Coming here to ask this and you already answered. That was going to be my guess. My wife is getting into RE photos and this seems like a perfect addition to get started.
Kenny Rockwell seems to have loved the earlier version of this lens.
Just also came here to say that Ken Rockwell has been around for a long time and his opinions should be taken with a grain of salt. There are several other objective ways to evaluate lenses since he started decades ago.
I have an old D7100 DX I recently started using again with trusty 35mm 1.8 as a webcam. Quality is amazing (and overkill). I have a small room so I'm thinking of picking this up for a wider FOV. Keep it at 16m and 2.8 for a nice bokeh.
Can you explain what you mean when you say "I would not recommend a crop sensor camera for real estate photos. it makes cramped interiors very difficult." Are you referring to the crop factor making this lens behave like a 16 - 24 mm lens? Are there other reasons for avoiding CF cameras for RE.
Using a lens especially made for apsc can cause vignetting. Using a crop sensor has a magnification factor when compared to full frame. That said, 11mm on a crop sensor is more than enough to sit at the edge of the room and get a good shot; but of course, a full frame would arguably be wider and less distortion.
To the untrained eye, it really isn't that big of a deal. You'll come to find that a lot of the "differences" when comparing lenses and camera systems is nitpicking and pixel peeping. However you should definitely spend time at least identifying the fundamental differences.
Can you explain what you mean when you say "I would not recommend a crop sensor camera for real estate photos. it makes cramped interiors very difficult." Are you referring to the crop factor making this lens behave like a 16 - 24 mm lens? Are there other reasons for avoiding CF cameras for RE.
I disagree with that take. Crop sensors obviously crop in so this behaves more like a 16-24mm FF equivalent to your point. That is still pretty dang wide and great for situations where you want wide angles like landscape and real estate. A full frame equivalent wide angle is much more expensive of a lens, let alone the cost factor of getting a full frame camera if you don't got one.
This will fit most peoples wide angle needs just fine. Unless you have specific low light needs or really need a wider angle than this offers, save your money, crop cameras and lens are great.
For reference, I'm a landscape photographer who shoots FF and used to have various APS-C cameras.
I disagree with that take. Crop sensors obviously crop in so this behaves more like a 16-24mm FF equivalent to your point. That is still pretty dang wide and great for situations where you want wide angles like landscape and real estate. A full frame equivalent wide angle is much more expensive of a lens, let alone the cost factor of getting a full frame camera if you don't got one.
This will fit most peoples wide angle needs just fine. Unless you have specific low light needs or really need a wider angle than this offers, save your money, crop cameras and lens are great.
For reference, I'm a landscape photographer who shoots FF and used to have various APS-C cameras.
I agree. Been shooting RE listings for a years. Started with a crop sensor, still using a crop sensor.
Like I said before, the 11-16 is great lens but I'm using a 10-20 Sigma. Aperture isn't as good. 10-20 is more coverage though. You can find them at keh and others below $200. I like this lens for RE.
Not for a full-frame sensor so pass. I am so glad that I bought my Canon 6D FF DSLR back in 2015 and never looked back.
Same! I've been rocking the 6D for a long time now. I'd like to upgrade, but it seems like so much money. And I realize my 24-70 and 100-400 Ls work with the an adapter, but I'd probably want to change those as well - and that's just a lot.
can someone suggest the cheapest possible combo for body/lens for wild photography ( even used/ebay etcc...)
Canon 80D and Sigma 150-600mm Contemporary. Canon can be found refurbished from Canon website with 1 year warranty. Sigma lens is usually $899, but goes as low as $625 for brand new. Search here on Slickdeals for past deals.
Would love to know the answer to this as well. I have the canon on an SL2 and 80d. What will this Jens here do for me with regards to RE photography??
They're pretty much on par for RE and Landscape. The main reason to pick the Tokina over Canon is for indoor close-quarters portraits (my primary use case). The main reason to pick the Canon over Tokina is for vlogging (silent, fast AF and IS).
I really don't understand the hate for aps-c. Plenty of pixels these days, has been for a while. Yes the 1.5 multiplier takes my 10mm - 20mm lense up to a 15mm - 39mm effective. I play with a Bikon d3500 and their new inexpensive lens. I really enjoy using it for unusual closeups, and the occasional landscape pic. If you know your equipment, the shot you want, and can plan out the shot most modern equipment is up to the task.
Using a high end camera with a fancy lens and then pointing and holding down the shutter button for burst shots is more like playing call of duty with an automatic weapon less like photography. Photography is more like sharpshooter and sniping. A deliberate plan of action for a certain result, not spray and pray. A photographer with the ability to only take 36 images at a football game will usually be thinking of where to be, the light angles, and other important things before the game starts to give the best outcome possible with limited resources.
It is harder to not get a few good shots with digital, auto bracketing, crazy zoom lenses, large power packs and in essence nearly unlimited film. I believe there are reasonable odds that a good and experienced photographer can do as well or better with a middle of the road film camera and 1 36 exposure roll of film than a bunch of people that believe themselves to be good photographers because they have modern tools.
It's not the tool that has talent it is the user. Buy the tools you want and can afford, but if you can't seem to get the shots you want, consider what you know about photography and evaluate your skills.
Well I seem to be tired. I had meant to say I like my apsc gear, I can afford it and it has more options than I'll use most of the time.
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Kenny Rockwell seems to have loved the earlier version of this lens.
Just also came here to say that Ken Rockwell has been around for a long time and his opinions should be taken with a grain of salt. There are several other objective ways to evaluate lenses since he started decades ago.
Still trying to justify the orice
Using a lens especially made for apsc can cause vignetting. Using a crop sensor has a magnification factor when compared to full frame. That said, 11mm on a crop sensor is more than enough to sit at the edge of the room and get a good shot; but of course, a full frame would arguably be wider and less distortion.
To the untrained eye, it really isn't that big of a deal. You'll come to find that a lot of the "differences" when comparing lenses and camera systems is nitpicking and pixel peeping. However you should definitely spend time at least identifying the fundamental differences.
I disagree with that take. Crop sensors obviously crop in so this behaves more like a 16-24mm FF equivalent to your point. That is still pretty dang wide and great for situations where you want wide angles like landscape and real estate. A full frame equivalent wide angle is much more expensive of a lens, let alone the cost factor of getting a full frame camera if you don't got one.
This will fit most peoples wide angle needs just fine. Unless you have specific low light needs or really need a wider angle than this offers, save your money, crop cameras and lens are great.
For reference, I'm a landscape photographer who shoots FF and used to have various APS-C cameras.
This will fit most peoples wide angle needs just fine. Unless you have specific low light needs or really need a wider angle than this offers, save your money, crop cameras and lens are great.
For reference, I'm a landscape photographer who shoots FF and used to have various APS-C cameras.
I agree. Been shooting RE listings for a years. Started with a crop sensor, still using a crop sensor.
Like I said before, the 11-16 is great lens but I'm using a 10-20 Sigma. Aperture isn't as good. 10-20 is more coverage though. You can find them at keh and others below $200. I like this lens for RE.
How does this compare to the Canon 10-18mm? I'm interested primarily in casual landscape photography.
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How does this compare to the Canon 10-18mm? I'm interested primarily in casual landscape photography.
Would love to know the answer to this as well. I have the canon on an SL2 and 80d. What will this Jens here do for me with regards to RE photography??
They're pretty much on par for RE and Landscape. The main reason to pick the Tokina over Canon is for indoor close-quarters portraits (my primary use case). The main reason to pick the Canon over Tokina is for vlogging (silent, fast AF and IS).
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Using a high end camera with a fancy lens and then pointing and holding down the shutter button for burst shots is more like playing call of duty with an automatic weapon less like photography. Photography is more like sharpshooter and sniping. A deliberate plan of action for a certain result, not spray and pray. A photographer with the ability to only take 36 images at a football game will usually be thinking of where to be, the light angles, and other important things before the game starts to give the best outcome possible with limited resources.
It is harder to not get a few good shots with digital, auto bracketing, crazy zoom lenses, large power packs and in essence nearly unlimited film. I believe there are reasonable odds that a good and experienced photographer can do as well or better with a middle of the road film camera and 1 36 exposure roll of film than a bunch of people that believe themselves to be good photographers because they have modern tools.
It's not the tool that has talent it is the user. Buy the tools you want and can afford, but if you can't seem to get the shots you want, consider what you know about photography and evaluate your skills.
Well I seem to be tired. I had meant to say I like my apsc gear, I can afford it and it has more options than I'll use most of the time.
Cheers!