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Edited March 28, 2022
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Various Utility Companies [emerson.com] offers to current
Account Holders: Sensi Smart Wi-Fi Thermostat (various) in select states for sale prices as listed below + Additional Rebate w/ Select Utility Companies. Shipping may vary by location and provider.
Offer Notes:
- Rebate amounts vary depending on the utility provider.
- The utilities listed offer an instant rebate via an online marketplace, but your utility may offer a traditional rebate. To find traditional rebates, Click Here [emerson.com], scroll to the bottom of the listings, then click the button under the header that says "Don't see your utility?"
- Some discounts may require enrollment into energy savings programs. These programs are designed to help ease demand on the electric grid by allowing the utility to make slight adjustments to your thermostat on select days during the year. Program specifics vary, but you are always able to override any thermostat changes.
- No c-wire is necessary and no professional installation required for the ST55U model.
Example Participating Locations/ Services (prices below after rebate):
- Arizona
- California
- Colorado
- Connecticut
- Delaware
- Georgia
- Idaho
- Illinois
- Indiana
- Iowa
- Kentucky
- Louisiana
- Maryland
- Massachusetts
- Michigan
- Minnesota
- Mississippi
- Missouri
- New Hampshire
- New Jersey
- New Mexico
- New York
- North Carolina
- North Dakota
- Ohio
- Oklahoma
- Pennsylvania
- Rhode Island
- South Carolina
- South Dakota
- Texas
- Virginia
- Washington
- WisconsinFocus On Energy [focusonenergymarketplace.com] $54 - expired
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I personally installed four of these in my son's home alone three years ago, at least 2-3 of which were without a c wire. At the time I spoke to the Emerson Electric (mfr of Sensi brand and coincidentally local to where I live) technical support staff about their claim to not need a c wire (lots of other sellers claim no need but fail to point out that this means their devices rely on batteries which obviously die and usually at in opportune times). The technician's explanation was what I used in my post. It makes sense and I've read it online in other places confirming this. The units still work now and there's no way the batteries would have lasted that long.
Now that I've told you what I've actually done and my research with multiple sources, it's your turn to share with us. Have you installed one or more of these exact units? Did you call the manufacturer? Or do you just feel superior making negative comments? This forum is about sharing and helping others.
BTW, for anyone considering spending extra to get the color LCD version, be advised that model does indeed require the c wire. The one in the original post is monochromatic and it's simpler needs allows it to be operated without the c wire. If you wish to confirm, suggest calling the tech line. When I did, the wait time was almost non-existent, there was no labyrinth of menus to navigate, the technician was quite skilled, and their voice was easily understood. This was pre-pandemic but I hope that hasn't changed. The experience left me glad that I bought their product, which incidentally was not free at the time.
Since you were not on my phone call with technician, it's impossible for you to assume I misunderstood anything. Have you actually spoken to their technical support staff?
If you read my other post, you would see and read the documentation and the manufacturer link to it. Take the time to do so before making snarky comments. You should also reread your own quote and notice the operative word "backup". The batteries provide just the power to retain the settings.
Had you taken the time to read and understand the documentation, you'd understand that although you have a c wire and for some reason chose not wire the thermostat with it, you'd realize that your thermostat is being powered as I described and not by your batteries. If you don't believe that, remove them altogether and see that the device still operates consistent with what the manufacturer designed using the low voltage wiring.
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i'd rather have control of what I use and not use... not them. also, i have solar so if i don't use energy generate, its sold back to them at cheapest rate anyway...
this is absolutely NOT FREE!
Thanks, needed a good laugh first thing in the morning!!
I currently have a digital (not wifi) Luxpro that has heat/off and fan/on/auto controls
It's never on any of these lists is it florida blows for energy improvements, fpl can suck my kW/h clock.
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i'd rather have control of what I use and not use... not them. also, i have solar so if i don't use energy generate, its sold back to them at cheapest rate anyway...
this is absolutely NOT FREE!
Must depend on utility. I have (2) ST75 that have the ability to be enrolled in such a service but it's totally optional. Eversource (power co) calls it "connected solutions". I'll get a notification sometime early in the day that they need to up the tstat setpoints in the afternoon/eve (perhaps 6 or 8 degrees). I can always override it. For my trouble they give me a $20 Amazon GC/tstat/year. Can unenroll at any time.
Do you think this would work?
I currently have a digital (not wifi) Luxpro that has heat/off and fan/on/auto controls
I would say the Nest is better... BUT, what is so special about this Sensi is that it does not need a C-wire (the wire that provides power). Some older systems and many heat only systems may not have a C-wire. And I am in that boat, I have three zones (only forced hot water heating system done with natural gas) and each thermostat only has two wires.
This is also for a rental and we pay all utilities.
I would say the Nest is better... BUT, what is so special about this Sensi is that it does not need a C-wire (the wire that provides power). Some older systems and many heat only systems may not have a C-wire. And I am in that boat, I have three zones (only forced hot water heating system done with natural gas) and each thermostat only has two wires.
This is also for a rental and we pay all utilities.