Gruv: 4K UHD Blu-ray Movies: Scarface Gold Edition, Carlito's Way, Jaws & More

Essfive

Dec 1, 2021 10:21 PM

274 Comments

Joined Mar 2017

EssfiveDec 1, 2021 10:21 PM

274 Comments

Quote from TXGoat

:

I'm on the fence about older movies that are converted. How much better can they be if the source material is old in the first place? I know that film is generally a better medium, but are these visibly better and not overly saturated like when they go and colorize black and white films?

(casual dabbler here, on a 75" TCL 4k + Visio Elevate soundbar)

From my (limited) viewing, the highly rated 4k discs of older films kinda get "closer to the cinema experience", quality-wise. Fidelity you couldn't get at home, both visual and audible (a solid Atmos remaster is a big seller for me, for example).

I tend to cross-check w/ reviews on blu-ray.com, which'll typically warn you away from 4k releases that are equal/inferior to the previous blu-ray ones (for example, "The Thing" was a highly rated release, which prompted me to pull the trigger). Hope this helps!

edit: Also, look for extras! That often justifies the additional cost, particularly when it's a deal on here ($10 for a nice copy of Jaws with a bunch of extras is a great deal, even with only slight improvements)

Ace2377

Dec 1, 2021 10:52 PM

820 Comments

Joined Dec 2009

Ace2377Dec 1, 2021 10:52 PM

820 Comments

Quote from u2fan01

:

Does Gruv email tracking numbers when your order ships?

Yes. They ship via media mail, so it takes a little bit to receive, but they do send a tracking number.

1

BobbyDelatroit

Dec 2, 2021 12:06 AM

697 Comments

Joined Apr 2013

BobbyDelatroitDec 2, 2021 12:06 AM

697 Comments

Damn Carlitos Way just was released. In for that and one other

1

Shake-N-Bake

Dec 2, 2021 12:18 AM

6.1K Comments

Joined May 2020

Shake-N-BakeDec 2, 2021 12:18 AM

6.1K Comments

Quote from TXGoat

:

I'm on the fence about older movies that are converted. How much better can they be if the source material is old in the first place? I know that film is generally a better medium, but are these visibly better and not overly saturated like when they go and colorize black and white films?

I've seen a number of people bring up the concern of old movies being upgraded, but age has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of an upgrade. Technology is pretty awesome. There are no limits. The Thing looks absolutely amazing in 4K. The HDR makes it look like a new movie. Scarface looks great, too. Even a movie as old as The Ten Commandments looks fantastic in 4K. Some of the older movies are like watching a new movie, with the upgrade.

Then you have some brand new movies that look like trash, compared to the ones I just mentioned. Age doesn't matter one bit. It all comes down to what work they do on each movie. All 4K upgrades are not created equal. Your best bet, if you're not sure, is check sites like bluray.com. They review tons of 4K movies and tell you exactly what differences there are.

6

TXGoat

Dec 2, 2021 12:23 AM

5.3K Comments

Joined Jul 2010

TXGoatDec 2, 2021 12:23 AM

5.3K Comments

Quote from Shake-N-Bake

:

I've seen a number of people bring up the concern of old movies being upgraded, but age has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of an upgrade. Technology is pretty awesome. There are no limits. The Thing looks absolutely amazing in 4K. The HDR makes it look like a new movie. Scarface looks great, too. Even a movie as old as The Ten Commandments looks fantastic in 4K. Some of the older movies are like watching a new movie, with the upgrade.

Then you have some brand new movies that look like trash, compared to the ones I just mentioned. Age doesn't matter one bit. It all comes down to what work they do on each movie. All 4K upgrades are not created equal. Your best bet, if you're not sure, is check sites like bluray.com. They review tons of 4K movies and tell you exactly what differences there are.

The only reason I asked is because the only reference I have is with old black and white movies, and how they "colorized" them and the final product looks just horridly loud. I was curious as to how well these were upconverted.

1

u2fan01

Dec 2, 2021 12:41 AM

2.9K Comments

Joined Nov 2008

u2fan01Dec 2, 2021 12:41 AM

2.9K Comments

Quote from Ace2377

:

Yes. They ship via media mail, so it takes a little bit to receive, but they do send a tracking number.

When I check my order on the site, it says "Despatched". I haven't received a tracking number though, it's been 4 days since the status changed.

1

Merkels_merkin

Dec 2, 2021 12:48 AM

4.3K Comments

Joined Apr 2015

Merkels_merkinDec 2, 2021 12:48 AM

4.3K Comments

Damn. I placed 2 orders for almost $200 last night and there was no working code that I knew of. If I had waited half a day I would've saved $40. Very unslick

Jerseyboy76

Dec 2, 2021 1:32 AM

349 Comments

Joined Aug 2013

Jerseyboy76Dec 2, 2021 1:32 AM

349 Comments

Quote from Merkels_merkin

:

Damn. I placed 2 orders for almost $200 last night and there was no working code that I knew of. If I had waited half a day I would've saved $40. Very unslick

Always wait for the Slickdeals codes lol

Jerseyboy76

Dec 2, 2021 1:33 AM

349 Comments

Joined Aug 2013

Jerseyboy76Dec 2, 2021 1:33 AM

349 Comments

Quote from u2fan01

:

When I check my order on the site, it says "Despatched". I haven't received a tracking number though, it's been 4 days since the status changed.

I got like 10 movies in the past 2 weeks there. Took about 7 days from when my order was shipped. And I live in nj as universal is in California

1

Oplix

Dec 2, 2021 2:19 AM

251 Comments

Joined May 2007

OplixDec 2, 2021 2:19 AM

251 Comments

Quote from TXGoat

:

I'm on the fence about older movies that are converted. How much better can they be if the source material is old in the first place? I know that film is generally a better medium, but are these visibly better and not overly saturated like when they go and colorize black and white films?

My problem with old movies is more on the audio side than visual. Some old movies look great, but sound wise, from dialog to action sequences just can't be improved on, or too much work that studios don't want to spend the money.

TXGoat

Dec 2, 2021 3:12 AM

5.3K Comments

Joined Jul 2010

TXGoatDec 2, 2021 3:12 AM

5.3K Comments

Quote from Oplix

:

My problem with old movies is more on the audio side than visual. Some old movies look great, but sound wise, from dialog to action sequences just can't be improved on, or too much work that studios don't want to spend the money.

The flip side of that would be some of the old cartoons that I purchased where they injected some "stereo" sounds and it sounds out of place. I think that's what happened in the Transformers cartoons and maybe Robotech cartoons that I have. They plugged in some "special effects" but left the remaining audio intact, which sounds really mismatched.

Shake-N-Bake

Dec 2, 2021 4:12 AM

6.1K Comments

Joined May 2020

Shake-N-BakeDec 2, 2021 4:12 AM

6.1K Comments

Quote from TXGoat

:

The only reason I asked is because the only reference I have is with old black and white movies, and how they "colorized" them and the final product looks just horridly loud. I was curious as to how well these were upconverted.

I hear you on the colorization. Personally, I think the biggest issue with that is just that we're not used to seeing those things in color, so it's jarring. Not that it necessarily doesn't look good. Although sometimes they do over-saturate the colors.

As far as the upgraded resolution of those old movies, regardless of if they're black & white or color, it's gonna look more crisp and clear than ever before, as long as whomever remastered it did a good job.

Some of the upgrades on the older movies aren't very impressive, but it's not because of the age. It's down to the company that remastered it. The Wizard of Oz in 4K, for example, looks great, and that's over 80 years old. I've had much more recent movies that got upgrades and still looked grainy, though.

1

stepping_razor

Dec 2, 2021 7:31 AM

111 Comments

Joined Jul 2019

stepping_razorDec 2, 2021 7:31 AM

111 Comments

'My name is Benny Blanco from the Bronx.'

Time to get Carlito.
And The Thing.
Price may eventually go down a buck or two, but why wait?

(And don't even tempt me on Animal House or Blues Bros. quotes.)

Oplix

Dec 2, 2021 9:37 AM

251 Comments

Joined May 2007

OplixDec 2, 2021 9:37 AM

251 Comments

Quote from TXGoat

:

The flip side of that would be some of the old cartoons that I purchased where they injected some "stereo" sounds and it sounds out of place. I think that's what happened in the Transformers cartoons and maybe Robotech cartoons that I have. They plugged in some "special effects" but left the remaining audio intact, which sounds really mismatched.

I think I know what you're referring to in regards to Robotech and that annoys me as well. I like the intro of the original TV release and it's disappointing hearing the generic mix with other sound effects which ruins the original master peace. I am fine with the new art look but definitely disappointed with the audio.
I forgot which region on the blu-ray (released in 2012-14? ) where they did a fantastic remaster of the original, nothing was added nor removed. Images were clean with very minimal grain/noise effects. Someone uploaded episodes 1-6 on Youtube. I think many fans will be happy if they remastered that onto 4K, but no, instead we got a lazy, flashy blu-ray attempt.
I don't know if you are aware but there are AI software out there that people are experimenting with upscaling HD videos/movie clips to 4k and some look outstanding.You look them up and watch on YouTube. They are not perfect today but in 3+ years, I think the software will be smart enough along with advance computers to handle the workload to upscale an entire HD movie to 4k in less than...24hrs.

Itchiee

Dec 2, 2021 1:55 PM

63 Comments

Joined Nov 2017

ItchieeDec 2, 2021 1:55 PM

63 Comments

In for a double dose of Al Pacino.... Thx!

Gruv: 4K UHD Blu-ray Movies: Scarface Gold Edition, Carlito's Way, Jaws & More

2 for $20.80

$60

Editor's Notes

Original Post

Editor's Notes

Original Post

Community Voting

Top Comments

Join The Conversation

45 Comments

Join The Conversation

Related Searches

Popular Deals

Trending Deals