors), what is this used for?
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petrichorridorNov 24, 2021 05:50 AM
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Quote from Meshca :
I think this is lower than last years deal. and the lowest it's been.

Anyone prefer a different local non cloud control?

I've heard this one now has an optional monthly fee for remote access control but is still possible to use a vpn method instead correct?
Can't believe no one has mentioned home assistant. Very powerful open source option, frequent updates. They sell their own hardware too, I think called the Blue, but many people run it on raspberry pi (like I do) or as a docker container on a beefier machine. I don't know much about hubitat, maybe home assistant is more powerful but slightly more of a learning curve to get started with?
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petrichorridorNov 24, 2021 05:50 AM
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Quote from jsterjay :
Solid deal, best hub out there for local control
in what ways is it better than home assistant?
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