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Samsung HW-Q600A 3.1.2ch 360W Soundbar w/Dolby Atmos/DTS:X (2021)

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Woot! has Samsung HW-Q600A 3.1.2ch 360W Soundbar w/Dolby Atmos/DTS:X (2021) for $299.99. Shipping is free w/ Amazon Prime or is otherwise a flat $6 per order.

Thanks to Community Member Champagne13 for finding this deal.

Note: Limit 3 per customer. If you're a Prime member and you don't see free shipping on the order page, look for a "Use this address" button and tap/click that. The order page will finish loading and shipping will update.

Key Features:
  • DOLBY ATMOS / DTS:X - Theater-quality sound that fires from the front, side and above for true audio immersion.
  • TRUE 3.1.2CH SOUND - The complete audio entertainment experience with 3 channels, 1 subwoofer and 2 up-firing channels.
  • Q-SYMPHONY - Perfectly synchronized, fully immersive QLED TV and soundbar audio.
  • ADAPTIVE SOUND - Optimizes voice clarity and sound to video content.
  • SAMSUNG ACOUSTIC BEAM - Panoramic audio that dynamically moves with the action.
  • 1 Year Samsung Manufacturer Limited Warranty (more info here)

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About this product:
  • 4.4 out of 5 stars rating at Amazon based on over 100+ customer reviews
About this store:
  • Details of Woot's return policy can be found here.

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Woot! has Samsung HW-Q600A 3.1.2ch 360W Soundbar w/Dolby Atmos/DTS:X (2021) for $299.99. Shipping is free w/ Amazon Prime or is otherwise a flat $6 per order.

Thanks to Community Member Champagne13 for finding this deal.

Note: Limit 3 per customer. If you're a Prime member and you don't see free shipping on the order page, look for a "Use this address" button and tap/click that. The order page will finish loading and shipping will update.

Key Features:
  • DOLBY ATMOS / DTS:X - Theater-quality sound that fires from the front, side and above for true audio immersion.
  • TRUE 3.1.2CH SOUND - The complete audio entertainment experience with 3 channels, 1 subwoofer and 2 up-firing channels.
  • Q-SYMPHONY - Perfectly synchronized, fully immersive QLED TV and soundbar audio.
  • ADAPTIVE SOUND - Optimizes voice clarity and sound to video content.
  • SAMSUNG ACOUSTIC BEAM - Panoramic audio that dynamically moves with the action.
  • 1 Year Samsung Manufacturer Limited Warranty (more info here)

Editor's Notes

Written by CChoiVA
About this product:
  • 4.4 out of 5 stars rating at Amazon based on over 100+ customer reviews
About this store:
  • Details of Woot's return policy can be found here.

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Written by Champagne13

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cyciumx
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Got it. Yes, ARC and eARC operate the same for the most part. At least from a consumer perspective. I'm going to get technical if you just want to know a bit more.

Standard 7.1 uncompressed Dolby TrueHD is already possible on HDMI 2.0 (possible since HDMI 1.4 actually). That's how people watch a Bluray to their surround receiver before passing the video to the TV without ARC. So why do people need eARC for uncompressed surround?....

...eARC operates using an additional pin of the pin array that was physically added in HDMI 1.4 spec... This pin though was originally meant for Ethernet (why you see some HDMI cables sold as, High Speed HDMI + Ethernet). It was never used officially in that capacity though, so with the revision HDMI 2.0b, they opted to make that Ethernet pin as a data channel for additional audio object and meta data. Basically, HDMI 1.4 through today's HDMI 2.1 standard have the same audio capability to transmit the same amount of data and the same kind of data, but without that 1 pin being told how to work the devices can't properly configure what you're trying to do.

This means the data needed for the best audio Bluray can provide already exists since 2009! The problem is no one really cares to implement eARC in HDMI 2.0 equipment. Largely because it would be messy trying to educate consumers and most importantly billing eARC as an HDMI 2.1 technology helps sell newer tech. You will find non-HDMI 2.1 devices with eARC though. Some splitters/matrixes like the Vertex2 from HDFury and Some TVs that can't do 4k/120hz, but still have eARC enabled HDMI ports. It's really up to the manufacturers to support and most do not.

So... confused how HDMI 2.0(non b) can transmit Dolby TrueHD uncompressed, but can't with ARC, well....

TL : DR: ...HDMI standards were set and agreed upon as distinct stages with distinct functionality. When HDMI 1.4 was finalized it didn't have that last pin designated for equipment to process uncompressed ATMOS using ARC. They stamped the approval on the HDMI 1.4 standard without uncompressed ARC ability because they had reserved that one pin for Ethernet. Once the market shifted they swapped that unused Ethernet pin to allow uncompressed audio over ARC, but the ARC standard was already set in stone so they had to make a new standard, eARC. And with that, they had to make a new HDMI revision and made is HDMI 2.0b. Going farward when they devised HDMI 2.1, they made eARC mandatory.

So..... one question you may have is if its just roughly a standard, couldn't they have just made firmware updates to support eARC on older HDMI 1.4 and 2.0 devices? For the most part... anything after HDMI 1.4 can handle Uncompressed Dolby TrueHD and ATMOS (when they were introduced as well as the Ethernet pin) so yeah, they could have made firmware updates technically, but that doesn't mean the totality of the internal components for whatever device can be updated. You will find some companies did make firmware updates to make their HDMI 1.4 devices into HDMI 2.0b eARC enabled, but most don't - much easier to try and sell something new, right?

So there it is.... you only "need" eARC if you want to watch uncompressed DolbyHD audio from a single cable from your TV to your soundbar/receiver AND have an uncompressed DolbyHD source from a Bluray or video file equivalent. No streaming platform exists right now that transmits Dolby TrueHD so regular arse compressed Dolby Digital+ is good enough and thus regular arse ARC is good enough too.

Thank you for coming to my TedX talk..... lol
cyciumx
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That's a poor equivalent since MANY people using soundbars are the same people only using a single streaming device and/or apps built into their Smart TV.

As such, streaming platforms like Netflix that support DD+ ATMOS meta data is the only way people are getting ATMOS. Believe it or not, Blurays are a dying medium and even less people are torrenting them.

Without getting overly technical, eARC is possible on not just HDMI 2.1, but HDMI 2.0b, but that's all moot because streaming networks like Netflix will never stream PCM greater than 2 channel stereo. It will always be compressed DD(+) if using any form of surround sound.

Because of all that - Anyone watching ATMOS content not sourced in some fashion from a Bluray/Torrent of a BR only needs regular ARC.

TL : DR: This is a solid choice if all you do is stream.
Mr_Sadness
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Rtings rated the cheaper HW-Q600A higher than the more expensive HW-Q700A.

https://www.rtings.com/soundbar/t...3585/23516

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Feb 04, 2022 12:44 PM
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batzmaruFeb 04, 2022 12:44 PM
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I got shot down trying to PM at Dell and Amzn. Do you know if there are any websites that PM to Woot?
Feb 04, 2022 02:13 PM
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WARHAWKSSFeb 04, 2022 02:13 PM
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Got shot down @ Bestbuy.
Feb 04, 2022 04:35 PM
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NoffCityFeb 04, 2022 04:35 PM
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Can the Samsung rear satellite speakers be added to this? Does anybody have experience doing so?
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Champagne13Feb 04, 2022 04:47 PM
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Quote from NoffCity :
Can the Samsung rear satellite speakers be added to this? Does anybody have experience doing so?
Don't have personal experience with satellite speakers, but the following is on the HW-Q600A Amazon page:
More sound without the wires...
Turn your soundbar into a complete surround sound system with optional rear Samsung speakers without the mess of wires for a cinematic experience.
*Samsung Wireless Rear Speaker Kit sold separately. (Accessory models: SWA-9100S or SWA-9500S).
**The wireless module requires a power cord to function and speaker cables to connect to rear speakers.
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MasterChief-117Feb 04, 2022 05:10 PM
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Quote from Champagne13 :
Don't have personal experience with satellite speakers, but the following is on the HW-Q600A Amazon page:
More sound without the wires...
Turn your soundbar into a complete surround sound system with optional rear Samsung speakers without the mess of wires for a cinematic experience.
*Samsung Wireless Rear Speaker Kit sold separately. (Accessory models: SWA-9100S or SWA-9500S).
**The wireless module requires a power cord to function and speaker cables to connect to rear speakers.
If these are the same satellite speakers that come with the samsung hw-q65t/za that BestBuy sells, they suck. I returned that set for multiple reasons one of those being that the rear speakers were super quiet even when the volume on them was maxed out.
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tomyo10Feb 04, 2022 05:21 PM
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Quote from batzmaru :
I got shot down trying to PM at Dell and Amzn. Do you know if there are any websites that PM to Woot?
I tried Target. No go.
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FeiyeungSFeb 04, 2022 06:10 PM
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Samsung website doesn't mention eARC, so i can only assume it doesn't have it. IMO Atmos soundbar without eARC is equivlent to having no Atmos.
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WARHAWKSSFeb 04, 2022 06:12 PM
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Quote from FeiyeungS :
Samsung website doesn't mention eARC, so i can only assume it doesn't have it. IMO Atmos soundbar without eARC is equivlent to having no Atmos.
Yep no eARC. Kind of bs at this pricepoint. I find it interesting that it has a Q-Symphony feature, that uses your Samsung TV speakers to enhance the audio. I ordered The Frame Tv would love to know if its not just a gimmick. Also with no eARC, would my Tv remote operate the audio on the soundbar. Decisions..decisions.
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Mr_SadnessFeb 04, 2022 06:41 PM
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Rtings rated the cheaper HW-Q600A higher than the more expensive HW-Q700A.

https://www.rtings.com/soundbar/t...3585/23516
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Feb 04, 2022 06:53 PM
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jmunjrFeb 04, 2022 06:53 PM
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Quote from FeiyeungS :
Samsung website doesn't mention eARC, so i can only assume it doesn't have it. IMO Atmos soundbar without eARC is equivlent to having no Atmos.
eARC isn't necessarily needed for Atmos, as it depends on the source audio. You need eARC for TrueHD but not for Dolby Digital Plus, both of which can do Atmos, the latter having a lot of compression.
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yagruFeb 04, 2022 07:15 PM
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Quote from Mr_Sadness :
Rtings rated the cheaper HW-Q600A higher than the more expensive HW-Q700A.

https://www.rtings.com/soundbar/t...3585/23516
I have the 600 and wouldnt really recommend it. I paid about 250 for a new open box at best buy.. The sound is not very good.. I wish i had paid more for the 700 which has better components.
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getafixdruidFeb 04, 2022 07:21 PM
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What is the return policy on electronics at Woot?
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leeterbikeFeb 04, 2022 07:42 PM
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The m series 5.1.2 vizio setup is a much better value and performance.
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ShetBoyardeeFeb 04, 2022 07:45 PM
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Is this an insane deal?
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RainieDaysFeb 04, 2022 07:49 PM
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I did a lot of research on Samsung soundbars over the holiday season and the 600A allegedly has terrible bass; would hold off for the 800A

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