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expiredLibertarian posted Apr 29, 2022 2:05 AM

US Treasury Series I Savings Bonds Inflation Rate Earnings (May - October '22)

9.62% Interest (Annualized for 6 Months)

(Limit $10K/Year Per Person)
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U.S. Government Treasury is currently offering 9.62% Interest Rate (Annualized for 6 Months) in combined Fixed + Inflation Rate Earnings valid on newly issued Series I Savings Bonds purchased from May through October 2022. Limit of $10,000/year per person.

Thanks to Community Member Libertarian for posting this offer.

About this offer:
  • How do I buy a Series I bond?
  • What is a Series I bond? (source)
    • "A savings bond that earns interest based on combining a fixed rate and an inflation rate."
    • You may use Series I bonds to:
      • Save in a low-risk product that helps protect your savings from inflation
      • Supplement your retirement income
      • Give as a gift
      • Pay for education
      • Click here for more information about Series I Bonds
  • What interest does a Series I bond earn? (source)
    • A combination of a fixed rate that stays the same for the life of the bond and an inflation rate that is set twice a year.
    • An I bond earns interest monthly from the first day of the month in the issue date. The interest accrues (is added to the bond) until the bond reaches 30 years or you cash the bond, whichever comes first.
    • The interest is compounded semiannually. Every six months from the bond's issue date, interest the bond earned in the six previous months is added to the bond's principal value, creating a new principal value. Interest is then earned on the new principal.
    • The composite rate for I bonds issued from May 2022 through October 2022 is 9.62 percent. This rate applies for the first six months you own the bond.
  • When can I cash my I bonds?
    • After they are 12 months old.
    • If you cash an I bond before it is five years old, you will lose the last three months of interest.
    • I bonds earn interest for 30 years if you don't cash the bonds before they mature.
    • If you've been affected by a disaster, special provisions may apply.

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Please refer to the forum thread for additional details & discussion.

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U.S. Government Treasury is currently offering 9.62% Interest Rate (Annualized for 6 Months) in combined Fixed + Inflation Rate Earnings valid on newly issued Series I Savings Bonds purchased from May through October 2022. Limit of $10,000/year per person.

Thanks to Community Member Libertarian for posting this offer.

About this offer:
  • How do I buy a Series I bond?
  • What is a Series I bond? (source)
    • "A savings bond that earns interest based on combining a fixed rate and an inflation rate."
    • You may use Series I bonds to:
      • Save in a low-risk product that helps protect your savings from inflation
      • Supplement your retirement income
      • Give as a gift
      • Pay for education
      • Click here for more information about Series I Bonds
  • What interest does a Series I bond earn? (source)
    • A combination of a fixed rate that stays the same for the life of the bond and an inflation rate that is set twice a year.
    • An I bond earns interest monthly from the first day of the month in the issue date. The interest accrues (is added to the bond) until the bond reaches 30 years or you cash the bond, whichever comes first.
    • The interest is compounded semiannually. Every six months from the bond's issue date, interest the bond earned in the six previous months is added to the bond's principal value, creating a new principal value. Interest is then earned on the new principal.
    • The composite rate for I bonds issued from May 2022 through October 2022 is 9.62 percent. This rate applies for the first six months you own the bond.
  • When can I cash my I bonds?
    • After they are 12 months old.
    • If you cash an I bond before it is five years old, you will lose the last three months of interest.
    • I bonds earn interest for 30 years if you don't cash the bonds before they mature.
    • If you've been affected by a disaster, special provisions may apply.

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Written by StrawMan86 | Staff
Please refer to the forum thread for additional details & discussion.

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Written by Libertarian

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doboy007Apr 30, 2022 3:11 AM
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Quote from belsbbb :
I actually set the buy date for Monday May 2, instead of April 29. I guess we'll find out in 6 months if that's a good move. But over the next 30 years, I don't think it really matters.
This was not a smart move to set it purposely for May 2 (actually you couldn't buy it today anyways unless you set it up yesterday). Sure, if you hold the bond for 30 years then missing the 7.12% rate for 6 months would smooth out over the years but most aren't going to hold it that long since better opportunities may come along. So if one person buys it in April and another person buys it in May and both hold until interest is crap and sell it then the May person will more or less lose out on 6 months of 7.12% interest, not counting the penalty.
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chowar01Apr 30, 2022 4:52 AM
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Quote from ; :
This was not a smart move to set it purposely for May 2 (actually you couldn't buy it today anyways unless you set it up yesterday). Sure, if you hold the bond for 30 years then missing the 7.12% rate for 6 months would smooth out over the years but most aren't going to hold it that long since better opportunities may come along. So if one person buys it in April and another person buys it in May and both hold until interest is crap and sell it then the May person will more or less lose out on 6 months of 7.12% interest, not counting the penalty.
I don't know why that's so hard for so many here to grasp haha
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FancyKite319Apr 30, 2022 4:59 AM
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Quote from chowar01 :
I don't know why that's so hard for so many here to grasp haha
Here's a more detailed calculation if people want to dive deep. It takes 5 min to put calculations on paper vs saying "I think...".

Lets assume that you invest the $10k in April and assume 3 rate changes 7.12% (if you buy in April 2022), 9.23% (May 2022 rate change) and 12% (assume rate goes this high in Nov 2022) and then rate falls to 3% in April 2023. You will hold the bond for 21 months and give the last 3 months of 3% interest as penalty. Earnings will be total $1,539 and if you annualize that earning, in 12 months you will earn $879.15. This will net you an annualized rate of 8.7915%.

Now say you buy the same $10k of i-bonds in May and assume 2 rate changes 9.23% (May 2022 rate) and 12% (assume rate goes this high in Nov 2022) and then rate falls to 3% in April 2023. You will hold the bond for 15 months and give the last 3 months of interest as penalty. Earnings will be total $999 and if you annualize that earning, in 12 months you will earn $799. This will net you an annualized rate of 7.99%.

One can argue that you can also invest the $10799 in the 2nd scenario again for 6 months outside of i-bonds and earn additional interest but since we annualized the interest rate, investing in April netted you a higher % rate for a 12 month holding period.

If you want to look at the calculation, here's a google sheet link - https://docs.google.com/spreadshe...sp=sharing
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chowar01Apr 30, 2022 5:25 AM
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Quote from FancyKite319 :
Here's a more detailed calculation if people want to dive deep. It takes 5 min to put calculations on paper vs saying "I think...".

Lets assume that you invest the $10k in April and assume 3 rate changes 7.12% (if you buy in April 2022), 9.23% (May 2022 rate change) and 12% (assume rate goes this high in Nov 2022) and then rate falls to 3% in April 2023. You will hold the bond for 21 months and give the last 3 months of 3% interest as penalty. Earnings will be total $1,539 and if you annualize that earning, in 12 months you will earn $879.15. This will net you an annualized rate of 8.7915%.

Now say you buy the same $10k of i-bonds in May and assume 2 rate changes 9.23% (May 2022 rate) and 12% (assume rate goes this high in Nov 2022) and then rate falls to 3% in April 2023. You will hold the bond for 15 months and give the last 3 months of interest as penalty. Earnings will be total $999 and if you annualize that earning, in 12 months you will earn $799. This will net you an annualized rate of 7.99%.

One can argue that you can also invest the $10799 in the 2nd scenario again for 6 months outside of i-bonds and earn additional interest but since we annualized the interest rate, investing in April netted you a higher % rate for a 12 month holding period.

If you want to look at the calculation, here's a google sheet link - https://docs.google.com/spreadshe...sp=sharing
Nobody who understands how these work has been saying "I think…", we know it's a better return
Apr 30, 2022 5:43 AM
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Debit2CashApr 30, 2022 5:43 AM
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I think I'm just going to invest my money in the stock market. You guys are making this too confusing.
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FancyKite319Apr 30, 2022 5:49 AM
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Quote from chowar01 :
Nobody who understands how these work has been saying "I think…", we know it's a better return
I know, this was for people who are saying investing in April is not a good strategy.
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labboyproApr 30, 2022 6:01 AM
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Quote from Debit2Cash :
I think I'm just going to invest my money in the stock market. You guys are making this too confusing.
If savings bonds are too complicated, it's probably best you just burn your money in a trashcan.
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Quote from labboypro :
If savings bonds are too complicated, it's probably best you just burn your money in a trashcan.
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labxduae38Apr 30, 2022 7:52 AM
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Lol…. Get rid of that financial advisor
can't, it's an imaginary financial advisor lol
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srikyApr 30, 2022 8:48 AM
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Quote from siddartha084 :
Can we buy these while on h1b?
Yes, I don't see a reason why not? It's passive income, doesn't violate any H1B rules. Similar to investing on stocks using Robinhood or Webull. Or even your 401k which is passively invested in a target date mutual funds. You want to do this especially if you have a kid expected to go to college. Capital gains tax is waived if used for qualified educational expenses.
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acegolferApr 30, 2022 9:17 AM
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Quote from sriky :
Yes, I don't see a reason why not? It's passive income, doesn't violate any H1B rules. Similar to investing on stocks using Robinhood or Webull. Or even your 401k which is passively invested in a target date mutual funds. You want to do this especially if you have a kid expected to go to college. Capital gains tax is waived if used for qualified educational expenses.
To nitpick, i-bonds have no capital gains. It's all interest income instead.
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fatlitewalletApr 30, 2022 11:35 AM
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We bought with 7.12% in January. Can we buy this one starting May again? Is there a maximum total value of series I bond we can own ?
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ram71Apr 30, 2022 11:41 AM
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Can someone explain to the financial planning novice what difference it makes? I am not a risk-taking guy. I will not do aggressive investing. I want safe and secured government-issued bonds. What did I lose by not buying two days earlier?
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