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History is repeating itself. Ppl didn't buy the steam machine so retailers just had to get rid of it. I see the same fate on these. $279 is a steal. I might predict it going lower with lack of demand but at $279 is a big cut. This time there are controllers that are expensive.

The mistake in my opinion is that atari did not have a clear vision as far as gaming platform, offering too many choices to buy rather than one product, lack of software exclusives. As an afterthought they have purchased exclusive rights to OS they plan on applying to this and are trying to build their exclusives by leasing their IP to third parties. It remains to be seen what is made of it (as a post reaction rather than preemptive plan for their system). Even if they had a vision like intellivision (Amico) they might have had a better outcome. But as an ex- or pre-activision shell of a company.. they got some management issues to work out. They have a good name and history to use but they just can't seem to launch a good strategy to reimagine their company. They really just need to work on their IP. Or go by way of SEGA and focus on software and maybe create a peripheral controller addon to the current mega platforms as it's an overcrowded pool.

In short, enjoy this while u can. They aren't risking their money on this endeavor as they used kickstarter money. They made this product risking on backers or consumer money. Lesson never learned for kickstarter and big corporations should not be allowed to be involved on that platform as it was intended for the small guys.
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I think when this thing was talked about 2+ years ago, it may have been a decent device @ sub $300. But now that Ryzen APUs and the Xbox Series S (also $300) have FAR bested this VCS, it's really not worth much more than $150-$200 tops. If you check benchmarks for this, even the entry level Core i3-10100 blows the CPU part of this away...and the graphics isn't much better in the VCS. There are uses for it, but at this price there are much better alternatives.
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I think when this thing was talked about 2+ years ago, it may have been a decent device @ sub $300. But now that Ryzen APUs and the Xbox Series S (also $300) have FAR bested this VCS, it's really not worth much more than $150-$200 tops. If you check benchmarks for this, even the entry level Core i3-10100 blows the CPU part of this away...and the graphics isn't much better in the VCS. There are uses for it, but at this price there are much better alternatives.
Agreed. The only thing I saw was as a non-gaming application (PC) for those needing windows as a side load to do office or basic stuff.

But u r right. There are cheaper alternatives. This is where atari had no vision and just trying to put a bandaid on a poorly executed vision with no clear direction. Hence it belongs right next to steam machines. Atari fumbled.

The only thing I might disagree on is that $150-$200 is a little off. It might get there if there is literal zero demand and this becomes an eye sore for retailers. But the controllers are $50-$75. I would probably say $200-$250 is a reasonable offer but sub $200 only if retailers want this out. I kinda want to see what this thing is so I purchased it. Honestly I don't have any need for it or really want it for that matter. It might be an ok PC. I do like the design and small form factor as a PC.
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How's the hardware if we just use it as a PC? Is this cheap vs a desktop? Looks like you can load Windows, ChromeOS or Linux on it and you can upgrade SSD/RAM.
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How's the hardware if we just use it as a PC? Is this cheap vs a desktop? Looks like you can load Windows, ChromeOS or Linux on it and you can upgrade SSD/RAM.
It "enough power to play (some) games at 1080p60 and stream 1080p video content". As a very basic functional PC I think its decent. You are mainly buying for its small form factor and consider the 2 controllers as bonus. Otherwise the console of itself probably worth $249 imo.

I would say that this is ok deal for a basic, functional PC with nice small form factor. Not for gaming. I've been following steam machine since 2014.. I can tell you that the small form factor is the high cost. The power behind it most people can build themselves cheaper but small form is a big cost factor that cannot be replicated as a DIY. That's why you would want this. If you want something nice and petite that can run your office work this is nice for that. And very easy on the eyes of you have a clean organized house. For gaming purposes, it would be a pass.

I want to predict that this probably will be sub-$200 a year or two down the road when there is no movement. Wait for it. I will not have regrets buying it at $279 with 5% Chase + some CB from another SD competitor that begins with R.

Edit: I thought this was for Atari VCS 400. This is actually for Atari VCS 800 which makes it a little sweeter with 8gb RAM and is fully upgradeable to 32gb. Despite the negative association I think this is a darn good deal. $400 would be a joke but at this price and possibly lower in future its the item to look for as a PC rig for the mainstream audience. Market penetration will be weak and therefore this item is one of those gems at the current price.
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I think when this thing was talked about 2+ years ago, it may have been a decent device @ sub $300. But now that Ryzen APUs and the Xbox Series S (also $300) have FAR bested this VCS, it's really not worth much more than $150-$200 tops. If you check benchmarks for this, even the entry level Core i3-10100 blows the CPU part of this away...and the graphics isn't much better in the VCS. There are uses for it, but at this price there are much better alternatives.
To be fair, the PS and XB ecosystem is closed and does not allow tinkering. Hardware is sold at a loss but made up with software. For Atari they can't make up with software so they have to sell the hardware without taking a hit. And its advantage is allowing tinkerers to mess with the internals or OS.
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It "enough power to play (some) games at 1080p60 and stream 1080p video content". As a very basic functional PC I think its decent. You are mainly buying for its small form factor and consider the 2 controllers as bonus. Otherwise the console of itself probably worth $249 imo.

I would say that this is ok deal for a basic, functional PC with nice small form factor. Not for gaming. I've been following steam machine since 2014.. I can tell you that the small form factor is the high cost. The power behind it most people can build themselves cheaper but small form is a big cost factor that cannot be replicated as a DIY. That's why you would want this. If you want something nice and petite that can run your office work this is nice for that. And very easy on the eyes of you have a clean organized house. For gaming purposes, it would be a pass.

I want to predict that this probably will be sub-$200 a year or two down the road when there is no movement. Wait for it. I will not have regrets buying it at $279 with 5% Chase + some CB from another SD competitor that begins with R.
Thanks, will take your advice and wait. I really don't need it like most of us on here!
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Thanks, will take your advice and wait. I really don't need it like most of us on here!
Not that I'm changing my stance but I didn't realize this was for Atari VCS 800. It makes it a little sweeter and actually not to shabby BUT with weak market penetration I still predict it will go down further. So I'm just going from ok deal to good deal but I will not say its a slickdeal. A slickdeal would be at $200-$250 (maybe lower) which probably will happen in the next year or two. But being the higher model which I didn't realize its one for which I will not regret buying it this time at $279. I'm reserving another purchase for next time when it goes down.

As a PC, where it is killed as a PC is that one could argue raspberry pi has dominated that avenue. Thus Atari VCS is left with such a poor value proposition it will be very likely you will find it on clearance as another failed attempt at capturing consumers for which the audience is still unknown.
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To be fair, the PS and XB ecosystem is closed and does not allow tinkering. Hardware is sold at a loss but made up with software. For Atari they can't make up with software so they have to sell the hardware without taking a hit. And its advantage is allowing tinkerers to mess with the internals or OS.
All good points, if we're being fair 👍 Doesn't mean much to the average consumer though.

I was actually considering grabbing one, for the tinkering you speak of. But it really is just an underpowered PC at this point.
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All good points, if we're being fair 👍 Doesn't mean much to the average consumer though.

I was actually considering grabbing one, for the tinkering you speak of. But it really is just an underpowered PC at this point.
100% agree with you (I just really feel bad for Atari and wanted to at least give a fair perspective). I bought one knowing that it probably will be sub-$200 next year or so. I owned atari growing up and I really want them to enter the competition but they have consistently failed at many attempts since Jaguar (in the 1990s). Only because I bought steam machines and know how that went.. I see a parallel with this in repeating history. The value is there but the problem is they don't know who their audience is. Gamers? Casual PC? I am still confused.

But I will say that this is a very good deal for a basic computer (with controllers considered as bonuses, each of them are worth $40-$60). If anyone is looking for a bare essential computer this is a nice deal but that audience will never know that bc it's marketed as a gaming console so will miss that target. As a gaming platform its a HARD, 100% pass. It just sucks. Those gamers already got what they want and will have zero value or need for this. I'm probably going to enjoy this. I bought it as part of my disposable income but I will consider it an extraneous expenditure.
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You know what would help this thing? Not launching all your 1st party titles on other platforms first.
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I got one from Micro Center for $249 on BF. I bought 16GB of RAM and a 1TB M.2 SSD (not NVME) so am all in around $400. I put Windows on the SSD and fired it up as an emulation machine with a ton of old ROMs from GameCube and older - works great for that with the controllers. Also decent for streaming Plex from my desktop and Netflix etc.
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Just another Ouya with a bought and paid for name. Unless you like collecting failed video consoles, just do a hard pass. If you want old MAME and console games, build a system.
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Used the Dollar General 15% off GameStop gift card today got this bundle for 252.27 tax included.
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